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Does the Cinderpaw in Sunset and The Sight count as Cinderpelt?[]

Does the resurrection of Cinderpelt in Cinderpaw for Sunset and The Sight count as the Cinderpelt covered in this article? I am curious and would like to know. Adress comments here or on my talk page.Hobbes15(Tiger Headquarters) 18:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

At this point, I'm inclined to address them as two separate characters. Even though the idea that she's been resurrected is rather clearly stated, I've seen nothing so far that indicates that they should be treated as if they were a single character. They seem very much to be two separate entities. Kitsufox 00:58, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
So far, you seem to be right, but we might want to wait until later books come out to be sure. Hobbes15(Tiger Headquarters) 17:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I have to agree with Hobbes, Kitsu. I have a sneaking suspicion that the fall Cinderpaw sustains in the excerpt from Dark River at the end of The Sight will end Cinderpaw with the same leg injury that Cinderpelt suffered at the Thunderpath in Fire and Ice. If that assumption is correct, then it's clear that the authors intend Cinderpaw to be a pure reincarnation of Cinderpelt, and therefore, the same cat. But who knows at this point? Gorse 15:36, 20 May 2007 (CST)
Even if they do intend a strait reincarnation where history repeats itself, I think we should have, at least for the time being, wait and make changes later if it's needed. I'd hate to be storing them on the same page and then have to try and sort it out later. Merging two pages (IE: just changing appearance lists and copy/pasting history to the correct place) would be way easier. So... fly with "Two Separate Entities" for the time being, with a See-also at the bottom? Kitsufox 23:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Livebooks?[]

Since Cinderpaw (P3) is the reincarnation of Cinderpelt, they're the same cat. So should we add more books to her list of livebooks? Eulalia459678(Salamandastron) 01:33, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

No, because they're still somewhat different. GB57 15:25, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Cinderpelt has another chance[]

Yay! Though it seems even after she was told in sunset that cinderpelt was alive again, she seems to not remember in The Sight. She still calls for Cinderpelt in StarClan. BUT SHE DIES THOUGH

Cinderpaw/Cinderpelt[]

I don't think so, since Cinderpaw doesn't know it. It would also confuse readers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amberleaf (talkcontribs) 15:01 May 3 2008

Dead books?[]

Since we mainly post what books the cat appeared in when dead, should all the books be listed after her death like there is now? I don't really agree with this since Cinderpelt hasn't made many appearances since Dark River I believe. After all, Cinderheart is Cinderpelts reincarnation. -- Shim-ShimShimmering Crystals 01:10, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

weird[]

Don't Cinderheart and Cinderpelt look the same? Shouldn't their pelt look the same and all? Because Cinderpelt's is really dark, and Cinderheart's is really bright. You know?

Cinderheart a gray tabby she-cat, Cinderpelt is a dark gray she-cat-- meaning they shouldn't look the same --♫Sorrie♫Lakeclan and Skyclan Deputy♫ 13:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC) Why is it that when cinderpaw falls from the tree her LEG gets broken!? its like the real cinderpelt! except cindrtpelts was worse, but she still had a hard time walking. Why did cinderpaw have to get hurt? ♥Shinestar♥

Maybe it happened since she is a reincarnation of Cinderpelt. Or maybe the Erins just thought it would make a good story--Nightfall101 02:34, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

Intro[]

There's spoilers in the spoiler-free intro. I feel that the part about her leg is a spoiler because someone who's just started the second book wouldn't know that Cinderpaw(pelt) is going to have an accident with a Twoleg monster. Should I remove it? --Sparrowsong 20:19, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Charart?[]

I thought it was her hind leg that was deformed. I have a reference: page 177 in Fire and Ice. "One of her hind legs was twisted and glistening with blood." But in her picture, it has the foreleg deformed. Shouldn't we change that? --Rainwhisker09 14:23, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

This was brought up when her charart was made - I think they agreed that it would be hard to do a hind leg, or something of the sort. Basically, this was known, but purposely not done, for a reason I can't recall.--Quiet!... 03:15, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Why must it be Cinderpelt?![]

