Blur the earpink, and there is waste by the (our) left side of (our) right ear, near the (our) right side of the hind leg haunch and the front (the cats) right paw. ~DJCandyFun~I do enjoy fun...8D05:46, 27, 02, 2012
Look at the adorable little crazy cat! Needed a kit for the same reason as Firestar. oblivionAudience? 01:01, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
When was he described as a kit? I don't remember it being the same instance as Firestar. Iveh Yo! 01:33, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
If Firestar gets one for remembering a smell, then Skywatcher gets one for remembering his first mouse. oblivionAudience? 01:49, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
He never specified how old he was when he got his first mouse. In Firestar's dream, he was still nursing. I don't think this gets a kit charart. Shelly For a limited time only 02:08, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
Also, if I remember correctly, he said he remembered catching his first mouse. How many kittens do that? Shelly For a limited time only 02:15, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
Sky points out the edge of SkyClan's territory and the small cave where he was born. If Firestar remembers what he did, Sky remembers enough. oblivionAudience? 02:23, February 27, 2012 (UTC)
Remembering a cave seems to me to be more than just a smell. Why not? o3o Sky Promises, promises 02:26, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
Fine, I concede. This looks fine, by the way. Just blur the shading a lot and I'll likely CBA it. Shelly For a limited time only 17:39, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
Ew, Sol >.< Anyway, there was a discussion about this and it seems like the answer is yes, that he should get an alt for his colors on the cover of Beyond the Code and Long Shadows. All of the colors, including the strane earpink, were taken from the cover of Beyond the Code. He didn't look like he had tufted ears in the book. Comments? ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary05:47 Fri Mar 2
Define the ear pink? Holy crap. *steals* —Tabitha✧<> 05:50, March 2, 2012 (UTC)
Define the shading a tad. *Kills Sol* There. Problem solved. 8D Sky Seedlit Proxy 11:31, March 2, 2012 (UTC)
>:V *revives Sol* Make the white parts look more white and less pink? Dazzy 11:58, March 2, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot to mention, smudge that white end of the tail a bit more? It ends a little abruptly. *Sends Dazzle to the 12th dimension and turns Sol to dust* 8D Sky Seedlit Proxy 12:48, March 2, 2012 (UTC)
My goodness Mounty! :o *dies of epicness* Just smudge the ginger on the face a bit to match the body, and should he have tufted ears, or no?
Ship it 14:57, March 2, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded Yay! You killed him 8D Thankies Paleh <33 I'd rather not change the white since it's from the cover of BTC and it didn't look like he had tufted ears in the manga. ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary15:03 Fri Mar 2
<3 Could you define the shading on the shoulder and neck? I love this. 8D ☯Stoneclaw☯ 21:40, March 2, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to inturupt but the face "highlight" looks like its gray...okay kill me if it's supposed to be like that, I just don't always follow confersations. :\ SandyI thinkDaddy'smy slave! 22:44, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
It's looking fine to me. Continuing CBA. —Tabitha✧<> 22:48, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
This is wonderful, Mountain! =D But the white parts look a bit pinkish to me, at least on my computer... >.< ☯Mistypebble☯ 01:28, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
Is that triangular patch of gray between the front legs (the ones in front that we see) is that supposed to be there? And the foot on the other side of him (the one not turned to us) that looks gray, match the shading gray on the other back paw with the one on the hind back paw. Like on his kittypet image. Clover day Woo ♣♣ 01:59, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
I know that he was shown somewhat pinkish of the Beyond the Code cover, but on the Long Shadows cover it looks more white. Mind tweaking it to look ever so slightly more white? :3 Dazzy 11:06, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
Honestly, guys? The color's fine. It needs to match the kittypet image, which it does in terms of color. If you had an issue with the color, you should have said something when the kittypet was up for approval. The colors have to match. —Tabitha✧<> 17:39, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded Yes, I had all of the colors from the kittypet. @WooWoo that patch is supposed to be there, it's his underbelly. ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary03:24 Tue Mar 6
Cloudy adores Sol. Cloudy shall CBA this image. —Tabitha✧<> 04:32, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
I was looking at the manga, and shouldn't there be four different colors on the tail? Not just white, black, and red/ginger? I apologize if I'm wrong. x:
What color would it be? There's only ever been three of his colors shown in actual color. I mean, you're right, but, there's no way to tell what color it should be. —Tabitha✧<> 04:05, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
True... But based on his other fur compared to it, I would guess a darker shade of red/ginger. :s But it is kinda hard to tell...
