On the "characters needing art" page it said they needed a bracken alt, which might mean the alternate kit version, but I'm not sure so I'll post this anyways. ∗Dewstar(leaf)∗~Iamnoillusion...~ 18:08, January 20, 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. I know it looks like his current kit image, but I made it on photoshop (I didn't copy it). I wasn't sure what the "bracken" meant. I'll make it lighter momentarily. ∗Dewstar(leaf)∗~Iamnoillusion...~20:41, January 20,2012 (UTC)
I know I am not a part of the project, but if you don't know what "bracken colored" means, then you shouldn't do that charart. Chez
Dethumbed. Rename the file Oakheart.kit.alt.png. Bracken colored is along the lines of this: If you use photoshop, use the eye-dropped tool to pick a color and use that as your base color. ScarletwindWibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey stuff… 00:21, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
Light source looks a little bit, confused Leafy ♫Absolutemaniac♪,18:37,January 21,2012 (UTC)
I know what bracken looks like! I just wasn't sure what they meant by bracken on the characters needing art page. I'm going to use the colours from the alternate warrior version so that it looks the same. I'll also fix the lines around the muzzle and tail ASAP. ∗Dewstar(leaf)∗~Iamnoillusion...~22:01, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
You should save it as a .png, not a .jpg, so the background will be transparent and there won't be waste pixels around the image. --Leafstrike-- 02:10, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
It has to be png for more reasons than just that, so yes, change that. And rename this Oakheart.kit.alt.png. Also, be a bit more patient. Don't ask for comments unless you've been waiting a day or two and nobody's CBA'd or commented on it. PaleLegs♪Be prepared...♪ 23:58, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
Minorly fixed heading, it still looks really pixely. Ivyheart=P 04:22, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that's cause it was saved as a jpg at first. I'm sorry, but there's not much way to fix that without redoing, so I think that's what you'll have to do. Sorry.
Ship it 16:14, January 25, 2012 (UTC)
What do you mean exactly? You've got one week before a chararts declined, it's been 6 days. Just cause you have that long till you can reupload doesn't mean you should take the whole time. If you're still working on this, reupload it then. This will be declined if it's not uploaded by tomorrow.
Ship it 18:00, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
I can't tell where your light source is still. It looks like a highlight on the chest. Define your lightsource please. Sweetflower01:10 Sat Feb 4
The light source is kinda coming from the front. If you look at all the other kit images, (especially Bluestar's) they look pretty much the same. --∗Dewstar(leaf)∗~Iamnoillusion...~ 02:03, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
There's blurred lineart on the face and the shading still isn't right. It looks really flat and the light source doesn't make much sense. Look at the apprentice tutorials?
Ship it 20:29, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
If you want to copy the Bluestar kit image's light source, you'll need to have shading on the neck, forehead, edges of the face, legs/paws, back/waist, and near the base of the tail. If you want to, add a big highlight on the midriff/chest, on the face, and on the tail tip. Look here for some shading placement. do you use the dodge tool for highlights/burn tool for the shading? If yes, I suggest you make a new layer for highlights/shading and draw on your light source with a black/white pencil. Then guassion blur it. I can help you if you like. ~DJCandyFun~I do enjoy fun...8D05:57, Mon, Feb, 6, 2012
Still workin' on this? —jaycedream on 20:51, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
Yep, still working on this. (And no, I don't use the dodge tool for highlights, I use the gradient tool. I don't think I need help, DJ CandyBud, but thanks for asking) Re-Uploaded --∗Dewstar(leaf)∗~Iamnoillusion...~ 21:30, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
I thought because she and barley rn from bloodclan but...Acornleaf 21:04, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
Actually, that's not half bad of a point. She and her brother did attempt to flee from BloodClan - so, how exactly would that still make them BloodClan cats? I don't think that automatically means Violet qualifies for the rank of rogue, either. —jaycedream on 21:09, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
If she was no other rank and was not violent, such as the point I made with Sasha, then I sincerely believe she would get a loner image. Besides, she doesn't seem like the type to be a rogue and she was forced to be a BloodClan cat against her will. Iveh Yo! 23:11, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
I never really thought all of BloodClan should have rogue blanks for that very reason. It's not like all of them chose to be in BloodClan. I'm not sure how to solve that problem though....
