well i think they should edit on the book apperances because she is in Bluestars Prophecy some one should fix it because i dont know haw and dont frget she appears in nightwhispers and sign of the moon too (i think)
In into the wild on page... 44 it says "How long will Blusetar sit with him?" Someone add that into trivia please don't know how to do it thx
None of her ceremonies are listed.Done! RiverpeltDeputy of StormClan 13:37, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
Preferably more detail for her StarClan appearances Eclipse and Long Shadows could use some expansion, especially EclipseExpanded Eclipse, but she only appeared once in Long Shadows. RiverpeltDeputy of StormClan 23:15, September 22, 2010 (UTC) Forest of Secrets and Rising Storm could be expanded.Might expand both of them a bit more soon. RiverpeltDeputy of StormClan 21:36, September 21, 2010 (UTC) Her description needs some serious citing help.
I know it's probably an idiotic question... but clean up? Isn't that a bit vague? I'd be more than happy to help, if I knew what specifically I was cleaning up. Jmiles Back, and better than ever! 05:24, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
I think it probably means just to work on the history of the article, but I really don't know. I'm going to remove it, since it's not doing any good up there. WhiteStorm is back! 19:04, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
Wouldnt Firestar be Bluestars sucsessor, not Redtail? just asking here if it would be a good idea to change it change it or not Stormstar 2015 04:01, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
Oh Yeah, thanks XD Stormstar 2015 16:49, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
Is it my PC or is her deputy image a little purple?Mossstar101 12:23, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
I guess it is, but I think it's just supposed to be blue, since that is the color of her fur. --Icefeather 126.96.36.199 22:13, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
Okay, Bluestar was mate to Oakheart and had three kits. Stonefur Mistystar and Mosskit. Is Mosskit a male or female? And how did he/she die?? Mapleleaf.She died In Bluestar's Prophecy.It happened when Bluestar [Then Bluefur] was giving Stonefur [Then Stonekit],Mistystar [Then Mistykit].and Mosskit to Oakheart.She had to give them up because she couldn't let Thistleclaw become the deputy of Sunstar.Because after he died 'Thistlestar' would probably kill the whole clan by leading them into unnesscary bloodshed.So Bluestar [then Bluefur] faked that her kits got stolen by a fox and later became deputy and eventually became leader and chose Redtail to become deputy after Thistleclaw and a few others died in 'so many familiar faces gone'.Oh'and P.S. Mosskit is a girl I'm 99.9% sure.Silverstar Leader of Tigerclan.
On her kit pixel its blue-gray, app. blue-gray, warrior is blue, deputy is pinkish, and leader is blue-gray. Someone should fix warrior and deputy....
Wait...Charart graded her gold???? Her charart is slightly messed up, like I said.
Her warrior image was nominated for tweak week. Her deputy is looks fine, even if it doesn't match. And they get a gold charat grade if they have all their chararts, not the quality or consistency of them. --Gοlδεnρεlτ Tensou! 03:24, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
I just noticed none of her other sprites have a sliver-tipped tail, or the gash on her shoulder. Should that be added? CinderLion 15:49, July 31, 2010 (UTC)CinderLion
Anyone noticed that the warrior pic is darker than the others? Skyflight 16:57, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
I know it says in Bluestar's prophecy that she has a long sleek tail, but I don't think that should be there because that was when she was a kit, and it's pretty obvious she meant sleek for a kit because she was older and young kits have fluffy fur. In comparison, but she still has long fur. Mossy ♫ go away. 20:09, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
Also, someone removed the sources on her eye colour, thick fur (I found sources for these, those, so I put them back) and completely took off the silver-tipped tail. Gee. Mossy ♫ go away. 20:10, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
I was going to put this trivia up but wanted to know what people thought of it:
In Into the Wild, Graystripe mentions Bluestar only mentors deputy's kits, but how could he know this unless Bluestar had another deputy or Redtail had other kits?
