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May 28, 2013

Re: SkyClan's Territory + Mistakes?

I am trying to write a fanfiction about SkyClan, but in the article about current SkyClan's territory in the gorge, there are a few things I am a little confused about:

1. It says that both the Skyrock and the Rockpile is where the leader holds ceremonies and meetings. So which one is truly where Leafstar has her ceremonies and meetings? Or at least most of them? I would think the Skyrock would be the place, but that Rockpile would be a better place, since it is low enough down (although SkyClan has excellent jumping skills) for elders and queens to come to, as they usually bring their kits, even though they aren't technically "old enough to catch their own prey" for a Clan meeting.

2. In addition, the Skyrock is supposedly where the medicine cats go every half-moon, and this is where Leafstar went to receive her 9 lives instead of the Whispering/Shining Cave, but this cave is also said to be where medicine cats share tongues with StarClan. Only the med cats can go to the cave alone, and each place is said to be like the Moonstone/Moonpool, but is the Skyrock the main place where they go to be with StarClan? I would think that the cave would be the place, since it shines like the Moonstone...Mistystar31 (talk) 19:09, May 23, 2014 (UTC)

Re:

To be listed as a dead book I believe the cat actually needs to be appear, (like their spirit appears, such as in StarClan or the Dark Forest) which Stonepelt doesn't. Bluestar just mentions his death in passing. Ferncloud's spirit appeared at the end of the book, however. That's why it's listed as a dead book for her. Shimmer 17:21, 07/16/2013

Yup, that's why. Since she dies in A Dangerous Path but doesn't appear as a spirit until The Darkest Hour only The Darkest Hour is listed as a dead book. Shimmer 21:14, 07/17/2013

Re:

It's not a reliable source of info, unless you get a confirmation from Vicky, or any of the other Erins o3o Bbunlegs 03:51, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

It seems reliable, especially with the references I placed. How did you redo my "edit", or rather my help of understanding which cats were on the front cover, right after I put it there?

Mistystar31 (talk) 03:57, August 19, 2013 (UTC)

Re:

The link you showed me would go on Thistlepaw's page, actually, but basically you put a < ref> and </ ref>, without the spacing, to do a cite that's on Facebook or Kate's facebook.

Then, you put in the link of the cite in these brackets, [ and ]. I hope this helped you! Bbunlegs 19:44, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, wrong link, but there is one for Tawnypelt's trivia page. I'll try what you said and hope it works. Thanks.

Mistystar31 (talk) 19:57, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Tawnypelt

Could you please stop changing how the cite is on Tawnypelt's trivia? It's fine how it is, honestly, and that's how we format all cites. o.O If you're not sure of how to do something, you're more than welcome to look at the code and ask (which you did, and Beebs explained it.) ouo jayce dream on 21:08, 8/21/2013 

Well, I have a direct link, and that's the link I used. It's the whole link, and goes directly to Vicky's comment. As for the "revealed on", since the references go straight to the reflist at the bottom of the page, we should also use proper grammar there, and only having "Vicky's facebook" makes no sense. Adding the revealed on part gives it a little more of a sentence-feel. jayce dream on 21:15, 8/21/2013 

What is your direct link? When I tried to put my direct link on, I noticed that Cloudskye had cut the end part off and replaced it with the Vicky's facebook part. Why is that?

Uh, I am Cloudskye. o.o And the direct link is this one. It's what is currently on the article, and I had to add the other part because that's required when adding a cite. The direct link that I added is fine, and I'm not quite sure why you changed it? jayce dream on 21:31, 8/21/2013 

I didn't mean to be annoying when changing the cite on Tawnypelt's trivia; I was just trying to do as Beebs instructed, but it kept not working, so I was "experimenting". Anyway, the link I used was a direct link for me, but it had more at the end than the comment=12 part because I had commented on the page, and so it had a little more on the link that I used. That would explain why my link didn't really work. Anyway, I'm sorry for any trouble with the trivia link's source. I'm also grateful for you explaining that after the "< ref>" (without the space, as Beebs said), you add "Revealed on" before the [ and add whoever's facebook] before the other < /ref>. Thank you for more info.

Are you angry at me for all of this? Please tell me the truth, and if so, please accept my apology. I really am sorry for the trivia and talk page trouble. If so, please give me another chance.

Mistystar31 (talk) 21:47, August 21, 2013 (UTC)

Re:

Temporary is when a cat is assigned a different mentor, while their current one is out of commission, or something along those lines. Jayfeather was Brightheart's official apprentice. He just happened to decide to take another path in his Clan. That doesn't make Brightheart any less of an official mentor to him. jayce dream on 04:49, 10/1/2013 

Re: Help on Blue "Table" and Cites/Sources

Hi, Mistystar31. Basically, anything inside the double braces, {{ and }} , is apart of the table and will display any information in it on the table. Then there are parameters, which is the vertical bar, | , and the label of that parameter which is anything to the right of that vertical bar as well as the equal sign =. The parameter label is pretty specific, so if the parameter asks for the publication date, for example, you would put the information to the right of the equal sign.

So for example, if you had a table such as this:

{{Book
|image=Noimage.png
|author = N/A
|publish date = }}

And say, you want to put in the author's name, you would delete the "N/A" and put the author so it would look like this:

{{Book
|image=Noimage.png
|author = Kate Cary
|publish date = }}

and it would display Kate Cary's name in the author spot. If you are unsure of what a parameter label is asking for, you can always use the search bar in the upper right of the screen and search for the title of the template. The title of the template is what comes directly after the double braces at the beginning of the table. So in this case, the title would be Book. However, you want to ensure that when you search for this template, you add the beginning label of Template: to specify what type of page you are searching for. So to search for a template, you would put in the search bar Template:Book

To make two cites have the same label, the only way you can do that is to have the reference the exact same as another reference. By that I mean, it must be the same format, link, and everything. Otherwise, every reference will have it's own number to refer to.

