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Whitestorm - Approved

[[File:Whitestorm.2.png]] After my recent... stupidness with Poppydawn, I have now posted Whitestorm. -- Dawnfeather  11:25, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The only problem I see is that he has amber eyes.Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 17:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks good, but maybe extend the ear pink a little to the left.--Warrior♥Warrior's Palace 18:35, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Changed the eye and ear. What thinks you now? The pictures are the same except one has been burnt over a little bit more.-- Dawnfeather  01:15, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I like the first versian because it loks more white, and the other one looks...gray-ish, kind of. maybe lighten the eye color on the first one.

First one, but the eye is still amber, is that just for me?Minnowclaw 22:28, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The eyes are supposed to be amber. -- Dawnfeather  00:19, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I swear that he has blue eyes. In Into the Wild, it should give a full description of him, I don't have my book handy, can someone check?Minnowclaw 00:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I will, just be a minute.. I went with his page, but you may be right (what Sandwich said earlier was correcting my blue eys.) -- Dawnfeather  02:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

It says that 'his eyes were the yellow of sun-baked sand'/ I could probably make them a bit yellower... -- Dawnfeather  02:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Ya, I just read it too, sorry.Minnowclaw 18:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Just changed the colour of the eye, and un-blurred the little blurred part of the chest. Anything else? -- Dawnfeather  07:31, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't see anything. Any more comments before approval in 24?  Sandy Talk! 14:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

None; approved  Sandy Talk! 11:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thrushwing - Approved

[[File:Thrushwing.warrior.png]]

I did two versions with different shading techniques (for some reason I'm really struggling with warriors at the moment). I think I prefer the first but I'm not sure... Which has the most potential of ever looking good? lol. And what can I do to improve whichever?  Sandy Talk! 20:42, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I like the first one best. -- Dawnfeather  00:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, extend the shading on the belly up so it reaches the back, and soften it out a bit. Soften out the thing on the neck too. The eye also needs a pupil. XD -- Dawnfeather  01:19, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Any better?  Sandy Talk! 19:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Your shading is very nice. She's beautiful. I don't see anything wrong. (I'm saying that a lot as of late :) --Bramble My Realm 19:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Just be sure to turn the bg transparent. Other than that; comments before approval? --Bramble My Realm 22:26, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

She has a white dot on her chest. -- Dawnfeather  07:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Done  Sandy Talk! 13:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Repeating. 24 hrs starting now. --Bramble My Realm 16:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

None, approved. --Bramble My Realm 23:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Loudbelly- Approved

[[File:Loudbelly7.png]]

I hope this is better than my Whitewing...Sandwich989 04:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

He looks fine, but the outline is blurred in a few places, and he could use some highlights. To prevent this (in GIMP, at least) paste TWO images down on two layers, hit 'ctrl' + 'L' to bring up the layers menu, and click on the top layer. Then click on the wand tool and bring it to the white areas and click on delete. Then you have just the lines. Click on the bottom layer, and color that in... If that makes sense xD.-- Darkhallows  Lair 19:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll fix the outlines. But what you said, does it mean I have to start all over? Sandwich989 22:06, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, i have the whole shading thing down, but the last thing i need to know is how to highlight.Sandwich989 22:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

In the program I use (Photoshop), there's a dodge tool, and it looks like a small microphone. Just run that along the edge of the shading and it should produce a nice-looking highlight. --Bramble My Realm 16:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

What program are you using? Oh, and I just noticed there's no head shading.--Warrior♥Warrior's Palace 17:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh dang i forgot head shading! I'll do it right away.Sandwich989 22:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok heres my new one, im not sure if that light line is a highlight, but oh well. And Im not a huge fan of my head shading is ok, but you guys are the experts...Sandwich989 22:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The highlight needs to be blurred some more, and the outline is still blurred in some places, most notably the back of the foreleg and the forehead. Also shrink the ear pink a little and make it a darker pink. Other than that, this is very good and I like the color you chose for his pelt. --Bramble My Realm 15:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok heres the new one.Sandwich989 20:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The highlights still nede to be blended into teh pelt colour a little more and the ear pink needs to be slightly smaller and blended also.  Sandy Talk! 08:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I knew something was wrong with the ear...Sandwich989 14:19, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I lost the color I was using for the fur D:, but I blended in the highlight and rfixed the ear...Sandwich989 16:34, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