I know that it's great Cinderpelt has a second chance, but the downsides are: 1. Cinderheart will never be the same. 2. Leafpool won't share dreams with her. 3. When Leafpool's time come, she'll never be reunited with her in StarClan.--173.76.249.224 23:42, September 22, 2009 (UTC)


I think that when Cinderheart dies, she will be Cinderpelt in StarClan--Nightfall101 01:58, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

CinderXFire[]

In a chat with Erin Hunter, it was revealed by them that Cinderpelt always loved Firestar. That is why she was so hostile to Sandstorm in the first series. It's also the reason why, in "Twilight", she attacked Leafpool when Leafpool said she didn't know how love felt. She was always meant for Firestar, not Sandstorm. --173.76.249.224 20:53, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Says who? Where does it say that?--Dragonfrost 14:39, November 5, 2009 (UTC)


When was she ever hostile to Sandstorm? They were friends! By the way.. SANDXFIRE!!!--Nightfall101 05:17, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Fireheart felt a tension between them. Though they never said it out loud, she clearly loved Fireheart. CINDERXFIRE DUSTXSAND! -Tsukaiz


Yeah, I remember that from "Dangerous path" FIREXSAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Nightfall101 21:43, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Tsukaiz are you the IP?  Brambleclaw14 Talk 14:42, November 5, 2009 (UTC)


What does IP stand for?--Nightfall101 02:04, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Wait, so cinderpelt loves her mentor/future leader? What is she told him? does he feel the same? Does he ALWAYS have a thing for medicine cats? spottedleaf-duh yellowfang-closest friend cinderpelt-as i just stated leafpool-daughter jayfeather-kinda a tom but still kin. --♥Shinestar♥ 23:25, November 7, 2009 (UTC)

No, Firestar never loved Cinderpelt. If he felt the same, don't you think it would have said so somewhere?--Dragonfrost 19:47, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


Okay... WHAT!? I had no idea that Cinderpelt liked Firestar. GO FIREXSAND!!!!--74.107.120.99 02:24, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Kit Charart[]

We need a kit picture. --Aurorablaze 21:26, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I've just joined charart and I could do it if somebody else isn't already working on it--Nightfall101 21:44, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Apprentice picture[]

Why is her apprentice picture all blury? Has it been aproved yet?--Nightfall101 03:32, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Oh.. thank you for finding that. One of our PCA apprentice accidently uploaded a practice picture over the approved charart. It's been fixed. --Bramble-san 03:43, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


Content Drive- Started 2.9.10[]

  • Why doesn't it mention her twisted leg? Moonecho752 (talk) 23:34, September 15, 2016 (UTC)
Kate revealed that when she went to StarClan her leg was repaired, so we don't have it on there now that it's healed. spooky is that... a furry cat?!? 23:39, 9/15/2016
  • Needs history expanded for most of The New Prophecy books and generally cleaned up Cleaned up and expanded history for all books, but some TNP sections are still lacking in detail, if someone could help expand insaneular Talk 21:18, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
  • Needs Family Cited Done. MaplefernMay StarClan light your pathHow's the Prey running? 00:01, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
  • Needs Leafpool as apprentice Cited Done. Batwing 22:21, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
  • Look for some quotes to add A couple more could be added if they are good, but no explicit need for them insaneular Talk 21:18, March 16, 2010 (UTC)
  • Firestar's Quest and Moonrise sections need to be summarized for better flow and clarity, Firestar's Quest could alse be expanded. Done. SquirrelFlame29 Defying the Darkness 16:42, June 10, 2011 (UTC)
(She didn't do that much in FQ, I think it's fine the way it is) ANDYSCHLECKMouseh is now obsessed! 18:08, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
You're right Mousetalon, I did a quick read-through of FQ and she didn't do all that much. They could both still be shortened though. WhiteStorm is back! 18:28, August 3, 2010 (UTC
Ill get on it right now if you wantGoldenstripe 10:53, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

father?[]

Who is Cinderpelt, Brackenfur, Brightheart, and Thornclaw's father?

