Greetings everyone. I'm here to talk about something that I've been noticing on chat. Chat moderators have been kicking

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users for absolutely no reason because they think it's "fun". Honestly, I have to disagree with this. For one thing, it spams chat. And second, kicking is not for an enjoyable purpose. It serves as a warning to users. I honestly think this has to stop. Because it's kinda unreasonable to kick for fun. Comments? Z ^{Talk Page}

First off, kicking doesn't affect the chat in any way, shape, or form. It's not recorded. I honestly see no issue, as we've all done it. Myself included. Each of the staffers have done it, and it's a nice way to relieve stress after there have been problems. It's humorous, imho. It's not like we're clogging up anything on the wiki. And with the issues going on right now, I see this as a way to relieve the stress and give people a nice laugh. I know I only kick those who've given me permission to do so. And that screenshot isn't valid against me, because I was given permission from the user I kicked. =P —Garrus ღ  01:41,8/12/2012 

Well, in the chat rules it sates that you shouldn't ask to be kicked. It might give new users a wrong idea. It's bad for the Wiki because kicking has a purpose and it doesn't seem like you're living up to that. Z ^{Talk Page}

It is extremely misleading for other users who are new to the wiki/chat and often leads to misunderstood chat bans. I've seen it happen. Yes, the new users should probably read the rules, but it doesn't help when admins/chat mods are kicking each other without much reason...

Vio~

You're acting like we're kicking everyone and everything, Z. Honestly, we're not. Plus, I think you should gather more evidence if you actually want to put this up. No offense, but that screenshot only has me in it, and that seems like it's extremely bias against me. So, judging by this, you're saying that I'm not doing my job as a chat mod. Yeah, I kick every once in a while, but who doesn't? Are you going to sit there and tell me that I'm the only one that does? I'm not. —Garrus ღ  01:51,8/12/2012 

Honestly, I'm agreeing with Skye on this one. Mods kick because they give warnings, yes, but sometimes, they like to have a little fun. It doesn't slow down chat or anything and it's kind of entertaining. Plus, mods kick users that have been here a while. I've been kicked by Skye. Users like Skt, Elo, Starry etc are kciked for fun. If a mod kicks a new user, it's probably because she/he had three warnings and wasn't following chatroom rules. I see no problem in kicking for fun. I hope I've made my point and sorry for rambling, If I did. Shoonderp^{Like nobody’s around~} 02:02, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

And if users don't like it, I've already said multiple times, they can ask us to stop, and we will. We like to have fun, yes, and we do realize that sometimes, it can get out of hand. —Garrus ღ  02:04,8/12/2012 

Just me giving a note, because I really don't feel like getting into this much at all: the "don't ask to be kicked" rule was made before the chat was revamped, back when kicking left marks on someone's record and was more permanent, as being kicked from the chat for fun meant that the chatmod in question had to go in and undo what they did. Nowadays, kicking is something that leaves no mark and lasts only a second, long enough to eject a user from the chatroom and nothing else.

Now, on that note, chatmods, rollbacks, and admins should be better examples and show restraint. I know I've done it a couple of times and have no room to talk, but we all should be responsible with the powers entrusted to us by the public of the wiki. Randomly kicking friends out of the chatroom may be fun once in a while, but it's a bad example to set for the rest of the users in the chat. It lends to that ultimate wish to be a chatmod just "to get a banhammer" as some have called it, rather than wanting to be one simply to help out and uphold the rules of the wiki.

Yes, have fun, but be responsible. I understand your concern, Z, and I apologize for our actions distressing you in such a way. We give people the wrong impression when we do such things. This is a professional website, and there are better ways to have fun than randomly abusing our powers. Vandalizing each other's user pages for fun sits on the line of what is acceptable. Kicking people randomly goes a bit beyond the line. It's a line we need to toe carefully lest we lend to worse abuses of power.

I realize that no one has meant any harm by it and that it really has caused no true harm, but we do need to stop. Shelly _{For a limited time only} 04:34, August 12, 2012 (UTC)