This is nice. I think you need to thicken some of the shading though :)  Sandy Talk! 13:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Increase the shading a little, and then fix that blurriness at the right corner of his eye, then I think he'll be ready. This is really good, Sandwich. --Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I (for sure) undid the blurriness around the eye. And (I think) intensified the shading.Sandwich989 17:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Any further comments before approval in 24 hours?  Sandy Talk! 18:36, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

(:Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 20:05, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The eye is very dark. Make it lighter and brighter. -- Dawnfeather  07:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok. But im not on the computer with the gimp I have to do this on Sunday. So make the eye brighter and lighter(?) and it will be ready for approval?Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 01:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, make the edits and it should be good to go :)  Sandy Talk! 14:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok I think I made they eye brighter and lighter..Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 19:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Good. Comments before approval in 22 hours?  Sandy Talk! 11:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

uh... Don't you mean 24? (P.S. I love this.)- Dawnfeather talk! 06:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I meant 24... I have no idea why I wrote 22... lol. Well, it's 22 hours about now so only a couple more to wait!  Sandy Talk! 08:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Approved.  Sandy Talk! 11:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Birdflight - Approved

[[File:Birdflight4.png]] Took a shot at Birdflight after rereading Firestar's Quest. --Gοlδεn pαω 00:45, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I only have one problem with this - the ear is gray. -- Dawnfeather  00:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. --Gοlδεn pαω 00:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

It's still a little too gray. I think it also has to be blended in a bit. -- Dawnfeather  01:17, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, she is light brown, not reddy. -- Dawnfeather  01:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I see what you mean. --Gοlδεn pαω 01:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

If you have fixed the ear, needs to be a little bit more pink, if you haven't NVMMinnowclaw 23:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like this, except that maybe you could paint over that one stripe on the shoulder, as you can see through it a little bit. --Bramble My Realm 16:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the stripe I think you were talking about. --Gοlδεn pαω 21:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Much better. Comments before approval in 24? --Bramble My Realm 23:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

None; approved. --Bramble My Realm 01:48, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (medicine cat) - Approved

[[File:Cinderpelt (medicine cat).PNG]]
If there is anything wrong, please tell me. I want this picture to be perfect. My first medicine cat with the new blanks. In my opinion, Cinderpelt wouldn't look all that great if she was in a thin, slender looking medicine cat blank. The warrior blank suits her because she was supposed to be one... --Mallinois Herding Talk 11:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


She's too dark, as she is only specified as a gray she cat with blue eyes, and fluffy i think too. She is also a tabby. I agree that she has to be perfect, as I am also a great fan of her! -- Dawnfeather  13:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


In the allegiances, it says: Cinderpelt-dark gray she-cat. So she is dark gray, and she's not a tabby, but many times in the books, she has been mentioned with enormous blue-colored eyes. Anything else? (And can someone cite tabby markings if she has any?) Plus, she's long-haired, so that takes care of the fluffy. --Mallinois Herding Talk 13:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


On her actual page, it says that she is a gray tabby. I still don't think she should be so dark though. The ear colour is too bright. -- Dawnfeather  13:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I think she should be a bit lighter and should have tabby stripes as she is supposed to look like Cinderheart who is the reincarnation of her and is a tabby. As for the rest; more blending of the shading to make the colour transitions smoother. Also make the ear pink smaller  Sandy Talk! 16:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


In most of the allegiances she has been in, she's dark gray. If she has tabby markings, someone please provide a direct citation from the books, page number and volume. --Mallinois Herding Talk


Wasn't she identical to Cinderheart?-- Dawnfeather  00:20, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Apologies Mal; I looked for a few references last night and the only descriptions of her within the books were of a grey she-cat. She is said to ahve 'smoky grey fur' on page 65 of the paperback edition of Forest of Secrets. You need to make her a little lighter as she looks almost black here and the shading needs blending. No tabby stripes; that should be removed from her page  Sandy Talk! 12:01, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