It was never comfirmed, we've just had to guess. Personally, I think it may be Lionheart, because of Brackenfur and Thornclaw's pelt color. And Brightheart could be white from her mother Frostfur, and the ginger splotches could be from Lionheart. And Cinderpelt's coloring could have come from Lionheart's father Smallear, who is also gray. Or it could have come from Frostfur's sister, Brindleface (who is also a gray tabby). But this is all just opinion. By the way, please sign with the four ~ --NightfallSilverpelt looks beautiful! 07:39, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it goes like this: Frostfur's mate is suspected to be Lionheart. thats why Brackenfur and Thornclaw are golden brown tabbys like Lionheart. and Brightheart gets her MAIN pelt color from her mom and the ginger patches from her paternal aunt, Goldenflower, and maternal grandmother's chest color. Cinderpelt has her paternal grandfather, Smallear and maternal aunt Brindelface's pelt color.


their eye colors are like this: Brackenfur and Thornclaw = Lionheart's eyes

Brightheart = maternal and paternal aunts eye color, Goldenflower is paternal and Brindleface is maternal

Cinderpelt = mother's eyes (Warriors13 23:37, January 15, 2010 (UTC))

Then think about their pesonalities, Brackenfur: Same color, same respectfulness, Think of it this way Brackenfur is the spitting image of Lionheart. Brightheart: Same fire, same amount of fairness and wisdom. Cinderpelt: same fierness when it comes to rights. Then Thornclaw: Same strength of Lionheart in the heat of the battle.216.248.89.31 22:47, February 20, 2011 (UTC)Silverthistle

Cinderpelt and Firestar[]

Firestar seems to have a connection to Cinderpelt, because he only tells her about his dreams. When he was just a warrior, why didn't he tell Bluestar, or when she was alive, Yellowfang? Whenever I have a dream like that, I usually tell my leader, Hawkstar. He usually knows what to do. Medicine cats are supposed to care for you, not give you advice. My medicine cat, Gustcloud, just heals my wounds. I don't understand why Firestar goes to Cinderpelt for advice, when he could've gone to Bluestar, and asked her about it. Someone reply to this if they agree.



What do you mean by "whenever I have a dream like that, I usually tell my leader, Hawkstar?" Are you referring to a RP site? You make it sound like it's for real... it's not...


Well maybe he feels closer to Cinderpelt because she was his former apprentice Dappleclaw 22:15, January 16, 2010 (UTC) Dappleclaw


True. But Firestar was Bluestar's apprentice, warrior, and deputy. She told him everything. So Bluestar and Cinderpelt both had strong connections with Firestar.74.107.120.99 02:30, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Firestar probably just could have been able to trust Cinderpelt because Bluestar and Yellowfang would have overreacted, and Cinderpelt has a calm head compared to the aforementioned she-cats.71.38.60.130 02:19, November 30, 2010 (UTC)


Well it might've been because Bluestar seemed a little mad back then, and he was probably too scared to tell her. Like the person above, I would also say that Bluestar and Yellowfang would overreact and go crazy. Cinderpelt would simply try to figure out the dream with him and give advice. -- Tinyflame --

Please take the Chatting to the forums please Grizzlyclaw00 00:33, January 13, 2011 (UTC)Grizzlyclaw00

But Cinderpelt was never meant to be a medicine cat and when the one sign about squirrelflight and brambleclaw would come together to help the clans cinderpelt interpeted it as they would destroy the clans. I think if firestar told bluestar or yellowfang I don't think that erin hunter would make yellowfang flip out but because bluestar was going a little crazy erin might have made bluestar freak out. - Silverthistle

Yellowfang wasn't too open with Fireheart. If he told her about the signs she might figure it out but not tell him. I also agree with Tinyflame (the one2 up from this) that Bluestar was a little crazy back then, and might have taken any sign as StarClan threating her or something. Cinderpelt was Fireheart's first apprentice, and had a calm mood after her ingury. She must have seem more trustworthy to Fireheart. ~~Spottedstar the 42nd~~

It was also revealed by the Erins that Cinderpelt loved Firestar $~^*Cinderblaze12*^~$ 23:49, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

This is exactly what Leafpool said about Cinderpelt in Twilight, page 246. "You can't possibly understand! You've never been in love!" But, Leafpool is totally wrong. Anybody who read the original ark knows this.--Guppy990 (talk) 19:38, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Quotes[]

