Phew! Hard cat to do, as I am not that good at texture. I should have the color hex codes soon. Suggestions for improvement for Buzzardstar? ➤KnightChasing aftergold mines 00:10, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
Beautiful like diamonds in the sky maybey lighten the belly and face-neck ish shading? Bramble(talk) 03:58, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
Blur the haunch shading. Pretty~ david 🌈 04:26, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
Re-uploaded Thanks! Blurred haunch shading, then lightened it along with the face and neck. Also forgot the lighter color along the bottom of the tail, so I added that in. ➤KnightChasing aftergold mines 23:07, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
I honestly can't find anything wrong with this. CBA? -Raelic (Talk) 01:46, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
File:Sky (leader).leader.png Here we go, the cat I've been wanting for ages upon ages! I tried something different with the shading, I tried doing fuzzy shading, and I think it still needs some work. Fire your critiques away! Iveh Yo! 00:20, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Try defining the shading a little? Also I think you forgot his earpink. xD david 🌈 01:51, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
It looks more mottled that furry... try making it smudge more smoothly in the direction of the fur, rather than just being fuzzy all over.
Reuploaded I didn't forget the earpink. And Paleh that's not it. I tweaked the shading a bit, but the fur texture on it flows in the direction that a cat's fur flows Iveh Yo! 05:05, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Blur the shading, and it stills looks mottled to me. I still think that's what's causing it, but if it's not, could you please fix whatever is?
Reuploaded I just redid the fur texture. Don't think changes are showing Iveh Yo! 05:45, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Reuploaded again The shading was bothering me. Screw doing furry shading, I need more practice. Iveh Yo! 06:00, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
I still see waste above the ears o3o Can you blur the haunch shading just a little more too? ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary01:41, 07, 03, 2013
Reuploaded Derp, yeah there was waste, it was just hard for me to see cause I'm a derp. I'm going to be at my Mom's where it's highly likely there'll be no Internet, however, if someone gives me their email I might be able to send it to there from my phone and they could upload it for me, if'n anyone's interested Iveh Yo! 17:04, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
I see some waste around it close to the lineart, plus some above the ears. Shimmer♫00:36, 03/8/2013
The fur around the earpink needs to be smudged, and it's really hard edged when it gets lighter.
Not jaggedy like sharpened but I mean... look at the stripes on the queen. It has like these bumps and such and they're not totally smooth. Jaggedy is the only way I can describe it. Has nothing to do with blurring, just with shape.
This looks absolutely lovely, but I think what Paleh is getting at is that the thickness doesn't particularly go with the curves of the stripes on the back. The stripes on the queen are extremely thick when it meets the spine and then taper out unevenly like stalactites with odd angles chipped off and added to them at random and with variation thus not uniform and smooth. The other stripes should also have an angle in the middle of them as well as uneven thickness so it looks like it changes direction abruptly rather than smoothly. Ateldainsert vague subtext here 01:33, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
Okay, probably gonna play with the colors a bit...but not the stripes. based 'em off one of my ginger tabbies<3 Imma redden the earpink tomorrow, 'cause gingers are a pain and I can only take so much of them in one sitting. Any other comments? Rainlegs 02:40, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
Maybe define the shading just a wee bit ^^ god damn man david 🌈 04:26, March 13, 2013 (UTC)
I think for the most part the shading's alright, but on the haunch and face it could be defined ya. I dunno, up to leggo.
Leggo, psst. Still working on this? —Cloud( 01:42, 3/18/2013 )
Yes ahmagawd I suck XD Forgot I had this up 'till now. Reuploaded~Rainlegs 00:56, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry to interrupt, but I think the shading could be smudged a tad to match the leader's shading. Bbunlegs 23:33, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
Erm, shading doesn't /have/ to match. Shading will look different at different times and I'm pretty sure that the shading didn't look exactly the same when he was a leader. So, Re-CBA? Appledashthe devil's hand 01:51, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
Continuing from where original CBA was started. Approved. —Cloud( 23:38, 3/20/2013 )
Impossible to match pattern is flipping impossible to match. Ffff. This is the best I could do in such a different position. x.x But ah well, wheeee Stoat~ Comments?