Oh, it's fine. I lightend her and changed the ear pink. It may take a while to show up, though. I tried to keep her dark, but not too dark like my last one. --Mallinois Herding Talk 14:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Her colour is better but the ear pink needs to be smaller still as it is kind of almost coming out of her ear at the moment. Also, the shading needs to be blended more still. Try just pulling it towards the middle of the image a bit more with the blur tool.  Sandy Talk! 14:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


Done, but It may be a while before it shows. --Mallinois Herding Talk 15:08, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

She looks pretty good! I like how you did her twisted leg! If you read what my comment originally said, don't worry about lightening her any more. Things at the top of my screen are darker than when they're on the bottom. She looks fine at the bottom of the screen. :) Okay, I'm done rambling. -- Goldencloud  23:26, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


I think that she still needs to be lighter, but it may just be that it's not showing up yet. -- Dawnfeather  23:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I think this looks great, but it might hep to make it a little lighter. Cause on my computer it looks like almost black.Sandwich989 18:31, 14 June 2009 (UTC)


If you see her as dark, try standing up if you can't see some stuff. --Mallinois Timberwolves 22:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

To me her colour looks fine (but I've learned not to trust my computer...). She needs a bit more shading on her near foreleg and neck though  Sandy Talk! 06:37, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed on points above, and also decrease her ear pink a little bit, as it's overlapping the ear a little. --Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


Anything else? (Can't work on it right now, but I'll get to it tommorrow or the next day....) --Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 21:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I've always imagined one of her back legs as being twisted, and her leg looks wierd at a perfect right angle... Other than that, great image! --MUMBLE785 00:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


No, I think it was always her front paw. I looks twisted enough to me. However, I agree with Bramble. - Dawnfeather talk! 12:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


Changed ear pink, though it may be a while to show. --Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 12:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Much better. Comments before approval? --Bramble My Realm 01:59, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

None, approved  Sandy Talk! 09:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Little Mew - Approved

[[File:LittleMew2..png]]

My first kit. -- Dawnfeather  09:58, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I like it. But make the hay colored fur part more like it is in the Graystripe manga one.Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 19:02, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Nice. Lavastream, SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 20:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I haven't read the Graystripe manga series since it first came out, so i have no idea what you mean... -- Dawnfeather  08:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

In the comic he has yellow 'hair'-- Darkhallows  Lair 09:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Can someone show me a pic from the book? -- Dawnfeather  10:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I got creative. Is this what you mean? -- Dawnfeather  06:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't really say, but you will have to change the line art. It's like a little...., fluff. Like, sort of a fluffy Mohawk that moves over to one side. Am I making any sense?!Minnowclaw 22:34, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Sorry, I just looked and it's like hair, or a flatten out Mohawk on both sides, my bad!Minnowclaw 01:37, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I don't know about this one. It looks weird... -- Dawnfeather  02:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

This is directed to anyone who has read the comic. Does it ever really say that the tuft of fur on their head is hay-colored? The mangas are gray, white, and black, and there was no official colored pic of Little Mew or Husker. I mean, how many cats have a gray pelt yet a tawny piece of fur on their heads? I could very well be a lighter shade of gray, or white. It's kinda like Graystripe's muzzle in the manga. It's a lighter shade of gray on the cover, and it's the same color as Little Mew's tuft in the manga. Now, if I should be proved wrong, Dawn, the pic is good, he's very cute, but maybe move the yellow back a bit away from his eyes, and up towards the top of his head. Also, the dark marks on it make it look like macaroni. --Bramble My Realm 03:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

There's a place on the official website that we can ask the authors stuff. Lavastream, SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 17:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

To be honest I just read the hay colored part on his description. Now that I think about it, it can be any color lighter than his pelt color. And Mistyfur, the official website is false so that Ask Erin Hunter thing is most likely false to.Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 20:01, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I made it a light gray. It still doesn't look okay. I'm wondering if this is able to be made good enough to be approved. It's a pretty awkard picture. -- Dawnfeather  07:35, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh he doesn't look awkward. He actually looks really cute now. --Bramble My Realm 16:37, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I like this actually Dawn! I read the manga today to see how they showed him... it was kind of like a massive monobrow sticking out of his head and it wasn't said to be any particular colour, just shown as lighter. I think this looks realistic (well, as realistic as a patch of lighter fur is ever going to look). You've done a good job and I can't see any other problems right now  Sandy Talk! 18:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments before approval in 24 hours?  Sandy Talk! 16:09, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