Ship it 15:41, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
We made apprentice images for cats who we simply mentioned having a mentor. I havn't read the manga but if there was a point after Violet left the Bloodclan and before she became a kittypet and she wasn't at all involved in Bloodclan affairs, then I think she would qualify for one. MΘυητɣTheAftermathIsSecondary 05:38, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
As far as I know, she didn't actually participate in the affairs of BloodClan. If anything, she was forced to do it, if she did. It's been a while since I've read anything concerning Violet. But, I think this is another Sasha-like ordeal. —jaycedream on 05:40, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
I think she should get both, she was part of Bloodclan and they are bad even if she was forced she should get one. She escaped for a little while=loner. WildfireMistystar's Omen! 21:22, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
Please work on this or it will be declined. —jaycedream on 20:18, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
May I take it? Leafy ♫Absolutemaniac♪, 21:02,February 14,2012 (UTC)
Go for it. I was going to decline it anyways. —jaycedream on 21:06, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
Can you define the shading a little? And on chat last night, we agreed Brook should be either tweaked or redone becase she needs more stripes on her body. On her back leh leg and face especially. Would you be fine with doing that? :) Great work by the way Iveh Yo! 18:42, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
It looks like the lineart's blurred too. oblivionAudience? 19:23, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
The ear-pink is in the wrong side of the ear where we can see it (edit conflicts! How dare it!) Raineh Has returned :D 19:25, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded Sorry, that was me with the conflicts. Changes not showing. I think the earpink should be forward. Just looks more natural to me. BluestarLeaf flying in the wind 19:35, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Try matching the stripes with the warrior version, as in, less smudging, and thicker stripes. Also make the shading more noticable while not overdoing it. So far, nice work! Atelda 00:40, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Atelda, I told her she could change the stripes because on chat we agreed Brook needed more stripes. Iveh Yo! 02:51, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Can you have the smudging go in the direction of her fur a little more and darken the shading? Leggo 🏈 03:57, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
The fur smudging still isn't going in the direction of the fur. And this actually has less stripes than the other images, so add more. They also look kinda unnatural, like they're paintbrush strokes, not stripes. And try looking at a reference of a swirled tabby to make it more realistic. And if her stripes are gonna be redone anyways, there's no need to keep the color of the other images, so can you make the base coat less ginger?
Ship it 17:57, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Can you lighten it a lot? It's too dark right now. And the stripe pattern still doesn't look very realistic, it looks like brush strikes instead of stripes.
Ship it 16:23, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
The very first tabby style you uploaded was good. You might want to go back to that style. But instead of rounded point ends, make them narrow out into points a bit (if that makes sense) MΘυητɣTheAftermathIsSecondary 03:04, February 4, 2012 (UTC)
It's been a week since this was last uploaded. Declining this and any user without a current project may take over if they wish. oblivionAudience? 02:56, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
Ooh, I'll take over~ I've always wanted to do one of Brook's images. XD
Ship it 03:44, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded - Though it may not look like it, the stripe match exactly from the preyhunter. Oblivion sent me the xcf cause it's hard t see through the mud. Comments?
Ship it 16:27, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
Fallow's reservation ran out, so I snatched this up. According to the category page, this is the last apprentice image needing to be redone (but there could be more without categories). Woo! Comments? Shelly For a limited time only 15:36, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps make the stripes fade out a bit more like the elder and I believe the nose should be grey. Brilliant job like always, Shellheart. Atelda 00:17, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
The elder image shouldn't be on the redo list, the warrior is getting tweaked by simply putting shorthair lineart over the old image, so the elder one doesn't need to be redone. I'm removing it now, so could you make this match the elder now?