Can you define the unshaded part on the tail? Love the pattern oh my o: ☯Mistypebble☯ 21:07, March 20, 2013 (UTC)
Not really, trust me without the markings there it's very defined, but it goes kinda wonky when you put dark on the unshaded part and white on the shaded part. Happened on the warrior tail too. Not much I can to about it, sorry.
File:Maleshortsoftpaw.pngFile:Malelongsoftpaw.pngAlright, since I won't be on later tonight, and I was told they should be on here today, here's the short-haired male blank. As wit blanks in the past, I will perfect this one first, then the others will be an easy lineart tweak. Iveh Yo! 20:51, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
There's some thinner lineart by the tip of the tail. (I can't help with the other stuff, 'cause I know nothing about it. lol, sorry for providing useless help.) —Cloud( 21:02, 9/18/2012 )
Can you make the back leg go behind the front leg on the side nearer to the right? I hope I make sense, I'm horrible at wording things owo.BoosDinosaurs on a Spaceship! 21:18, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
Can you make the blank a little bot smaller, and the nose more centered in the face? Also, make the tail just a little tiny bit longer. Beautiful, Ivy <3 Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 21:31, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
Cats have the most awesome anatomy while running. 8D Anyway, first thing is, if an animal has their legs that far forward while running, chances are both their front paws will not be on the ground. I would recommend lifting at least one amd giving it a wrist joint. Second, it's chest is way too large. Cats' ribcages end almost right with the shoulders, so that far shoulder is going to be much more prominent, the chest flatter, and the nearer shoulder larger. I would also recommend the cats head to our left slightly so that it's neck will appear longer and give you more room for the shoulders. It also might be slightly too large. The back legs are also off. Take the knee joint and bump it up higher. The hock will also be much shorter, so that the lineart for the foot is almost behind foreleg, and the far leg should be farther right and up. Here are the references I was using for it: 1, 2, 3. -Raelic (Talk) 21:34, September 18, 2012 (UTC)
Maybe lift the tail up a bit higher on the flank and make it a touch longer. The face seems to bulge a bit one this <-- side, but the eyes seems to indicate a flatter, more triangular face. Maybe lift the father ear up a bit more and make this --> side's whisker's bend go down instead of up. ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 00:29, September 20, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I'm not a cat analogy person but the thing with the hind paw on our right side, it looks odd. Mainly because with the other paw, they just seem different. The shape of the paw is odd and I think it looks... upside down I guess XDD. Well, mainly as the paw comes to a point and the paw shape doesn't seem... cat like. I know, I am also terrible at explaining things. Raineh Has returned :D 22:21, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
Uh, well, I'm not really an expert at these things, but the head seems to bulge a little. And the lower jaw seems to indicate a straight-up head, while the rest seems to be tilted. Dazzy 01:01, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded I tried D: Iveh Yo! 01:19, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
Make the ear on the right come <---this was a bit? The head looks a bit too long at the top owo
Make the neck longer and move it slightly higher. Round and smooth out the back and move the far hind leg even furthur under the body. Also, move that jaw line closer to the rest of the head. You also might make that near front paw a little smaller. You're doing awesome, Ivy. -Raelic (Talk) 15:00, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
I'm no expert, but could you smooth out the lineart? Amazing job<3333 ☯Stoneclaw☯16:17,9/22/2012
Can you fix the right ear's (our right) lineart? Where the earpink normally goes that's a bumped line where the ear's actual lineart connects. Hope this makes sense xD. Silverhmm 22:46, September 22, 2012 (UTC)
Not knocking you guys, but redlines help me the most, I'm just a visual kind of person. I'd really appreciate one Shelly :) Iveh Yo! 00:56, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
Alright, I'm sorry, I couldn't redline. But I was able to work from your pose with a slight shift to look more natural. Feel free to use this or not. I think it's angry at something... Shelly For a limited time only 20:04, September 23, 2012 (UTC)
Wow, Ivy, this is beautiful <3. Could you try to make the tail a bit longer and make the head a bit more circular? ♪♫Feather ♪♫ 17:20, September 24, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded How about this? I feel that the back leg looks kind of funky but I tried :P Iveh Yo! 00:39, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
There's a spot on the tail where the lineart's thinner than the rest. Fix it, please? Or if it's supposed to be like that, ignore me. —Cloud( 00:45, 9/29/2012 )
I'm no anatomy expert, but the ear closest to us looks a bit...weird? o.oPikachushinxthe power of the past 02:06, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, it does look a little longer and more circular than the other one. Maybe make it straighter and shorter and angle it back a little more.