No comments; approved  Sandy Talk! 15:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Wolfkit - Approved

[[File:Wolfkit.2.png]] I wasn't sure which one to upload first so I went randomly. Runnningkit will be next, then Smallkit. -- Minnowberry   Dawnfeather's Den  06:38, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't see any problems.Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 19:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I got nothing. Lovely. --Bramble My Realm 23:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


Mmmm.... I thought that the shading on her chest was messy, so I spent a while clearing it up. Any thoughts? -- Dawnfeather  talk! 09:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


Her eyes should be blue, since she's a kit. Kits with unknown eye color should hjave blue eyes. --Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 12:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


According to her character page, she has amber eyes. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 12:47, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

If her eyes are said to be amber (do you have a book reference Dawn?) then they should be amber even in kit form  Sandy Talk! 15:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I had read Code of the Clans and it said nothing about Wolfkit's eyes being amber so change the eye color.--Yai-Girl 21:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I changed the eyes. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 08:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments before approval in 24 hours?  Sandy Talk! 15:45, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

None; approved  Sandy Talk! 15:04, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Runningkit - Approved

[[File:Runningkit.3.png]] Runningkit is now uploaded, as I promised. What do you think? - Dawnfeather talk! 12:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading on his neck and around his mouth needs to be smaller :)  Sandy Talk! 18:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better? -- Dawnfeather  talk! 07:08, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Good. I can't see anything else Dawn  Sandy Talk! 10:54, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Should he be lighter? He's only described as brown tabby, and this is more like dark tabby. Other than that he's great. --Bramble My Realm 02:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Lightened him. Anything else? -- Dawnfeather  talk! 07:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Blend the ear pink a little as it's standing out a lot more now you've lightened him  Sandy Talk! 15:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


Blended the ear, made the eyes blue. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 08:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments before approval in 24 hours?  Sandy Talk! 15:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

None; approved  Sandy Talk! 15:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Tornear - Approved

[[File:Tornear.warrior.png]]

Here's the old grey wc tom... he needs to retire soon; younger cats than him are already in the elders' den... lol. Anyway, constructments?  Sandy Talk! 17:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

'Constructments', Sandy? ;) Well, the only thing I see is that he's tabby. And I know this for sure. His description in the allegiance has always been tabby tom, and it said in the books somewhere that he was gray. Those are my constructments. XD --Bramble My Realm 17:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Constructments - comments/constructive critisism (quicker to write lol). I am such a mouse brain. I'll go fetch him some markings :)  Sandy Talk! 18:55, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED I added tabby markings but they might not be showing yet.  Sandy Talk! 19:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, that makes sense now. Your tabby stripes look great. I don't see anything else wrong. He looks just as I pictured Tornear, except with a more irate expression on his face. --Bramble My Realm 12:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the constructments Bramble :p Is there anything else anyone?  Sandy Talk! 19:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Your welcome, Sandy. :) Comments before approval? --Bramble My Realm 01:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

None; approved  Sandy Talk! 15:08, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Kestrelwing - Approved

[[File:Kestrelwing for approval.png]]What do you think of him? Did I spell his name correctly?Minnowclaw 01:47, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I actually really like this effect. My only suggestion would be to put in a pupil into the eye! :D -- Dawnfeather  06:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


The tabby markings need to be wavy like Echosong's, smooth y's like Leafpool, or jagged y's like Brownpaw's. Triangle tabby is, mentioned by Kitsufox, cartoony, and I use Kitsu's judgement on tabby. Mallinois