Ship it 05:00, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I was the one who was supposed to do that, I forgot to post it XD Problem solved. Bloo!yo 05:06, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
Aww, dang it. The warrior image looked so much better than the elder image. (sigh) Fine, I'll do it. Shelly For a limited time only 15:59, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
All the colors are from his elder image Mountain o3o it just has shading on it. If someone else agrees I'll change it. I'll try to upload sometime today ~Pouncey!"Aloha!" "You're Hawaiian?""No..."x3 21:12, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
I agree. Shading or not, it's still too dark. And can you make the earpink less gray?
Ship it 04:53, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
Like a middle manager! >8D But really, convo for this is on the talk page. I edited the lineart to make her not-pregnant looking... so essentially, behold my image of Squirrelflight laying down! Comments? Shelly For a limited time only 00:27, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
Lovely! ^^ Can you blur all the stripes a bit actually? And as for the lineart, it seems a bit like her chest is sticking out a bit too much at the bottom. Like there's flab or something. Could you get rid of the little bit? :)
Ship it 00:35, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. I trimmed her down a bit more. Her back wouldn't be arching so much when she isn't pregnant or nursing. And I would add more stripes, but that'd deviate from her already established design. Shelly For a limited time only 02:24, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but can you move her pupil more to the centre? She looks like she's freaked out about something beside her xD Other than that, beautiful. oblivionAudience? 02:41, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
I'd actually rather leave them as is. I kinda wanted to make her look guilty, and I guess freaked out works as well. Shelly For a limited time only 03:38, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
Well all righty then c: Tear her ear. oblivionAudience? 03:39, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. 04:15, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
Smooth out that lump in the middle of her back and raise her hindquarters. Breezewhisker 05:29, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
That was badly phrased. Sorry. But I kinda meant to like make the hindquarters more rounded. I'd think with the lack of the belly, her weight would shift to lie less on her stomach and more on her haunches. Can you kinda see what I mean with this guy? I certainly don't envy you with this tweak. XD The anatomy changes a lot in a pregnant cat.. Breezewhisker 06:04, February 3, 2012 (UTC)
Could you make the bump on the haunch a bit flatter? Don't remove it, but just make it less protruding. Make the chest curve in a bit more and add some shaggy hair to it. llwildheart™l23:58 Mon Feb 6
Re-Uploaded. I'm not re-adding the bit of shaggy fur going inder the front leg, since it's representational of a fat fold pregnant cats get. Shelly For a limited time only 23:41, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
The neck seems a bit fat, could you thin it a bit?
Ship it 16:13, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
Ffff, I just curved it out because Wildheart asked me to. =_= Fine, I'll this it out... again... Shelly For a limited time only 20:52, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
Re-Uploaded. I trimmed out the neck and fluffed up the tail. Please don't ask me to trim out the chest as well. She does have a ribcage, you know. Shelly For a limited time only 17:45, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry but the neck still curves out like this; (. It should curve in like this; ). And the chest should be trimmed out. She may have a chest, but in cats, it's much farther back and doesn't stick out like that.
Ship it 03:06, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
Nope. Sorry, but have you looked at a cat lately? Cats, especially wild ones, have a lot of loose skin even when they're thin. I'd rather leave her as is. I think she looks fine, especially considering the fact that the queens are always fed more than the rest of the Clan. Shelly For a limited time only 14:57, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
Squirrelqueen looks fine to me. CBA? —jaycedream on 22:38, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry to disagree, but if she's not pregnant, she wouldn't have that much fat around her neck and chest. And if you look at a cat's anatomy, the ribs are way back compared to this. And the neck shouldn't curve out like that. And using the excuse that she would have fat cause she's fed more, we should just use the normal blank, as she would be fat, and that's not what we're doing. So please fix it?