Also, thank you for asking about everything that you're unsure of. It's great that you come for help. =) Atelda 03:47, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Sometimes it will have extra coding due to the type of mode you are editing in. There are two tabs at the top right of this editing window that say "Source" and "Visual". You always want to edit in source mode as it will show the coding underneath the appearance of the page. Sometimes, when you edit in visual mode, the coding window will automatically try to transfer whatever appearance you try to put into visual mode into coding which doesn't always translate correctly, nor is the coding really needed.

The reason why the two citations won't translate into one is because there is not the same link, or in other words, the two links to the facebook pages are not the same url therefore the wiki will not direct the two citations into one. Atelda 05:18, October 3, 2013 (UTC)

Then it's probably just due to the external source inside an internal source that the coding doesn't decide to match up. Just don't sweat it. Atelda 04:01, October 5, 2013 (UTC)

Re:

While it is about facts, it still belongs on Thistlepaw's trivia section, not the one for Bramblestar's Storm. It does not matter if she's a minor character, a mentioned character, or even a main one. It doesn't have to do with the book itself (like say a release date mention or something like that), and it's already mentioned on her page, so there's no need to place it elsewhere too. jayce dream on 05:53, 10/26/2013 

When I said "doesn't belong here", I was referring to the page for Bramblestar's Storm. Which, it doesn't. It belongs on Thistlepaw's page. jayce dream on 05:56, 10/26/2013 

I've already explained why I don't want it there. It doesn't pertain to the book itself, but for a character, that being Thistlepaw. While it's nice to have, it honestly should just stay on the character page, otherwise we'll have to place dozens more bits of information on countless articles, and it would quadruple some of the page sizes. I mean, have you seen the mistakes page? If we add things like that trivia to the page for Bramblestar's Storm, that means we'd need to add a lot of what's on this page to book articles as well. jayce dream on 06:19, 10/26/2013 

We've had the updated cover for a while now, as seen here. Sometimes, the cache just sometimes won't let the image show up properly. Usually, clearing your cache will help solve this problem. The OF's thread is a few days late, as this cover's been out for at least ten days now. Beebs had uploaded it when she checked one of HC's websites for us. jayce dream on 17:24, 2/25/2014 

Smokefoot

We don't have to mention which EH chat it was, and I think it's fine how I had it. We don't need to mention it, because it's already stated which chat it is in the references, which any person can check if they doubt it. I tried to make it slightly more professional, and I seriously don't see what the problem with my edit is. jayce dream on 18:42, 4/22/2014 

I seriously don't see what the problem with my edit is, either.  Yours might be more professional, but mine was still fine, and I thought it was professional, with adding the names/numbers of the EHCs.  Before you edited my edit, there was the phrase "Erin Hunter Chat 7", so I thought it would be fine to add "Erin Hunter Chat 3".  And I at least helped by correcting and adding a few facts, such as Kate, instead of Vicky, saying the two cats aren't the same in EHC 7, and that Vicky at first said in EHC 3 that it was a mistake, implying they were the same cats.  Technically, there is something wrong with your edit: Vicky didn't actually apologize; she just said that it was her fault for keeping Smokepaw alive and making him Smokefoot (until Kate changed them into 2 separate cats).  Admitting you're guilty for the mistake and apologizing for it are different.Mistystar31 (talk) 19:00, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

I still disagree, but I think your newest edit appears to be a little better than mine, so I think I'd like to keep it how it is (I think going halfway on that would be just fine). I misread it, and thought she did apologize. I'm also going through and changing quite a bit to remove things like that, since I don't think some of it was needed. I never once said you didn't help- I'm actually glad you pointed out the information in the third EH chat- I didn't notice that and I wasn't the one who initially added the trivia to begin with. jayce dream on 19:05, 4/22/2014 

Just curious--what do you disagree on?  What "things" do you want to remove?  I know you didn't say I didn't help, but I get annoyed when I just put out all the facts I can find and some (the origins, like the EHCs) are "deleted", even if you can see the origins in the references.  And I'm not blaming you (or anyone) for not adding every fact to trivia; there's most-most-most likely other stuff I haven't added.Mistystar31 (talk) 19:22, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

Like, things that say "in EH chat (number)" and things like that. It seems to me like it's a double mention, and it just doesn't feel needed. I didn't delete anything you added- just rephrased it and gave it a more "professional" look, since we are an encyclopedia-based wiki. The more professional you can be, the better. That part you added actually was helpful, since I'm pretty sure someone overlooked it. That's part of the reason why the references are there- so people can check where what fact is stated. jayce dream on 19:32, 4/22/2014 

Yeah, I understand, and I know that's why the references are there--I like to check where some facts were found and use the references, too.  I know you didn't "delete" anything, just rephrased or let it only be in refs.  I just sometimes think, even with the refs being a double mention, that when you add in the EH chat #, it looks more professional.  But I understand, and if you're fine with the trivia edit, so am I.  Are we still going halfway, or are we totally agreeing with this edit?  I like to compeletely agree most of the time.Mistystar31 (talk) 19:47, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

Nooo, what I meant by halfway was although I liked my version of the edit, yours is just as good so we'll go with that instead of fighting over whose version is better. You're entitled to edit, and so am I. Sometimes disagreements happen, and that's what talk pages are for- to settle any disagreements. jayce dream on 19:51, 4/22/2014 

Okay.  I know that's the purpose of talk pages; that's what we've been doing.  Thank you for liking my last version and the other facts I put in.  I really appreciate it.Mistystar31 (talk) 20:00, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

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