Actually, both of you are just a tad off. Graypaw really said Firepaw was lucky to be her apprentice because leaders usually only mentored the kits of deputies, not that Bluestar did.Emberstarfireclan 15:31, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Im new but i think if she gives up her kits to BECOME depute that should be put in trivia.
Well, it's states it throughout BP. So We don't need to. And sign with 4~ Seafang 19:47, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
What's with the quote at the beginning? It looks good, but is it supposed to be there? Aspenheart 15:57, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, Frostheart, I was just wondering. If I was adding one to a page, what quote should I put there? Any one I think is important? Or is there a special one I should put there? Aspenheart 22:50, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
Do i have to point out again that thick fur is not the same as long fur? It never actually said she had long fur, just thick...Emberstarfireclan 12:43, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
Charat dead/alive Edit
It says on her charat box that she was alive in Starlight, and dead in Twilight. She died in The Darkest Hour, right? Needs to be fixed. - Ginger Loves Silver! HAPPY VALENTINES DAY! 19:05, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
The deadbooks are not about which book they died in, nor is it about seeing a dead body. It is about seeing them postdeath (StarClan, Dark Forest, ect). So the charcat is fine. oblivionAudience? 22:33, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
In Bluestar's prophect it keeps saying she has short legs
She had short legs when she was an apprentice, meaning her legs were shorter than the other apprentices - who were also older than her. Moonflower said they'd grow, and, judging by the fact that it isn't mentioned after she's made a warrior, they did. So no, I'd say don't add it in. oblivionAudience? 21:56, November 15, 2010 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure she died in A Dangerous Path.
Brightheart mentioned her before daisy's first kit's warrior ceremony in Outcast.
Do we really need a section for Sign of the Moon? Cause if she's not mentioned, then she's not mentioned and that's that. You don't see a section for Twilight on Cloudstar's page, do you? Trickstar TrickorTreat!!! 23:45, April 29, 2011 (UTC)
Former mate? Edit
I have a question: Did Bluestar and Oakheart become mates again in StarClan or did they remain former mates? Romance Girl 06:25, July 11, 2011 (UTC)Romance Girl
Good question! Cherrynose
Addition to trivia? Edit
I'm reading Bluestar's Prophecy and on page 276 it say's this;
Sunfall's mew snapped Bluefur from her thoughts.
"You'll patrol the RiverClan border with Thrushpelt, Tawnyspots, Sparrowpelt, and Windflight."
Should someone put that she was mistakenly called Snowfur into her trivia? Seafang 18:55, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
Wait, what if Sunfall calling Snowfur is what alerted Bluefur?188.8.131.52Stormcast180
Ok, here I am again talking about mates and stuff. But I've noticed twice, both in Bluestar's Prophecy and Forest of Secrets that she mentioned that she and Oakheart were no longer mates. "She looked at her former mate" and "We were not mates for long" lead me to believe that they should be listed as former mates. I feel they may be friends in StarClan, but they did not remain mates throughout their lives and cats cannot "mate" in StarClan. Also, if you still wanted to call them mates afterwards, after a cat dies they are listed as former mates, such as Mudfur and Brightsky. Thanks for reading this. Yo! 03:40, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
This is kind of unrelated, but Mudfur and Brightsky should not be listed as former mates, nor should any other cats whose mates have died. Just because they're dead doesn't mean they stop loving each other. oblivionAudience? 03:41, January 4, 2012 (UTC)
Wouldn't she be an elder?(Before she died) PurpleCupcake06 22:28, July 1, 2012 (UTC)
In the end it said that she is very old so maybe it should be? -Cherrynose
- No. As Atelda has said, she was never listed as an elder. Therefore, she does not get listed as one. She was a leader up until she died. Old or not, that does not mean she gets listed as an elder. —Garrus ღ 22:27, 2/5/2013
LOL she is mistaken so many times in char pics. I should talk about this to the Erins...