Ship it 07:58, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
No, Paleh. If I thinned out her neck to curve in she'd look like a foreign cat, and she is decidedly not one. She's a moggie, and all but foreign cats have very little neck in the first place and they tend to look a little round when they're laying down. She looks perfectly natural. If you don't believe me, just look at this recumbant non-pregnant cat here. Cats have a lot of loose skin, and when they lay down this is how they look. Now, I'm continuing my CBA. Shelly For a limited time only 14:38, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
Fine, don't thin out the curve, but at least smooth it, it's bumpy and uneven, like her chest is sticking out from more than just flab. And smooth the haunch juuust a tad. And also blur the stripes a bit.
Ship it 15:16, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
If I smooth it out it'll be even fatter looking. I've smoothed the haunch as much as I can without it being back to the was it was before I was told previously to make it stick out more, and the stripes match her other images, so they're staying. Shelly For a limited time only 15:20, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
No it won't. It's plenty possible to smooth it out and keep it thin looking. If anything, in my opinion, it looks fatter this way. And the stripes do not match, they're more blurred on her warrior image.
Ship it 15:36, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. Fine. I smoothed out the neck and blurred the stripes even more (though they matched the apprentice and kit chararts fine). But I'm not touching that leg, I like how it looks, and it's my right to say no to a critique like that. Shelly For a limited time only 21:35, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
Ummm...can I comment on the lineart? If so, where the back meets the haunch is really sharp and unatural. Also blur the stripes a bit more, maybe darken the shaging. Lovely as always. SandyI thinkDaddy'smy slave!
01:14, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
That's her knee joint, it's perfectly natural. The stripes are blurred as much as I will go while still matching the other chararts, and the shading it at the exact same level as the apprentice charart. Shelly For a limited time only 14:39, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
doesn't look very natural to me... The stripes don't match the other images, they should be blurred more, I agree with Sand, and just cause the shading opacity works on one image, doesn't mean it works on a completely different blank. And just pointing this out, at this point, you're basically saying you refuse to change anything. Everything that needs to be changed you won't do.
Ship it 20:55, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for butting in, Paleh, but technically, Shelly doesn't have to /do/ anything. It's stated in the guidelines that an artist doesn't always have to do what's asked of them. If they don't want to go with a suggestion, they don't have to. *is shot* —jaycedream on 20:58, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
I know. And that's fine, I'm just pointing out that she's choosing not to change pretty much anything on this image, and that just didn't seem completely right in my opinion... *shrugs* You're right though, it is her choice.
Ship it 04:24, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
I've changed it plenty. But thanks.
I merely refuse to take out her hip joint or blur her stripes into non-existence. I've been CBA'd twice and you've revoked it twice based on things that I'd established that I was not going to change because I don't feel I should for both the sake of realism and consistency. I'm not the one being stubborn here, you are. Shelly For a limited time only 14:01, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
Woah there Shelly, not trying to start anything here. Just pointing out that you were refusing to change everything that needed to be fixed, despite mote than one person asking you to. And it was more than just those two things. But if the other SMs agree, then fine, go ahead an start the CBA again. I just thought those things should be fixed, because, whether you believe they should be changed or not, I fully do, but as Cloudy pointed out, I guess it is your choice, so whatever. I just wanted her image to be the best it could.