Is Cinderpelt going to have a quote(s)? If so, I have a good (well, I think it's pretty good) one from Midnight. Snowfeather1Meow Mix, YUM! 00:08, January 14, 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot to put signature

That's a good idea

Cinderheart[]

Since she is reincarnated as Cinderheart then shouldn't the parts in PoT and tFA be listed? Like when she helps Jayfeather in tFA or when she "becomes"Cinderpelt? i think we should include only the parts of those books where she actually shows as Cinderpelt.--Artimas HunterWelcome to Bramblepath's Den 22:54, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

You're right --Willowpool 'My talk' 01:03, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure though, because we already have a Cinderheart page, so it would just be a waste of time. We can say in Twilight that she has been reincarnated as Cinderheart and add a link to her page, if that's what you mean, but that's just my opinion. TawnySMEASH 00:22, July 12, 2010 (UTC)



Did anyone notice she is reborn as her brother's kit?! Yuck!

Icebreath 17:08, September 11, 2010 (UTC)Icebreath forevah!

I noticed she was reborn as Brackenfur (her brother)'s kit, but how is that yuck?

to the person above me, its probably because they were BROTHER AND SISTER, not FATHER AND DAUGHTER. Think about it, if you were Cinderpelt and reincarnated as your BROTHER's kit (or say you died and reincarnated as your brother or sister's next child), wouldnt you find that a little weird? you would have a whole different mom, dad, etc.

also, i read some other things like this about Cinderpelt reincarnating as Cinderheart. U know how the spirit of Cinderpelt leaves Cinderheart without cinderheart dying? if you reincarnated, wouldnt you die if your spirit left the body? and wouldnt you remember your whole past *or just some of it* and your real name and life? I could be wrong, but ya never know

Cinderpelt was only possessing Cinderheart (Creepy right?). Cinderpelt left Cinderheart's spirit because Cinderheart had her own destiny. I'm still pretty creeped out. But what would Lionblaze say if I told him his mate was possessed by the cat who had a crush on Firestar, his grandpa?--Guppy990 (talk) 19:42, November 17, 2013 (UTC)

Forums Guppy. Amber The One and Only19:46 Sun Nov 17

Medicine Cat Apprentice[]

Doesn't she need to have 'Medicine Cat Apprentice: Cinderpaw' in the Names section? I'd edit it myself but I'm not too good with it... :) BirchyI am a warrior at heart... 17:33, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'll try Snickers20 17:20, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

I love Cinderpelt! I never thought she would become a medicine cat apprentice,well I knid of did but I'm only on the third book.

Please take that some where else. Starrlingpool

Lionheart?[]

Someone put Lionheart as her father and cited it as 'Fire and Ice', page 95-97. Can someone check for me because I don't have Fire and Ice? ★ Flowerleaf ★ 19:31, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Flowerleaf, I checked, And the only time Lionheart was mentioned is when Bluestar gave Cinderpaw to Fireheart to mentor (since Lionheart was his mentor). And Fireheart thought he was watching Cinderpaw's apprenticeship. The same guy I think also put Lionheart as Frostfur's mate. I took care of that though, so no one has to worry about it.SakraTheHedgie 19:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! ★ Flowerleaf ★ 19:58, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Ciatation[]

Do you need a ciatation for the akwardly twisted leg?☻Sunstar27☻Follow your Destiny! 16:36, September

I don't think so. Why?

Seen Living and Dead[]

I think we should put that Cinderpelt was seen dead in Twilight and Sunset, since we saw her dead body, and I think in Twilight when Cinderpelt had died and Leafpool found out, Leafpool could smell Cinderpelt's scent around her along with Spottedleaf's scent. If you want, I could find what page that it's at.


Anyways, should we? Dawnwhisper 07:07, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

No. Vicky confirmed that she never went to Starclan when she died, she went right into Cinderkit. ★ Flowerleaf ★ 01:24, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

CINDERPELT RULES!