I darkened the pelt a bit and tried new markings.Minnowclaw 14:15, 18 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like his colour and these markings are along the right lines but they are very squiggly; perhaps straighten them a little and make sure they are everywhere.  Sandy Talk! 18:13, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about not putting a new one up soon. I couldn't get it just right, but now I'm happy with the work.Minnowclaw 14:27, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Ooops! I forgot the ear, L.O.L!Minnowclaw 14:52, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks like he has a miniature sun on his flank...  Sandy Talk! 16:20, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The markings look a bit...fat. Try blending them more.--Warrior♥Warrior's Palace 18:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Good?Minnowclaw 23:01, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like it but put a pupil in the eye.Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 19:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 21:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It still doesn't look like it has one. The way I do it is one make a backwards looking utah where the color is now and do a white pixel in the corner of the color. I'm sorry if its wrong Im forgettful right now.Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 01:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I got a little bit confused, what about this?Minnowclaw 01:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

lol The markings are very... spindly now, perhaps increase the width by a pixel or two. Also, the ear pink is too bright and needs blending.  Sandy Talk! 14:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I made it one pixel bigger and I think it looks, odd. Which one is better?Minnowclaw 15:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like your new version, but your eye needs to be done like on your first image. Also, the tail looks... flat. Add maybe a highlight and/or shading to it. --Bramble My Realm 23:29, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Is that good?Minnowclaw 00:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like it but the ear pink is still really... obvious.  Sandy Talk! 11:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this a better color?Minnowclaw 19:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Try and make a dullish red instead of purple. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 13:41, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better?Minnowclaw 15:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It needs blending in  Sandy Talk! 15:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

This better?Minnowclaw 21:44, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks bloodred now. Make it a shade of dark pink. --Bramble My Realm 22:49, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 23:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnnowclaw

Yep. This is really good. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 04:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't see anything else. Well done Minnow; you've worked really hard on this. Comments before approval in 24 hours?  Sandy Talk! 09:27, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

None; approved  Sandy Talk! 12:19, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Deputy blanks - Approved

DeputyLongFemaleDeputyLongMaleDeputyShortFemaleDeputyShortMaleYes, I edited the warrior blanks, but when you think about it, they wouldn't look any different. I put the tail down because it said most young warriors and apprentices had their tails strait up in excitement and I thought that when a cat was the deputy, they would look wiser so I put the tail laying down. I put the front foot behind the pic because maybe they had put a cat for the hunting patrol and dawn patrol and was frustrated and hit the ground. Feel free to hate it...Minnowclaw 22:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I like how you changed the paw, but i think that the old tail looks better. -- Dawnfeather  00:15, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Should I put it back to normal or can you give me tips to make it better?Minnowclaw 00:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I think that you should probably put the tails back to normal. It's hard to make realistic tails. Exanding on what I said earlier, the paw makes them look comanding, and busy. (That is a good thing) -- Dawnfeather  02:29, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I actually think the tails look good down... it further makes them look different from the warrior blanks and also is a pose that just looks dignified. I don't know. Dawn, let's see what some others think. I could be overrided. --Bramble My Realm 03:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Minnowclaw and Bramble. Lavastream, SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 12:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Should I just wait or is there something I can work on now?Minnowclaw 18:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

To further more make it different, I put the ear down, was it better the first time?Minnowclaw 19:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Keep them up. When their ears are down it makes them looks submissive and less like a deputy. Also more resembles a puppy. --Bramble My Realm 19:35, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I like these but I the shorthaired look like they're sitting on their tails...  Sandy Talk! 19:46, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh yeah. Move the tails up a pixel, so they're partially covering the paws. (Sandy, if you read this, get on the IRC. :) --Bramble My Realm 19:50, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better?Minnowclaw 21:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


The paw up like that is a good idea, but I don't like it. It looks like The leg on Cinderpelt that I crippled. --Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 21:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Yours was completely bent backward, where here you can see a curve. They don't look the same. Minnowclaw, not that much. :) Keep the size of the tail the same and just move it up one pixel over the paws. You know, just sort of skim the bottom off. And one if the pics still has an ear down. --Bramble My Realm 21:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Good?Minnowclaw 22:19, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Yeah, lots better. Anyone else have anything? --Bramble My Realm 22:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The tails on the shorthaired are bothering me. They're too straight, almost nothing is perfectly straight in nature. Curve the tail a little bit. Like the longhaired one, just don't make it as thick. :) --Goldencloud 23:31, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Better?Minnowclaw 00:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Much better! --Goldencloud 03:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