Ship it 18:21, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, let's try and not kill each other, please. I'm just going to CBA this, since Shelly's already established her stance on the matter, and in the end, it always has been and always will be artist's choice. CBA? —jaycedream on 19:13, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Look, I'm sorry, I just don't like it when people try to force me to make changes I don't want to make. But I re-uploaded, anyway. Shelly For a limited time only 00:57, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
First loner image and first image for approval made on GIMP. I love GIMP now though. Any way, here he is! Comments? Raineh Has returned :D 19:19, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Lighten the shading and tone down the highlights. Excellent! oblivionAudience? 19:21, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. I swear, one more edit conflict and i shall lose it. Any way, i gave him the wrong eye color (don't ask how) So I fixed that also. Comments? Raineh Has returned :D 19:35, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Define the scar. This is lovely daddy! Sweetflower19:41 Mon Jan 30
Re-uploaded. I have been discovered! Oh noes! Pshaw, comments? Raineh Has returned :D 19:46, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Define the scar some more and make it the same colour as the earpink. --Leafstrike-- 20:50, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. Nyeh, scar. Your lucky i have the .xcf file Comments? Raineh Has returned :D 21:00, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
The scar looks over-blurred and too dark. Try something like I did with Snowtuft, ask me if you want to know how I did it Iveh Yo! 03:25, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
Actually, considering the fact that this cat has long fur, the most he'd probably have there is scar fur unless the scar was sticking wayyyy out, so this looks fine. CBA? Shelly For a limited time only 17:29, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded Silverhmm 23:21, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
I don't see anything wrong with this. CBA? Iveh Yo! 00:01, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
Wait Ivy, sorry, there is waste around, erase it please. Leafy ♫Absolutemaniac♪,20:59,February 14,2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded Waste has nothing to do with the actual charart Leaf. I've seen images approved with waste on them. Silverhmm 22:22, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, that's true, but it did need to be pointed out. So continuing CBA where it left off since it was just waste.
Ship it 10:31, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to interrupt, but could you make the smudgies more defined? Right now it looks like you smudged and then blurred them a lot: they're really fuzzy and look odd. Could you redraw the lines between the colours and re-smudge them? It just looks really messy. llwildheart™l02:42 Thu Feb 16
Reuploaded I only blurred once. Silverhmm 12:06, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
I think the black needs to be lightened a tad. I'm having a really hard time telling it apart from the lineart. —jaycedream on 04:56, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to wait for another opinion on that Skye. Personally I can see the lineart just fine. Silverhmm 12:35, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with Cloudy. Lighten it just a bit.
Ship it 15:11, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
ReuploadedSilverhmm 17:41, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded Sorry that I didn't get to post this sooner, I got sick. x.x Darkened the shading, and in my opinion, the flecks are fine but if anyone else agrees, I'll blur them. ☯Mistypebble☯ 19:17, February 14, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, but Moonshine, you didn't put it in the proper column, so Stoneclaw had NO idea you had it reserved. No offense, but it's your careless mistake. —jaycedream on 22:29, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded. @Moonshine, sorry but I always look at the right column. You made the mistake, and I don't look at the wrong columns, so if you make a mistake, I can't do anything about that. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 02:21, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Define the tail and right front paw shading. Just seems a little dark is all. Otherwise, this is amazing. As always, cousin o' mine.
ThistleOh,theimplications.♥♥♥ 3:15, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
I think you should give him a couple scars on his face. I know we normally assume that scars are obtained while a cat is a warrior, but considering his name... Well, yeah. Might just be me. Shelly For a limited time only 00:56, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
Well, there isn't any proof, so I won't. Sorry, but it would probably just get removed, like Tornear's torn ear, because it was based on assumption based on the name. ∗Mistystar∗Trust the Fire Within... 01:02, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, for all we know, he could've gotten the warrior name Clawfoot. Can you blur the back shading a little? Iveh Yo! 03:29, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
Actually, there's a cite for his scars in his description. Tornear's ear was removed because there was no cite. Shelly For a limited time only 03:43, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
As an apprentice though? It just said he was mentioned as being so-and-so's apprentice (I just skimmed quickly) Iveh Yo! 04:09, January 18, 2012 (UTC)
The color is the same, but I was told to define shading, so I had to darken it a little. I got the colors from the warrior charart, though, so its fine. Re-Uploaded.∗Mistystar∗Trust the Fire Within... 22:48, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
Ok. If you want to make it look lighter anyways and you have photoshop, you can do that by choosing a slightly light foreground color and using overlay with the paint bucket. ∗Dewstar(leaf)∗~Iamnoillusion...~ 23:12, January 23, 2012 (UTC)
Make the earpink less neon please. Sweetflower19:08 Mon Jan 30
Re-Uploaded O.o I think I made it worse. Oh well..I'll just play with it for a bit see what happens xD..I personally think the earpink is fine but if anybody else wants me too I'll change it. --CinderReal or Not Real?