184.108.40.206 15:37, July 22, 2012 (UTC)sharpheart4
First, talk about this with PCA. Second, look at the captions of the charats. If it says Alternate, that means it's just a charat describing a way she looked accidentally in one of the books. Frogpath, July 22, 2102
Why do people keep saying she drowned? She didn't. If you guys re-read what happened, it wasn't just the water that killed her. To say she drowned is an assumption, because there were also multiple other factors that played a major part in her death, including old age, the dogs, and the pressure of the water itself. She fell off a cliff, for StarClan's sake. I don't think her death should say "drowned", because that's clearly not what happened. Read the prologue of Bluestar's Prophecy again. If she drowned, would she have been able to speak or anything because of the water in her lungs? I don't think so. If her mind had been deprived of blood for too long and she died because of that, she wouldn't have been able to speak, let alone apologize to her kits. —Garrus ღ 16:52,8/27/2012
UPSET ABOUT TIGERSTAR MUCH??????? Edit
UPSET ABOUT TIGERSTAR MUCH????
Why did she act so disappointed about Tigerstar? I KNOW I lost all my respect for Bluestar after Forest Of Secrets. She needs to suck it up.
Poor Firestar only tried to be a good deputy and help Bluestar but would almost get his ears shredded every time!
I'm glad Bluestar is dead. She only made Thunderclan a tragic place in her leadership.
Firestar was the best leader ever.
Oh why did he have to die? :'(
This is not the place to discuss your thoughts on the character, only to help improve her page. Please take your thoughts into an appropriate forum or blog, please and thank you :) Yo! 22:42, October 4, 2012 (UTC)
Cause of death?? Edit
I'm not sure if the person was lazy, or just did'nt know, but "killed by water" does not describe how she died.
did she drown?
did she suffer from hyperthermia?
was the force of impact when she hit the water so dramatic that she died?
this question has long since bugged me over the years. Has Erin Hunter clarified it? Or does nobody know the answer?
Thankyou for your time.
05:25, November 6, 2012 (UTC)
If you guys want to go the multiple factors route here and get into technicalities, we might as well list that for every cat that died ever. Mousefur didn't just die of her wounds. Technically she also died because she was old. Swiftpaw wasn't just killed by dogs. He died because of his own pride, because of blood-loss, and because of trauma caused by his wounds.
Look at it this way: a person that's shot int he brain isn't technically just killed because a bullet went through their brain. You could also say depression killed them if it was suicide, you could say it was neural damage caused by the bullet, you could say it was very sudden loss of senses caused by a severance of the brain and the spine. But in the end the most immediate thing you can say about cause of death is "bullet to the brain."
Same goes for Bluestar. The only thing we can say is that she drowned because, even though many factors attributed to her death, drowning is the heaviest factor that contributed to her final death. Prove me wrong. She went under water and took water into her lungs. Even if she did not immediately die underwater, this is the cause of death. This is the definition of drowning. She drowned. Why is there even anything to argue about here? 220.127.116.11 15:43, November 7, 2012 (UTC) (shelly signed out)
So because it's the heaviest factor in her death, that's the one we have to put? Huh, go figure. And how do /you/ know it's the final cause? She could have already been dying as she plunged off the cliff. Maybe her entire body started to shut down from the impact. We don't know. To say that her cause of death is drowning is /not/ accurate.
Cloudy, you're splitting hairs here. If you want to go the multiple factors route with Bluestar, you must do so with every cat. She drowned and that killed her. This is something we know, even if there were other factors that contributed to it.
Page six of Bluestar's Prophecy. "As she coughed, water bubbled at her lips, but she forced herself to keep going." (even though cats don't have lips)
This proves pretty definitively that she had water in her lungs. And the description of her battle underwater is enough to convince me that it wasn't the impact that killed her. In any case, she fell into churning water. Impact from churning water is very low. If she'd fallen into calm waters, maybe the impact would have killed her.