CharlieLet'sgo toCandyMountain 02:08, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind I did a redline of this, although I'm not officially added back yet.
File:Redline.pngI couldn't actually see the redline on top, so I moved it over. Basically, the legs need to be thinner and shorter, and the head rounder. Also, the shape of the hindleg is a little awkward. Darkhallowscall me maybe 07:22, September 29, 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to feel horrible for critiquing this, because I'm Horrid at cat anatomy, and I wouldn't be able to do any better. Also, if I repeat anything from up there^ I did Not mean to. I would remove the line on the back, the legs look too thick, the paws I don't think should be wider than the legs themselves, the tail is crooked, as is the back leg closest to us, and to me the neck looks to short. --RavenBeeeeeees 18:08, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
Smooth out the back a little more and move the "foot" on the hind leg back a little. -Raelic (Talk) 00:28, October 30, 2012 (UTC)
It's been a week with no update and over a month and a half since the initial upload... Sorry, Ivy, I know you're trying and your blank is cool, but I think someone else should finish this. Keep the pose but get it wrapped up. Shelly For a limited time only 16:23, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
I've really been trying, but with the redlines being so different and not entirely getting it, it's just been really difficult. I don't want to give this up, but I guess if the project agrees, I can send my file over to someone new. :/ Iveh Yo! 19:02, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
Well I've asked cloudy multiple times what would happen about time limits and such on this, and though an agreements never been made, but I personally think Ivy should have 2 months on this, and if it's not approved by then, someone else could take it, keeping the same pose. It's a blank, it should have a bit more time than normal images. However you would have to keep uploading it Ivy. I certainly wouldn't mind taking over, but I personally think Ivy should get until two months are up before it goes up for grabs to anyone, unless she chooses to withdraw it early for any reason.
Ship it 05:37, November 3, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with Paleh. Two months is good; twice as long as a normal charart. However, I think Ivy should choose who the blanks get passed off to, since they were hers. I also agree with keeping the same pose, since /that's/ why these blanks were picked. —Cloud( 20:00, 11/3/2012 )
Alright. Well, I did try and fix them up again, but I really need help on the paws. They are giving me the fits, no matter how much I re-shape them XD Iveh Yo! 01:32, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
Try making them more round, especially the one that is off the ground. -Raelic (Talk) 21:33, November 7, 2012 (UTC)
I /am, I didn't see the comment. I'm unable to shape the paws right and I am asking for help to get them right, I don't think I worded it correctly but I need a redline over my image on how the paws should look since I can't make them righ. Iveh Yo! 06:04, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
Oops. Sorry. I didn't see your comment. Here, I made some redlines. It might be a bit stylized but I hope it helps. -Raelic (Talk) 02:33, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
If you give it up, can I take over? Crystalheart! ❄ 20:48, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
First of all, Ivy's supposed to pick who to give it to when time's up, not just give it to whoever asks. Second, it's quite rude to ask to take over something before it's declined. Please don't do that.