Still, we did see Cinderpelt dead. o3o Dawnwhisper 04:07, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Its about seeing a cat post death, as in seeing a cat in StarClan or the Dark Forest. You can't technically say that someone died in a certain book if you haven't seen them post death. - User:Gingertail/Sig 15:13, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

I have one question, though. Would it count as seeing Cinderpelt in the books with Cinderheart in them? I'm not sure if it should because if she was reincarnated into Cinderheart, then She pretty much is
Cinderheart. The only problem is if we did say she was listed as being in the book it wouldbe confusing for someone who isn't paying attention.~~ Spottedstar the 42nd~~

Well we have a page on Cinderheart, so what really is the point? ~ Whirlwind~

Eh, I think if she did reincarnated into Cinderheart, she would of remembered her life atleast. And if she did, she would of still loved Firestar secretly instead of liking Lionblaze afterwards. Personally, I think there should of been parts in the book that said she was Cinderpelt in Cinderheart and then when it was Cinderheart. If it really was cinderpelt, maybe the scent would of been on her, she would of remembered all her life, and cats would realize "Hey, it's Cinderpelt!". then when it was Cinderheart's spirit as if she wasnt reincarnated, cinderheart would have her own life. if cinderpelt left cinderheart at the end, it should be like that. And jayfeather should've told everyone cinderpelt reincarnated, and everyone realize from time to time.

Quote[]

Is there supposed to be the quote at the top like that? User:Kittypet1/Sig 21:45, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it's a new idea that was decided on by Project Characters--Nightshine 21:48, September 25, 2010 (UTC)


Twilight scene?[]

I know Bluestar was already cited for the beginning of Twilight, but wasn't Yellowfang there too? It might be helpful if we checked who the cats were, but that's just my thoughts...Talyn09 21:36, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean when StarClan was telling Cinderpelt, that her death was near? WhiteStorm is back! 04:34, October 9, 2010 (UTC) Exactly. :3


I'm trying to find the book now... Talyn09 02:23, October 10, 2010 (UTC)


I think the Character Pixel should have a limp leg to make it more accurate. Cowsrock1 01:21, November 28, 2010 (UTC

This should be taken up with PCA, Cowsrock. It has nothing to do with the conversation above. And Cinderpelt already has a Character Pixel with a limp leg. --User:Midnitesky/Sig 01:24, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Whew, I never new my best friend Midnite could be so harsh. But she's right and if you are going to do that (which you should not), make a new topic. That has nothing to do with the Twilight Scene. NightfernThe Ferns of Night 04:26, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Snorts* Nightfern, my harsh level ranges from zero to 10,000. ;) But yes, you're right too, this is talking about the Twilight scene, not the character pixel. Also, Talyn, when you find the book (if you find the book), make sure there's a clear reference to Yellowfang before you add it in. You probably know that, though. :) --User:Midnitesky/Sig 17:27, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

I just got the book before Tayln( as the book was on hand) and read the prolouge quick. Yellowfang was not there. but there was Bluestar, Tallstar, Crookedstar, and suspected Spottedleaf and Feathertail or Silverstream.~~ Spottedstar the 42nd~~

cinderpelt and cinderheart[]

in forest of secrets, she seemed happy to become a medicine cat apprentice71.253.195.90 16:44, December 24, 2010 (UTC)berrystorm

Casual chatter does not belong on character talk pages. Please take it to the off wiki forum.  Kitsufox  Den/CoSC 01:42, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

in dark river, cinderheart fell out of the sky oak

....and? Add it Cinderhearts page if its not there, but you don't need to post it on Cinderpelts page. - User:Gingertail/Sig 15:40, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

When was Cinderpelt shown as white in warriors return?

She was shown as white on page 10. User:A Cat Named Cheshire/Sig 00:54, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Apprentice charart[]

It looks like Cinderpelt has one leg on her medicine cat apprentice charart... .Skystar.- Owner of all tulgy puddings 01:57, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that too. She should have a twisted foot there. 雨Ice cave雨 16:26, April 18, 2011 (UTC)

No she shouldn't, since she hasn't had a twisted foot since she was kitted. You could put that in the passage. ~Whirlwind~

page[]

what hapened to her page?! it's all like.... jacked up!! Sandstormrocks32 17:11, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what happened. Whatever it was, I fixed it. Moonflight 17:15, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

I think this proves Whitestorm is her father...[]

I found this on Kate's Facebook page today. http://zyker325.deviantart.com/art/BLAM-243725832 I think that proves that Whitestorm is infact Bright/Thorn/Bracken/Cinder's father and Frostfur's mate. JackelfaceThe one and only! 20:36, July 20, 2011 (UTC)

Can someone put Whitestorm as her father please? Kate confirmed it on her page...