00:29, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the haunch and tail shading. ;D Sky Dovahkiin 08:02, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
M'kay, I'm basically going to contradict the previous comments, but define the shading in some parts of the charart as it's almost invisible (most likely due to overblurring) and then (I would at least) start over with the back half of the charart (tail and haunch) as it's very inconsistent and splotchy. x3 Lot of work, but I know you can pull it through. :) Atelda 03:58, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Hey, Cinder. Still working on this? —jaycedream on 19:07, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Oyus Cloud..As you can see I just got a comment from Atelda so I'm working on that..--CinderReal or Not Real?
01:49, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
Is it my computer, or did you use the female blank? ___✫Leafy✫ 16:15, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
'Reuploaded. Atelda 03:18, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Since there is a distinct light source from above, shouldn't there be a highlight/no shading on the back on the neck and the base of the tail? I might be wrong... It might just be the way my phone is showing it o3o ~Pouncey!"Aloha!" "You're Hawaiian?""No..."x3 03:28, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Lighten the shading and/or lighten the base colour; I can barely see the lineart near the legs. oblivionAudience? 03:38, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded. The light source is not directly overhead otherwise you'd get something where the whole back of the cat is highlighted. My light source is somewhat coming from a 45-90 degree angle away from the spot directly overhead....if that made any sense at all. Atelda 03:45, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Ugh! I forgot that Ice was still under CBA, even though it should have been approved by now. So, will this have to be declined, or Ice would be approved, therefore I can keep this? --Leafstrike-- 18:28, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
I'll go approve it, but make sure to check next time. Iveh Yo! 18:36, February 15, 2012 (UTC)
The shading still needs to be defined in some areas. Define the shading on the belly, tail front and back legs that are farthest from us, and the shoulder/neck. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 09:16, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded - I'd rather not change the earpink - I got it and all the other colors off the other image. Yes, this is Twi. :P Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 03:27, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
Could you lighten the base color? It's hard to see the lineart. Also there's a bit of waste under his chin~(that or my phone's being weird again) ~Pouncey!"Aloha!" "You're Hawaiian?""No..."x3 23:50, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
I think the color is fine. I can see the lineart, and he's a black cat, not a dark gray cat. Just clean up whatever waste there is and I'll CBA. Shelly For a limited time only 17:37, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
Uh...I opened it on Photoshop and saw no waste...even after I gave it a red background to see....Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 18:07, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
Finally I got a ginger kitty 8D Mothwing!! Most epic character ever <333 Anyway, there was a discussion about this. On the picture it looked like she had white paws but I can remove them if someone thinks they shouldn't be there. The white parts on her face should be there though. So ya, comments? MΘυητɣTheAftermathIsSecondary 05:58, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
I'm really sorry to interrupt, Mounty, but this isn't very ginger. It looks kind of peach to me. Could you up the red balance and at least match the facial pattern from the source image? That's what we usually do with images that portray characters incorrectly. Shelly For a limited time only 00:49, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
It was withdrawn before and no one taken it, well, i have right to do him?! I made him longhaired to match his pelt lenght now, but i can change it. Well? Leafy ♫Absolutemaniac♪,19:15,February 18,2012 (UTC)
Lighten him up a tad. Silverhmm 19:18, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
This is ugly. Okay...so, she needed to have a non-pregnant alternate image. I really don't like this one. >.< Comments? ☯Stoneclaw☯ 21:20, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
Get rid of the neck and cheek flab, since tht's not on the other lineart, smooth out the top of the foreleg fatherst from us, and bring in the back of her hind leg a bit. Shelly For a limited time only 21:22, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the shading on the haunch and shoulders~ and i think there's waste under the tail. This is lovely Stoneh! ^^ ☾Pouncey☽