The shorthair's tail still looks to strait at the point where it bends. -- Darkhallows  Lair 07:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The tail is like at a right angle. Maybe make it a bit more curved instead. -- Minnowberry   Dawnfeather's Den  10:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Good?Minnowclaw 15:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It's better, but it could be a little more curved. -- Minnowberry   Dawnfeather's Den  06:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, but this is as far as it goes now.Minnowclaw 15:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Better. Something about that bent leg's bothering me though... it looks like it's really thin and flexible... like plastocine...  Sandy Talk! 18:34, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps on the curved leg, you could make the straight line that makes up the far edge a bit more curved? Just to see how it looks. --Bramble My Realm 23:23, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

But that would make it a half circle, sort of... I'll try it.Minnowclaw 00:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

What about this?Minnowclaw 19:41, 24 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

They both look fine to me, but we'll see how Sandy likes the new ones. --Bramble My Realm 01:29, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Lol. Much better. I like these now. Sorry for being so picky, but it was really bothering me!  Sandy Talk! 15:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Hang on - are you sure these are the right version of the shorthaired as the tails are back to being weird and the leg hasn't changed on the shorthaired ones. The longhaired are great though  Sandy Talk! 16:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, my bad. I put it back to the old one and fixed the foot. Good?Minnowclaw 21:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Yep, good by me  Sandy Talk! 21:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval in 24 hrs? --Bramble My Realm 22:43, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

None; approved  Sandy Talk! 12:22, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Snowfur - Approved

Snowfur.warrior

Tried a new shading style with her. I'm not sure if I like it. What do you guys think? --Bramble My Realm 17:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Try making the shading a tad bit darker.Minnowclaw 18:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Made the shading a touch darker. Anything else? --Bramble My Realm 22:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Aaaa, hmm..., I got nothin'.Minnowclaw 22:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It looks beautiful! I'd say it's ready for approval now. --Goldencloud 23:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I like her too, but wasn't she long haired? -- Minnowberry   Dawnfeather's Den  08:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

People edit our articles, and sometimes they are wrong. I can't find anywhere that says she's longhaired in the books. However, I did find in the BP excerpt that she has gray ear tips, so I'll change those. --Bramble My Realm 15:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

She could use more shading on her back and a little on her stomach area.-- ♪Shimmer 01:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Added some more shading and gray ear tips. --Bramble My Realm 12:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


You need to blend that gray part in more. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 12:04, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't very happy with them, so I made them a touch lighter and blended more. And Dawn, sorry if I offended you by snapping after you asked if she was long-haired. It was a reasonable question, and I was very tired so I snapped. I'm sorry. --Bramble My Realm 01:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually I heard that Snowfur was long-haired she-cat.User:Stonestar

Can you give me a page number? --Bramble My Realm 02:18, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry, I wasn't offended. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 06:05, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


' I could feel the cold blasts of wintry air in the forest world, although they could not pierce my thick white fur. ' Secrets of the Clans, pg 77. It Implies that she has long fur. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 07:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... I guess I always regarded thick fur as like dense fur, and not necassarily long fur. But just to make you guys happy I've redone her as longhaired. How does she look now? --Bramble My Realm 21:00, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Make the shading on her chest a little bit stronger on the outside. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 06:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

She could use a little more shading on her back-- ♪Shimmer 20:22, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

More shading added in both areas. --Bramble My Realm 22:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


Okay, this is really nice. I think it should be approved. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 23:35, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yep. Comments before approval in 24 hours?  Sandy Talk! 09:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

None; approved  Sandy Talk! 12:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Toadfoot - Approved

Toadfoot.warrior

Thought I may as well complete the trio, so here's the only one of her litter to actually become a warrior... shame as I quite fancied Birchfall/Applekit having a cross-clan friendship! lol Comments?  Sandy Talk! 12:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)


I think that the eye marking should be more of a wave, extended a bit further too. (My cat encyclopedia and my tabby cat all have the 'bout inch and a half long wave from the eye on a tabby). More forbidden love? I agree though, they would be sweet together. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 12:48, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