Ship it 14:31, November 18, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded I used Breeze's redline pretty heavily, I hope this does it. If not, I already have someone in mind who can take over. I'm about at my wit's end with this lol Iveh Yo! 03:48, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
The head seems a little flat. Try rounding it out a little, move the closer ear forward, and make the muzzle stick out a bit more. -Raelic (Talk) 17:44, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
Can you maybe shrink the (our) right ear a bit? And the head looks a bit small for the body. (though that could just be me, I'm not good with this whole anatomy stuff) ☯Mistypebble☯ 22:14, November 27, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded I tried making the head bigger, only by a few pixils. Iveh Yo! 21:51, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
The head still seems a little flat. Maybe make it more round? Crystalheart! ❄ 21:57, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
Can you make the muzzle a bit more square and make the forepaw that's up a bit less splayed. Don't make the due-claw/toe pop out so much and maybe round the left hind paw a touch rounder/define the toes ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 04:47, December 1, 2012 (UTC)
The muzzle looks like the jaw is sticking out.. fix that, please. And smoothen out the tail a bit. Crystalheart! ❄ 05:05, December 1, 2012 (UTC)
This blank is beautiful, but it's a bit large. Maybe shrink it a tad? Crystalheart! ❄ 06:31, December 2, 2012 (UTC)
Erm, I don't mean to be a hassle or anything, but it's been well over two months, nearing three now. Shouldn't this be passed on to whoever Ivy chooses now?
Ship it 09:28, December 3, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, Ivy, but I got to agree with Paleh. :/ -Raelic (Talk) 23:43, December 3, 2012 (UTC)
But nobody has said anything else about any other flaws, if you see any other flaws then I guess decline this :/ But I'm only going to pass this on to whomever won't redo the blank. Iveh Yo! 01:19, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
Well I'm sorry but yes, the anatomy's still off on the legs and paws, and the whole blank needs to be shrunk, and the muzzle looks a bit... off *can't describe it* Sorry Ivy.
Ship it 01:51, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
You know what? I'm done. Whoever is willing to work with this instead of redoing it, leave me a message. I thought I was so close to getting this approved, but I'm not letting two months of hard work be erased. Iveh Yo! 05:09, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I'm sorry I got hissy there, but all I;ve wanted was to get these blanks completed, and now I can't, and it's just really frustrating, please understand how difficult this is for me. When the prey hunter blanks were being made by Night Shine and she left, Iceheart finished them for her, and I just want to be given that same courtesy. Iveh Yo! 08:10, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with that, Ivy. I think that if a user wants to take on the blanks, they should work with what's already given. It's not fair to you, and since others have gotten that same privilege, so will you. Plus, I voted for these because of the stance, and since that's what got picked, that's what'll stay. It's unfair to you, and to everyone who voted for your blanks. —Cloud( 18:38, 12/4/2012 )
Agreed. Ivy won the contest fair and square, her blanks were chosen to be put up for approval. That's what going to stay up for approval unless Ivy herself decides to take them down. There has never been, to my knowledge, a time limit on new blanks, and even if we decide to impose one in the future, that shouldn't apply to this. Ivy keeps the blanks. End of story. ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 00:56, December 6, 2012 (UTC)
Um, Scar that's not what any of us were saying... Cloudy was just saying that whoever gets the blank shouldn't redo it. We decided on a time limit of two months like a month ago. :/
Ship it 07:06, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Well, even if Scar was off topic, I'm inclined to agree with her. We created this time limit on blanks in the middle of Ivy working on these- it shouldn't apply to her. On any future blanks, then, I'm sure, yes, it will apply, but for these, no. Ivy should be able to continue work on these, like every other user in the past who's made a new blank. Rainlegs 22:09, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Leggo's got a good point, and I'm inclined to agree with her. Had we decided this before the blanks were posted, I would have to argue the point, however, that's not what we did. Since they were decided right in the middle of her posting them, it's hardly fair at all. So, I think Ivy should be allowed to keep them unless she so wishes to pass them on to another user to work on them. I didn't even /think/ of that. Thanks for pointing it out, Leggo. —Cloud( 22:21, 12/8/2012 )