Personally, I think it's fine the way it is, and since we're not supposed to match the art directly, I'd say the image is good enough. I'm going to restart the CBA, because I think it's fine. If you disagree, feel free to comment. —Tabitha✧<> 04:47, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
The shading is fine in darkness, it's dark/light enough. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 16:27, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
Wait, I thought this charart was already done by Scarlet. The loner image is already on Sasha's page, and it's in the approved archives from February. If I'm right, the image should be reverted back to the original artist's version.
Oops, didn't look closely. Qway 05:37, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
If Frostfur and the other elders get one, so does she. Anyways, this is the style I want to remake her images into, so no whining that it does not match her other ones. —Tabitha✧<> 04:28, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
As much as I love the furry look, she almost looks vaguely mottled.... I'm not sure how to fix it though. Maybe you could think of a way, but could you try and fix it? That's the only thing I see wrong, awesome as always mounty! <3
Ship it 06:11, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure that, to lessen the mottled effect, you could blur the pelt ^^ At least, that's what I think. Do that and blur the face shading, and keep being epic at charart~! Dazzy 14:54, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
File:Badgerpaw.kit.png Hooray! 8D I got another one of his images <33333 He's my favorite character ever.... XD This is actually uploaded onto my personal image from much earlier with different shading..... :P Comments?
Ship it 01:21, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
So cute! I can't see anything wrong with it other than maybe blur the stripe along his tail a bit. :3 RavenBeeeeeees 01:29, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
I just don't see anything wrong. Maybe just blur the chest and make the stripes darker there. I can't really see them.Spo[[User talk:.Spottedclaw 01:30, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Aww!! Kawaii!! <333 Make the black stripes on his head a bit thicker, brighten the ear-pink a touch, and maybe smudge the chest a bit more. ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 04:12, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
This is adorable, Paleh! Lighten the white on his tail a smidge *steals* <3 Dazzy 08:08, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Rename this Badgerpaw.kit.png. --Leafstrike-- 01:40, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded - Kay, I think I did everything.... however I'm not changing the color of the white on the tail, it's dark cause it's in the shadows and if it wasn't dark, it'd be flat :P And bah, how did I forget to change the filename before uploading? XD *fails*
Ship it 21:27, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
I'm in love with this! CBA? Ivyheart=P 04:43, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
ReuploadedSilverhmm 11:57, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
Where's your light coming from? The body says from the left but the face says the right. I'd say move the shading on the face to the other side and blur it a lot, and it should be ready for CBA then. Shelly For a limited time only 17:33, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the earpink a little bit. Sunnyfrost 21:54, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
There isn't any shading on the right except Shelly. Silverhmm 22:16, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
Lighten the shading, and I think there is waste, it might just be my eyes. WildfireMistystar's Omen! 21:35, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
There's no waste. 8D —Tabitha✧<> 22:34, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
Yup I agree with Skye. Now I think the shading on the back could be blured a little bit more. Maybe darken the shading on the face while lightening it by the tail. Too confusing? SandyI thinkDaddy'smy slave! 22:42, March 5, 2012 (UTC)
Blur ze haunch shading plz (Chatspeak bad x.x) Sky Gatlocke 07:01, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
Also, blur the earpink. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 16:28, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
What's your light source? It seems to be coming from all over the place. --CinderReal or Not Real?