yes, more forbidden love. I agree that it's overused by this is different... not just a love at first sight kinda love (bleh) but a friendship + something more kinda love. That's what the Clans are missing. That would be a forbidden love that we haven't yet seen (I mean there wasn't even any evidence for spottedxfire... I never saw it coming and didn't even realise they loved each other until after she died.) Anyway, I'll take that to the forum lol. I changed the eye marking.  Sandy Talk! 13:31, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make him more darker? He's (I think) described as a dark brown tabby tom. BUt other than that I think this is amazing.Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 19:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, when I checked the Allegiances, he's described as just a dark brown tom. :) I also checked in the actual book. This is kind of ironic, Tornear needed stripes and Toadfoot has stripes he doesn't need. So Sandy, take out the tabby stripes, even though they look great. --Bramble My Realm 01:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Ahh... I'm gonna stop trusting the articles on here for descriptions... :( I'll get onto it asap  Sandy Talk! 15:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, asap is now. Done  Sandy Talk! 15:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks awesome but there's a grey color outside the lineart. It's by the tail.--Warrior♥Warrior's Palace 19:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. (I really need to sort myself out, I'm getting slack! lol) I'd forgotten to make it transparent and get rid of the smudging from the burn tool. It's sorted now, thanks Warrior  Sandy Talk! 21:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The shading looks really odd, and un-smooth.Minnowclaw 21:49, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Maybe you're right Minnowberry. Sleep deprivation is clouding my judgement right now. I'll work on him tomorrow as it's ten to 11 here (pm) and I've bene up since half five... I'll sort him out tomorrow. Thanks  Sandy Talk! 21:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

There is still a smudge behind the tail. Did you mean Minnowclaw, as Minnowberry was one of my favourite RP character names and I had it in my sig for aa bout half an hour? (You did say you were tired) -- Dawnfeather  talk! 08:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes I meant Minnowclaw, sorry Dawn. The line should be gone as I made the whole background transparent and I've just double checked to make sure. I don't think the upload is showing properly yet (it does that sometimes). I am tired; not as much as I was though. I'll just go and sort his blending now  Sandy Talk! 08:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

REUPLOADED Better?  Sandy Talk! 09:11, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


Yes, much. There is a strong line of shading on the neck which needs smoothing out. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 09:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I've blended it as much as is possible now I think.  Sandy Talk! 14:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


That part is good now. The highlight on the shoulder needs to be brought slightly higher and further back. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 14:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Better?  Sandy Talk! 15:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Make him a tad darker. More like Snaketail's color. He looks just normal brown to me. (Oh, and Sand, don't press yourself too hard, get some sleep tonight. You fainting at the computer from lack of sleep would not be good. ;) --Bramble My Realm 22:26, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Done. It may take a few minutes to show. (And thanks Bramble. I did get more sleep last night... I'm ashamed to say I woke up at 9am this morning... lol)  Sandy Talk! 09:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Beautiful. Anymore comments before approval? GB57 15:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

None; approved. --Bramble My Realm 19:21, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

White-eye - Approved

[[File:White-eye.PNG]] He she is. Meh, this drawing was way to easy. I would love to get Blossomkit up... because she REALLY needs help. But meh... that can wait.-- Darkhallows  Lair 21:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


She looks nice. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 09:03, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't see any problems. Nice work  Sandy Talk! 14:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

It looks great, Darkhallows. I love how you did the eye. Comments before approval? --Bramble My Realm 01:22, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The highlight spot on the shoulder goes too close to the chest at the bottom. The bit on the neck doesn't look entirely right to me either. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 11:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


I know she's called white-eye, but could you add very pale color to the eye? It looks lifeless now. --Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 16:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The eye is supposed to be. From her description it seems her eye is 'dead'. I once met someone who had an eye like that. He had stabbed it on something... I don't know the whole story. In the end though, it was white. I changed the highlight though.-- Darkhallows  Lair 23:44, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

It says in the books that one of her eyes was clouded and sightless... so yeah, I would agree that the eye looks alright as it is. --Bramble My Realm 22:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Any more comments before approval in 24 hours?  Sandy Talk! 15:09, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I love it, I really do, but doesn't White-eye become One-eye, and therefore she'd be considered an elder? Mosswisker&Stealthfire 18:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Moss, this is her warrior version. We're eventually hoping to have pixels for every rank every character has ever held.  Sandy Talk! 19:41, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - My bad. I was still half asleep when I was typing that, to be honest. *Sweat drop* Mosswisker&Stealthfire 00:55, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Comments said were unnecessary to the image; approved. --Bramble My Realm 18:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Mousefur- Approved