21:23, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded. You mean the hindleg like this? You might have to check file history to see the changes. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 21:54, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
Grr.. You stole my next charart! *swipes at Stoney* Round the "highlight" on the haunch a bit more, maybe add some light to the top of the forelegs and to the top of the tail. ScarletwindWibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey stuff… 23:53, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
Yup, looking good! There's still a spike on the base of her right foreleg, though, and what looks like waste outside it. Shelly For a limited time only 23:57, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded. May have to check file history to see the changes. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 06:27, February 21, 2012 (UTC)
There's waste right above the nose. —jaycedream on 06:02, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
Add some speckles under the lineart instead of stopping before it along the spine please. Also I think there's a speck of waste on the front leg farthest from us. ~Pouncey!"Aloha!" "You're Hawaiian?""No..."x301:22, February 10, 2012 (UTC)
Shadeh, are you still working on this? —jaycedream on 20:18, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
Can you brighten/define the ear-pink a bit more? The color from the warrior might've been blurred over so much that the main color had been smudged into the black. Feel free to change the shade a bit. ScarletwindWibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey stuff… 06:02, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Whoa....this is great, but, in my view....Plumwillow was never even seen at the Twoleg nest. We don't really have any evidence that she was, and even though she may have gone with the other cats, it doesn't mean that she actually took any food. Qway 18:34, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
Quail, look at the article: "Afterwards, Plumwillow is seen with Birdpaw, Honeypaw, Sandypaw, and Nettlesplash getting food from the elderly Twoleg woman". Anyway, add the curve in the neck like this: ( where the tag was. This is lovely, DJ. Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 22:45, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
Are you sure, I don't want to argue, but I own the manga, and she isn't ever at the Twoleg nest. However, if you really don't agree Purplemoon can continue. Qway 22:36, February 7, 2012 (UTC)
Please work on this or it will be declined. —jaycedream on 06:09, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
You misunderstood Mountain, I said you can have an apprentice and a loner up, as the old rule for the apprentices still applies, that you can have two chararts up as long as one is an apprentice. Neither of your images are apprentices however, do you'll have to withdraw one, sorry.
Ship it 07:01, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but that lineart's anatomy is just killing me. I think this looks more realistic. I copied almost everything from the longhaired. oblivionAudience? 02:16, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
The leg is pulled forward on the long-furred, and if you look in the file history of Squirrelflight I have the back of the foot the same as on Goldenflower, which I did following Breezey pointing out that a cat that isn't pregnant and in this position would be putting more weight on its legs, and so would have the back leg pulled in and tense looking, not splayed out. Also, please get rid of the flab line on the cheek. Shelly For a limited time only 02:20, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. All right, please don't comment on the shading, the markings, or the earpink. Comment on the lineart only. I don't want to have to redo the shading every time I change the lineart. I'll fix the shading once I get a good lineart. oblivionAudience? 03:06, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
Mkay, move the back of the foot just a bit further back and change the hip joint back to how it was before. Shelly For a limited time only 03:12, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. Since Shelly approves, go ahead and comment on shading etc. now. oblivionAudience? 03:43, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
There is some waste near the back foot, and can you define the shading on the two front paws? :3 ☯Mistypebble☯ 04:04, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
Define the white at the top of her arm closest to us along the line art on <---that side o3o At least that made sense in my mind...xD ☾~Pouncey~☽ 01:48, February 21, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, that makes no sense to me. Elaborate a little more? oblivionAudience? 01:45, February 22, 2012 (UTC)
Oi xO I stink at explaining things. Okay, so on the fore leg closest to us, on the top of the lineart on <---that side, it looks like there's brown peaking through. X: ☾~Pouncey~☽ 05:56, February 22, 2012 (UTC)