Well, if that's what you guys want to do, then I will continue to work on them. However, since there have been a lot of comments on this, might I suggest we archive them to save room? Iveh Yo! 02:47, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded How's this? I reconstructed the mouth and eyebrow bone, gave the paws a more defined shape, and made the top of the hind foot less curvy. Also, shrank the blank more, it really should make the cat about the size of the apprentice blanks. Iveh Yo! 18:38, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm... should there be a gap in where the tail meets the rest of the body? Like, kinda how Briarlight's warrior image is? (again, not real good with this kind of thing. ._.) —Cloud( 18:42, 12/11/2012 )
Cloudy's right there should be a gap but you shouldn't erase the whole line just like 2/3's of it or so, and when you do you'll need to make the top of the tail blend a little bit better with back or the lineart will kind of dip in wierd, I think. Also, on our left, the muzzle looks like it extends to far out, you need to start curving it in closer to the face. Shimmer♫ 00:24, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
-insert join.me session advice here just for the sake of it being on record- ouo
Ship it 06:03, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded Ok, I gotta give major major MAJOR credit to Paleh's join.me session, and every detail was looked upon until she couldn't find anything else to critique. 8D Iveh Yo! 06:48, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
Amazing! The only thing I can find fault with is that the far hind leg seems to be overall missing. BluestarLeaf flying in the wind 14:21, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
It's there, Blue. It's just the position of the cat, I can see a bit of white where you can fill it in~ Canadia~Siriusis hiding... 23:19, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
I think we've butchered this honestly, but perhaps that's just me. This is a completely optional choice for you to do whatever craziness that follows Ivy. Elongate the body, bring the front paw closest to us more forward (<-- that a way), perhaps move the hind-legs back just a tad, put the hind-leg paw down more, and lower the chest area and put a little angle at the front of it. Ateldainsert vague subtext here 23:36, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry teldy but I have to disagree with most of that. The front paws are that far back when cats are running in this position, and it really helps to show movement, rather than just a cat floating there. And the chest probably wouldn't show too much on that.
But the back could be arched a biiit more, and the front paws drunk a bit. Maybe round the head a bit more too (I know that goes against what I said earleir, but...)
Ship it 06:07, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
Make the paws a little rounder, even out the eyes, make the body larger and the legs slightly shorter. Rotate the hock on the closes hind leg up a little bit. Make the haunch bigger and probably bend to go up higher. And I have to agree that the cat's raised paw is too far back. -Raelic (Talk) 06:21, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
I suggest moving the ear (on --> side) closer to the face since it looks a tad out of place. --Starry~angelfase~ 04:08, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded I tried :P Iveh Yo! 03:51, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
The way it is now, it looks almost cartoon-y. Shrink the ears, elongate the body just a tad, and thin out that bottom paw. oblivionAudience? 06:36, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and elongate the legs and round the back. oblivionAudience? 06:43, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded which paw? Iveh Yo! 21:21, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
I don't know if I am allowed to comment, but the mouth on the left side, it looks a little odd. You should let it come up more instead of going down.Gummybearkiller (talk) 21:55, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
The hind leg looks a bit too long, maybe give some more differentiation between the hip/flank and the actual leg? And show the pull on the shoulder muscle on the foreleg closest to us. Maybe scoot the head forward to make room for a bit of neck and shoulders? Maybe give some volume to the farthest forepaw, it looks a little flat. ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 00:43, January 8, 2013 (UTC)
Reuploaded I'm kind of unsure what you mean in the first part Iveh Yo! 06:03, January 10, 2013 (UTC)
Could you kinda tilt the image, or something? I don't know how to explain it, but it kinda looks like the cat's getting kicked in the shading place and flying away... sorry if I sound confusing I dunno how to explain it I'm not good with this stuff —Cloud( 20:58, 1/10/2013 )
Gummy, there are still comments that need to be accomplished under this topic, so it is not ready just yet. Also, refrain from commenting just to say it looks nice. I know you're new, so this is just a reminder. :) Splookit's a long waydown. 00:54, January 11, 2013 (UTC)
The anatomy could still use some re-working. The feet are oddly proportioned, the body is contorted oddly, the face anatomy looks off... sorry, but I can't think of how to be more helpful than that without being redundant. Shelly For a limited time only 21:31, January 16, 2013 (UTC)