[[File:Elder Mousefur(2).png]] I have NO clue how or why this was deleted. My internet was down and I couldn't get on to fix it. Can I please keep working on it?! Minnowclaw 23:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It was probably deleted because it hadn't been worked on in a certain amount of time. :) I think she looks good, except she needs more shading. Goldencloud 00:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Can I still work on it? If so, where should I put more shading?Minnowclaw 02:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Of course you can still work on her - she was taken down due to lack of work but nobody knew it was because you couldn't get onto the computer. If that ever happens feel free to resubmit as you have done here. As for the image itself: More shading could be put on the head and it all needs to be a bit bigger if you ask me. Blend all your shading and perhaps change the ear colour as it's kind of purplish. You could also try a highlight on the back to add dimension by using the lighten tool.  Sandy Talk! 08:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Which one do you think is better? Minnowclaw 22:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The first one looks better because the second one with the highlight doesn't match the fur color at all. If that's a highlight anyway. It looks sort of brownish-pinkish.-- ♪Shimmer 23:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

K anything else?Minnowclaw 23:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

She's better, but the ear pink is too light and it stands out. I suggest using this color or something near: [[File:Pixel.png|10px]] Also add shading on the foreleg and hind leg curve. She's very good otherwise. --Bramble My Realm 02:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Does that pink look better? Minnowclaw 21:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

PLEASE, give me all the notes on it you can. I know it's not perfect!Minnowclaw 14:28, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The ear is better but some of the shading is rather smudgy.  Sandy Talk! 14:48, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

What parts are sumdgy?Minnowclaw 16:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The tail and back. It's not so much smudgy as... unsmooth... if that makes sense  Sandy Talk! 16:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't know what you mean.Minnowclaw 22:35, 20 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Just blur the tail and back some, and they will look smoother. --Bramble My Realm 22:06, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it looks different, but I did that.Minnowclaw 22:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

That looks better, but your ear went back to that bright shade of pink. Change it back. --Bramble My Realm 23:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I couldn't find the other one, better? Minnowclaw 00:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Oh please comment! This needs to be done before I go to camp!Minnowclaw 15:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I don't know, I think it looks fine, except for maybe some shading on the near foreleg. Other than that, you've done a great job on Mousefur. --Bramble My Realm 16:34, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed that, and thanks Bramble!Minnowclaw 14:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Extend it some more out along the tail, so shading is along the whole foreleg and not just on the corner. And you're welcome. --Bramble My Realm 01:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this better?Minnowclaw 02:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

In th eprocess of your shading, the lineart has been blurred in a few places, namely the hind leg curve, the far foreleg line, some of the tail, and some of the back. Fix this, then I believe she will be ready. --Bramble My Realm 22:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I did my best to fix it.Minnowclaw 23:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

NOTE: I will be away for the next two weeks when I go to camp. Please do not decline this pic. Also, please keep commenting on the pic, (or approve it) -winks-. Thank You!Minnowclaw 23:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Well, I added transparency, because for some reason the bg was showing up gray for me (don't know if it was my cp or not, but I changed it anyway) I think this looks great. Comments before approval? --Bramble My Realm 18:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I have a question. When this is approved how are we going to go about arranging the images on her character page (she is the first character to have dual rank images) Bramble?  Sandy Talk! 20:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Good question, Sandy. Here's what I figured, or something like it. Go here to see my idea. If you have a better idea on how it could work feel free to edit it. --Bramble My Realm 22:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

No comments on improvement; approved. --Bramble My Realm 23:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Brindleface - Approved

Brindleface.warrior

Brindleface and Patchfoot are back! If I would've known the computer would've been fixed so soon, I wouldn't have withdrawn them. I played with the eye quite a bit, and the only way I found to kind of make it stand out was to saturate it like crazy. So that's why it looks like web-color lime green. :) --Goldencloud 18:05, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me. I can tell it's green now. --Bramble My Realm 18:19, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I love those markings. They're so smooth. Way to go Goldencloud! Mosswisker&Stealthfire 18:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I can't see anything wrong. Any more comments before approval in 24 hours?  Sandy Talk! 16:25, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


Wow. Goldencloud, how do you do tabby markings like that? --Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 16:54, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

None for improvement; approved  Sandy Talk! 15:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

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