Unless you want to start listing "multiple factors" for every cat, because multiple factors contribute to every death ever in history, you can't just split hairs on Bluestar. 18.104.22.168 16:18, November 7, 2012 (UTC) (shelly)
And if it's the one that finished her off, then yes, we should list it. Drowning's the one thing we know for certain contributed to her death. Everything else is assumption. We don't know she died of age, depression, exhaustion, or impact. We know she drowned. Why on Earth wouldn't we use that? 22.214.171.124 16:19, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
We pride ourselves on having accurate information; how is this any different? We should be as accurate as we can be with a character's death. I'm not saying that the impact is what killed her, but, it may have played a role in it. But we shouldn't just list the largest factor, /if/ it even is. We're assuming by saying that drowning is her final cause. (not that I don't believe it, but, for argument's sake) The impact, stress, exhaustion, ect, could have played a part, since she was already unwell before the incident.
This is what talk pages are for; to discuss things. If it means "splitting hairs" to come to a conclusion, that's my right.
No, it's the same case, Cloudy. Everyone dies of multiple causes. And yes we pride ourselves in accurate information. So we should list the one thing we know about how she died: she drowned. You admit it yourself, she did. the things you list off are assumptions we have no way of knowing. We can make a trivia statement about those things if you believe it to be relevant, but in the end we should be listing the one thing we really know, the fact that she drowned. This is as accurate as we can be. Listing "multiple factors" is the assumption, not the drowning. We don't know that those factors contributed to her death. We do know she drowned and died on the banks of the river with water coming from her lungs and unable to catch her breath because that's what happens when you have fluid in your lungs. 126.96.36.199 16:41, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
I think a trivia statement would suffice, as long as it's mentioned the possibility of other factors playing a role in her death. (and as a random note, I always thought you couldn't speak if you have water in your lungs? That's what threw me off. o.O) —Garrus ღ 16:56, 11/7/2012
You can, actually. I'm reading a book right now about a girl with thyroid cancer, which causes you to drown on dry land, basically, and she recounts an instance in which she was dying but was saved. She was able to speak, though barely, as she died. As long as there's still a little air in your lungs, you can muster a few words. And I'm fine with the trivia statement. But her charcat should list drowning, maybe with a [see note] that links to the trivia if you want. 188.8.131.52 17:00, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry if I'm making a big deal out of a tiny thing. But I was wondering if Bluestar is mentally unstable. I added that she was mentally unstable to her article, because as far as I know, mentally unstable means incapable of making sane desicions and/or depressed. To me, this seems to describe Bluestar, but I might be wrong, my edit was undone later. I am not by any means saying this was wrong. But can someone please clear up what mentally unstable means? And does that apply to Bluestar? (Sorry, it's been a while since I read Warriors, and I made a few careless edits. I'll make sure to double-check in the books.) Flightsky (talk) 13:43, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
It says in Bluestar's Prophecy that she had 2 lives left, though she lost 3 in the original series. Can you put that in trivia? ~SparkyWhisker4~ The flow of life... where is that? 21:03, December 16, 2012 (UTC)
New main quote Edit
I think I've found a really great quote we could put as Bluestar's main quote. I don't have TLH, but in one of the last paragraphs of the prologues, she hisses, when the others cats there are saying how they will protect their Clan, "And I will die a tenth time to save ThunderClan!" Or somewhere around that. One sec, I'll grab my nook which has a sample... I think pg. 6/7 and the exact sentence is... "Bluestar thrashed her tail. 'And I will die a tenth time to defend ThunderClan!" StarClan, I love that quote :3 So, what do you guys think? Spottedpool AutumnClan (talk) 02:54, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
Mistyfoot/star briefly mentioned in the novella that Bluestar that she was unaware of Oakheart being her father until her (Bluestar's) death. Please add to the respective section, thanks. Maplewing 20:07, January 19, 2013 (UTC)
I clicked on the see note next to where it said that she drowned, but it didn't lead to anything. Can someone fix this? I'd do it myself, but I don't know how.Amberflower (talk) 18:41, January 27, 2013 (UTC)Amberflower of WindClan