Reuploaded I'll just casually place this here that I made with a reference I found Iveh Yo! 01:03, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
Beautiful, Ivy! Make the hind legs a touch bigger and maybe expand the head a bit so the features aren't quite so squashed ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 02:06, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
<33 I love it. The cat looks thin, not sure if that's supposed to look like that. Giratina is not amused 03:19, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
Reuploaded How's this? Iveh Yo! 05:37, January 17, 2013 (UTC)
Move the elbow up a bit and make the shoulder larger and rounder. Also, straighten hind foot and make the paw rounder and erase that toe to fit in at least three, four if you can. Also, smooth and round out the top of the thigh, and move the our right ear and cheek forward a bit. And maybe shorten the extended leg a little. -Raelic (Talk) 21:44, January 29, 2013 (UTC)
Reuploaded Alright, I tried, though I think I failed on bringing the cheek forward Iveh Yo! 04:31, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I didn't mean that. I mean the side of the jaw. D: Sorry, bad phrasing. -Raelic (Talk) 04:36, February 4, 2013 (UTC)
Reuploaded Like deese? Iveh Yo! 07:26, February 12, 2013 (UTC)
The lineart seems thicker...is it just my poor eyesight? x.x Rainlegs 05:26, February 13, 2013 (UTC)
The lineart thickness is two pixils thick all the way around (or it should be, at least) Iveh Yo! 06:34, February 13, 2013 (UTC)
Make the tail just a little longer. It looks stubby. I love these<3333 -Feather 10:31, February 16, 2013 (UTC)
=D The front paw farthest to us is thicker than the rest. It looks puffed up at the wrist. Fix that? CrysI liek Giratinas 20:27, February 17, 2013 (UTC)
Forgive my terminology here; I study rabbit anatomy, not cats, but here goes:
Bring up the hock/ankle joint of the hind foot closest to us up a bit, so the hind foot is at the same tilt as the front paw closest to us. Last, make the top curve on the shoulder a bit shorter and slightly flatter. ➤KnightChasing aftergold mines 01:29, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
Alright, I promise to reupload here in a bit, I'm having a friend of mine help me with this, along with the most recent submissions, and I'll reupload it here very soon. I know it's been 8 days since the last reupload, but if I could just have a little bit of leeway so my friend can help me perfect it, I'd really appreciate it. Iveh Yo! 03:31, February 21, 2013 (UTC)
Reuploaded I'm still waiting for my friend to get back with me but figured I'd go ahead and work with these suggestions anyway to keep it going. Iveh Yo! 02:34, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
Shoulder looks a bit wonky, lineart's too think on the top of the head, the back leg seems curved and almost broken like Cinderpelt's, the front paw closest to us is really thick, while the far one is too straight and thin.
Reuploaded So close...come on...let's get it thereIveh Yo! 05:55, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
The foot was bothering me, and I don't know if this position is right or not (I just uploaded it over my PI) but does this look better than the current way the back foot is positioned? Iveh Yo! 05:48, March 1, 2013 (UTC)
Shorten the far front leg a bit, and, on the closer front, switch that line going into the other from the arm going up to the shoulder going to the side. I think this is almost done and the others can be posted soon. -Raelic (Talk) 07:06, March 2, 2013 (UTC)
Reuploaded Also redid lines in Sai with the binary tool, the lines look much better now! And I'm assuming you meant the second version was better? -is a total derp- Iveh Yo! 05:28, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Yes. The foot in the above is much better. Could you make the far front leg just a liiiiittle thinner? And then I'd say go ahead and post the other three because this is looking amazing. -Raelic (Talk) 05:48, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Reuploaded Just checking in to make sure this is thin enough but not too thin! (fandom secret: son I am excite!) Iveh Yo! 06:06, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, it looks good! Although I meant the foot as in the second version you have directly above. Put that one back on? ^^ -Raelic (Talk) 06:15, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Doh, that was my mistake! I forgot to switch the filename and junk. Iveh Yo! 06:22, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
This looks terrific. Go ahead and post the others. c: -Raelic (Talk) 06:24, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Although, it might be a good idea to archive what's here now. It's getting a bit long. -Raelic (Talk) 06:25, March 5, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry but the jaw seems to jut out just a bit too much right now. It should kind of go in the lower it is. Just a little bit though. And this is preference I guess, but is there any chance you could make the eyes look a bit less angry? Also, could you make the proportions a bit closer to those of the apprentice blanks? These look like fully grown adults mostly instead of clearly young cats.