Whitestorm as her Father - Properly Discussed[]

According to some, THIS constitutes proof that Whitestorm is her father. I disagree with it. The exchange in question is as follows, and I feel that people are reading only a single line and not taking the meaning of the whole exchange.

Nick A.: Hi kate! just wondering, who is cinder pelt's father? like a confirmed father? [excluded the end of his statement]
Shaina J.: [truncated beginning] Vicky said she's like to think it was Whitestorm, but not to quote her on it.
Nick A.: I know but I wonder what Kate thinks XD
Kate Cary: Def Whitestorm!

From this exchange I do not feel that we can substantiate Whitestorm as her sire because you cannot verify if she's confirming a sire, or confirming that she'd like to think it was Whitestorm like Vicky. The given statement simply isn't bulletproof. It doesn't say "her sire is definitely Whitestorm". It can mean either "her sire is definitely Whitestorm" or "i'd very much like her sire to be Whitestorm". We can't just consider a single line in a conversation, we have to consider the entire exchange.

 Kitsufox  Den/CoSC 03:14, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Eh, the only Erin I trust 100% is Vicky, but I say keep what I put up: that Kate mentioned that Whitestorm MAY be the father. If Vicky thinks so and Kate backs it up, I think it's substantial enough for that at least. Shelly For a limited time only 03:19, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Eh, I heard about this originally from here. So, I went to the actual facebook page to see if it was true. Sure enough, it was there, so I took a screenshot. I was just the guy who said I'll add it in. If you think it shouldnt be included, then I wont stand in your way x) --Bloo!yo 03:23, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

I very honestly don't think that post is proof. We can't substantiate what Kate meant with the statement she made. There are two very clear possible meanings for her statement of "def whitestorm". People are ignoring the entirety of the conversation when they label that FB comment as proof.  Kitsufox  Den/CoSC 15:29, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I agree, I don't think Whitestorm is her father. Unless we have actually proof from Vicky about him being her and her siblings father, I won't believe it. Vicky even said on her FB page once that she likes to think of Lionheart as Brackenfur's father, which would mean his siblings are included. (I forgot where it was, but I saw it once.) Silverhmm 21:39, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

I have actual BOOK PROOF that Whitestorm is their father :D It's crystal Clear![]

Okay, so on page 264 of Into the Wild, Whitestorm has lead a patrol to go get the four stolen kits from ShadowClan (Thorn, Cinder, Bright, and Bracken) and then he talks to Yellowfang about coming back to ThunderClan. She says,"You do need a medicine cat, for you and for your kits," BAM. Yellowfang said those kits where Whitestorm's :D JackelfaceThe one and only! 20:20, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

No, no. I believe Yellowfang meant the kits belonged to ThunderClan. ♥Phoenixfeather: Sebastian is one hot butler :)♥ 20:21, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Reincarnation[]

It says that she died and went straight to cinderheart but in twilight spottedleaf and cinderpelt come to her and spottedleaf says something and cinderpelt says starclan is always watching over you. I can get the actual quote and get the source if you want me to prove it. Starshine☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 00:23, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Since you have evidence, it should be added in the trivia section with a reference. Atelda insert vague subtext here 19:00, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Cinderkit?[]

Where was she or her siblings ever mentioned with kit names? -Sunheart- 18:58, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Not that I know of. Atelda insert vague subtext here 19:00, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

When the kits were taken by ShadowClan. There were four kits, if memory serves me correctly. We don't know which one was which, but we do know which kits they were. Brackenkit, Thornkit, Brightkit and Cinderkit, I do believe. Jayce() 19:00, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Cinderkit kidnapped[]

it couldn't have been cinderkit kidnapped by shadowclan in Into the Wild. Is Fire and Ice, page 108, when Fireheart is showing her the ShadowClan border, she says, "I remember that scent from when Brokenstar attacked our camp. And it was on the kits he took, when you brought them home. It's ShadowClan!" I understand that it makes sense, Fireheart pulling a kit who was gray like cinders, but why would she say, "it was on the kits he took, when you brought them home." if she was one of the kits captured? And if she was too young to remember it, and Frostfur or someone only told her that so she wouldn't be scared or something to know it was her, then she wouldn't be almost 6 moons old. It doesn't make sense.Spottedstar42The WWiki vandals Must fall!!! 08:25, December 2, 2011 (UTC)


Another of the frequent inconsistancy issues with Warriors. You could add it to the trivia. Cinders are Blazing ᴸᴵᴼᴺѕ ᴳᴼт ᴺᴵᴺᴶа ᴾᴬᵂѕ 03:22, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

i thought one of brightheart's siblings was swiftpaw at first, so thats when i agreed with the top one. but then i checked out the warriorcats.com site and went to the cat family tree updated to "the sight" (link is here: http://warriorcats.com/warriorshell.html ) and it confirms Cinderpelt WAS one of the kits *you can see that where it has brackenfur near the left almost in the middle*. and i was wrong when i thought brightheart and swiftpaw arent sisters; graystripe and swiftpaw are brother and sister.

The Warriors official website is not accurate, therefore we do not use it for citing information. Jayce(05:31,7/30/2012) ( 05:31,7/30/2012 )

Two med. cat chararts in the gallery.[]

Cinderpelt has two med. cat chararts in the gallery if someone could fix that please? =) Acornflight Med. Cat ofLunarClan! 04:24, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

She has two because one is an alternate image, so, her page is fine. =) Rainlegs 04:29, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

TLH[]

I'm new to the project, so I don't know about this but (Spoilers for TLH) Should we add dead for TLH because when Cinderheart makes the choice to be a warrior Cinderpelt's spirit comes out of her body and whispers thank you. Just don't know about that.TheBoss2 19:27, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

YES!!! That is what I've been trying to post alllll day!!!(computer died :P) She is finally in StarClan because she isn't Cinderheart 'cause she chose to be a warrior and that sent her spirit free! She is finally in StarClan.

108.233.17.102 23:01, April 7, 2012 (UTC) ~Amberleaves~

Found her father[]

I looked on the Wikipedia article for Thunderclan cats and it said Whitestorm was her father. In case you want proof of it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ThunderClan_cats#Bluestar.27s_Prophecyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ThunderClan_cats#Bluestar.27s_Prophecy TheBoss2, Beware the Boss 20:28, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

We can't use that as a legit source. Unless it's from one of the authors, or a book, it's not viable. Jayce() 20:32, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, sorry than.TheBoss2, Beware the Boss20:36, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Reincarnated...[]

You know, I think we're misusing the word reincarnated here... (SPOILERS) If Cinderpelt's soul was able to split away from Cinderheart and leave with Cinderheart still completely intact and just missing Cinderpelt's memories, this proves that Cinderheart is an entirely different cat, not a reincarnation. If anything, it's more like Cinderpelt was passively possessing Cinderheart, just an extra soul latched onto the body that could leave at any time and not just a single soul reborn in a new body. Should we at least mention this tidbit in the trivia or something? Shelly For a limited time only 01:05, July 3, 2012 (UTC)

If I get no objections, I'll add it in tonight after work. Shelly For a limited time only 18:23, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

AHHHHHHH YIPPEEE DOO DAA BAHH!!!!!! LOOKIE SOMEONE PLEASE![]

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Wut is this for? --Pulty talk this is just a test for the wikitext 07:15, March 30, 2017 (UTC)

Why didn't Cinderpelt's leg heal?[]

Just wondering, why didn't Cinderpelt's leg heal? Usually if you break your leg, then as long as you take care of it and don't move it to much, the bone will mend itself. Did the twoleg monster do more than just break her leg?