Reuploaded Kay, I did what you asked, but in looking at the apprentice blank, as well as a kitten to adult growth chart, I've found that most of it was in proportion with a younger cat. Larger ears, bigger eyes. I slimmed down his tummy some but honestly you're going to have to tell me what else is adult like about this. (I'm glad I didn't upload the longhairs in this case) Iveh Yo! 18:44, March 6, 2013 (UTC)
The eyes are on his forehead and his forehead is all bulgy Bramble(talk) 00:16, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
The eyes are not on the forehead or bulgy, I was instructed to make them larger and they are only a few tony little pixils larger than they were Iveh Yo! 01:30, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
Reuploaded Alright, I'm going to be going to my Mom's for a few days and there's a high probability that there will be no Internet. Cloudy said I should go ahead and post all of them. Don't be afraid to crit the anatomy if it is wrong but I'm pretty sure it's close if not already so. The fur on the haunches is bugging me and I have no idea how you did it on the loners, Mountain XD Iveh Yo! 04:22, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
The fur on the chest and tail looks good, but you might thin out how many lines are on the haunches, since it looks a bit weird, and add some fluff on the underbellies. -Raelic (Talk) 05:42, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry, this should have been addressed before uploading the longhairs, but with the position and angle this is at, I don't think the far back leg would be show past the shoulder at all.
Reuploaded Changes are not showing on some of them, dunno about for you guys Iveh Yo! 03:02, March 14, 2013 (UTC)
Well, I'm going to put CBA on these. david 🌈 05:08, March 15, 2013 (UTC)
The back leg is a tad stubby now that I look at it again... and the far back leg should show through the belly in that gap, just not past the shoulder or anything. Point the ends of the fur more so they don't look so round and kinda mop-like, make the lines not go in so far, and add more belly fur and elbow fur. Also, the whiskers that go outside the lineart should angle up more, as if they're running, the wind would be blowing them so they wouldn't just stick straight out.
Reuploaded And I'm sorry but I can't see where it's "stubby". And the fur looks a little sharp to me now but here you goIveh Yo! 23:45, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
I have to disagree about the back leg being stubby. It looks like it is being pulled up, with the muscles bunching, which is exactly what should happen. It would look a bit shorter than normal, especially at the angle these are at and altering that would mess up the proportions. -Raelic (Talk) 23:49, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry but I think the haunch fur is a bit too... even for lack of better word. Most of the fur over there is all the same thickness and length. Try varying it a bit more. And maybe get rid of this reaaally thick spot in the longhair tail lineart?
Honestly, it's fine. It's not going to be perfect, and it looks fine to me. Re-CBA'ing. Appledashthe devil's hand 01:45, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry but I strongly disagree. These are blanks, they're going to be used on a lot of images, it's not like it's just on charart. We should get them as good as possible, and right now, that fur really bugs me because how even it is.
Well I don't know if you noticed but I reuploaded them with said changes anyways and I forgot to mention it. Is it still that bad? ^^; Iveh Yo! 04:16, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
I can see nothing visibly wrong with this image. The highlights, shading, and everything else appear to be in working order, so I'm going to CBA it. For your first black cat, Tai, I'm very impressed~ —Cloud( 19:59, 3/22/2013 )
Sorry to interrupt, but can you add an eye white? I don't see any. Bbunlegs 20:04, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
Eye style is artist's choice. And it looks fine to me, honestly. —Cloud( 20:09, 3/22/2013 )
There's waste, and I don't believe having the white present in some way is artists choice. Neither of these affect the quality of the image, but could you please fix them?
I didn't see any watse but I went over all of the layers anyway. And added eye whites. Thistle. 05:57, March 23, 2013 (UTC)