The medicine cats did as much as she could to mend it, but the cats are not doctors - they don't have the correct things to mend it. Her leg didn't heal because the force of the Twoleg monster probably smashed her leg. Berry Midnight Monster's Parade! 00:46 Thu Nov 22

This should be on the forums. —by The Great Pulty, at 03:59, April 15, 2017 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Ceremony[]

I'm just asking, but why isn't there a little blue block for "Cinderpaw's Medicine Cat apprentice ceremony" and "medicine cat ceremony" or something? Please tell me if it isn't needed. But if it is, then can someone do it for me? I don't know how to edit well. 61.222.190.32 07:37, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

We never actually saw Cinderpelt's medicine cat apprentice or medicine cat ceremonies, so we don't have quotes for them. That's why we just have the apprentice ceremony; because it was seen in the book. Thank you, though. c: -Rustle it takes a leap of faith 07:49, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

What was worng with Cinderpelt?[]

What was wrong with my edit Cloudskye? Please tell me why it was to be undone.

My defense: Warrior Apprentice isn't right because on the others it just has "Apprentice" and "Warrior" seperate.

Greenkit1209 (talk) 15:31, March 29, 2013 (UTC)greenGreenkit1209 (talk) 15:31, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that I can answer this. Cinderpelt was apprentice to both a Warrior and a Medicine Cat, therefore there has to be some distinction in her charcat, so she's listed as a Warrior Apprentice and Medicine Cat Apprentice as not to get people confused from having Apprentice and Medicine Cat Apprentice. x3 -Ducksauce 15:34, March 29, 2013 (UTC)

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Current Affiliations[]

If Cinderpelt is dead, shouldn't her current affiliations be StarClan and not ThunderClan? ~Xo, MinniHowl (talk) 11:17, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

Confirmed Father[]

Hey, I've found a source that confirms that Lionheart was indeed Frostfur's mate, but I don't know the code for a source. Here is the link if you want to see.


talk (I don't play flute) 00:41, November 10, 2015 (UTC)



Cinderkit[]

Well, on the warriors app, it says that her name was Cinderkit. I think that since that the new stuff is added on the wiki, shouldn't we list her kit name as Cinderkit? --Pumpkintail (talk) 17:48, May 29, 2016 (UTC)

Where does it say that? I have the app and I'm pretty sure it's not there, unless it's embedded in the trivia game thing that I've yet to complete... spooky is that... a furry cat?!? 18:25, 5/29/2016

when you go to "cats and clans" and tap "cats" and then "Cinderpelt", in "other names" will be "Cinderkit". Do the same with Sandstorm - it calls her "Sandkit"! Mystery solved *applause* --Pumpkintail (talk) 16:03, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

I have it screenshoted *waves with iPhone* --Pumpkintail (talk) 16:04, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

Post the screenshot, the. Foxey Whispers and enchantments

where? --Pumpkintail (talk) 16:19, May 30, 2016 (UTC)

oh well... sorry of its already there --Pumpkintail (talk) 16:35, May 30, 2016 (UTC)


Found it, however this is already on her page..? It's on Sandstorm's page too spooky is that... a furry cat?!? 16:26, 5/30/2016

Fixed mistake in Forest of Secrets[]

Should we put that in the Forest of Secrets' 'allegiances, the Cinderpaw listed as Cinderpelt is fixed in the offical reprint allegiances?Dancing Hearts110 (talk) 02:08, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

It could be added here. Water 02:12, January 24, 2017 (UTC)

I agree that it should be added there, ubt it also would be best for it to be on this page too.

Question[]

Why didn’t Leafpool try to heal Cinderpelt when Cinderpelt lay dying in the badger attack? 70949 (talk) 03:32, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

The talk page is for discussing the betterment of the article, rather than about the character themself. Take it somewhere else, please? -- Neon Skylite CH-CH-CH-CHERRY BOMB! 06:03, 5/11/2018

Like, where? 70949 (talk) 10:44, May 11, 2018 (UTC)

Where should I take it? 70949 (talk) 01:22, May 12, 2018 (UTC)

Ya, what happened to the forums?—|| Grudgeholderr ||— 03:02, May 12, 2018 (UTC)

the forums just... kind of went dead. stopped being modded, people only come on once in a blue moon... just went dead. But you could take it pretty much anywhere? Another wiki, a warriors Discord? Just not here because we're talking about how to make the article better on these talk pages? -- Neon Skylite CH-CH-CH-CHERRY BOMB! 05:07, 5/12/2018

Yeah this isn't for that kind of stuff. JayI hope they remember you....ϟ 05:14, 5/12/2018

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