00:19, March 7, 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to have to withdraw (Sounds familiar coming from me doesn't it?) the shading is making everything difficult for this image 8c. Silverhmm 12:11, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
Well, Silver, may I take it then? Leafy ♫Absolutemaniac♪ 20:49, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
You don't need to ask; just remember to reserve it. —Tabitha✧<> 01:01, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Im always asking :-) , so I dont want to steal someones work, so I have done new charart, reuploaded Leafy ♫Absolutemaniac♪ 13:24, March 9, 2012
Kay, got this bad boy done and I must say, I'm pretty happy with how he came out. In Long Shadows, I'm pretty sure he was considered a loner in it, and we agreed the Long Shadows cover counts. Comments for improvement? Iveh Yo! 16:14, March 6, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded Leafstorm, I did expand the highlights and blur them. I always do everything the people tell me to =3 And I just realized the shading needs to be blurred... ☺~Leafy~☺ 02:52, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
Cheshire, you should be specific. Where is the shading too heavy? Honestly, I think the highlights could be blurred a little more, and blended with the shading more. Right now, you can clearly tell where the shading/highlights meet. When I use them (rare, but I still use 'em now =P), I try and make them flow together. —Tabitha✧<> 17:43, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded *headdesk* I made this such a fail >.< ___✫Leafy✫ 14:43, February 11, 2012 (UTC)
He's kinda starting to look an off-white ish color. Why don't you ask Mistypebble, the artist of Egg's apprentice image, for the pelt color? She probably still has the original file. —Tabitha✧<> 04:52, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded I can't believe no one noticed he needed a torn ear... ___✫Leafy✫ 16:58, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
Make the torn ear more thick and blur the shadings more. Leafy ♫Absolutemaniac♪ 18:47, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
Wait, do you mean thicken the line-art on the torn ear or make the torn ear go down deeper? ___✫Leafy✫ 20:03, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
I think you should go back up with the ear, but just cut dont like a "v". This cut sorta looks like a "u". Sorry if that made now sense whatsoever Also could you blur the shading a bit? ~Pouncey!"Aloha!" "You're Hawaiian?""No..."x3 16:31, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
Are you still working on it Leafy? Leafy ♫Absolutemaniac♪ 19:51, February 21,
Mmhmm... I didn't know, so I just thickened the line-art with what Leafstorm said (does that make sense?) Oh, Re-uploaded___✫Leafy✫ 20:44, February 22, 2012 (UTC)
You thickened it a bit too much hun. Just remove the top layer of pixels and that should be good. ( I think) And smoothen out the shading more, so it doesn't look like it has a green tint. --CinderReal or Not Real?
00:52, February 23, 2012 (UTC)
Smooth out the shading on the legs, and I'm pretty sure his nicked ear should look more V shaped. Dazzy 11:24, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
Make the nick in the ear more the same size as the one on the apprentice charart. He was an apprentice after being a loner, I doubt the split would have shrunk over time. Shelly For a limited time only 17:27, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
It's been four weeks since this was first posted. Should this be declined? Rainlegs 02:47, March 1, 2012 (UTC)
This is just a tad bit darker then the apprentice image. Why not try taking the dodge tool over the base pelt color ever so slightly? Other then that, this is perfect. —Tabitha✧<> 01:03, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Can you blur the earpink a little more or smudge the fur into the ear a tad? :3 Rainlegs 22:59, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
Define the tail shading and eye depth. Looks good, Mooneh! ☯Stoneclaw☯ 06:05, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. Sorry for the long wait. I lost the .pdn (the original file with layers) so I couldn't mess anything up for a while. I have the .pdn on another computer, but it's an hour's drive away. I'm trying to get the file sent to me, so, don't say anything about fixing the tail shading, because I didn't. I just defined the eye depth. :3 MoonehGoodbye, everyone...
11:32, February 22, 2012 (UTC)
Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink, maybe the color a bit thinner, the teeth a bit rounder (they kinda look like shark teeth) and define the shading on the neck, collar, teeth, and head. ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 03:06, February 23, 2012 (UTC)
Well, Scarlet, the teeth do match pixel for pixel the same as the last loner image, but, I can round them if you want me to. :3 MoonehGoodbye, everyone...
11:39, February 23, 2012 (UTC)
There's a pixel of waste under his tail~ ☾~Pouncey~☽ 14:48, February 23, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. Defined tail shading, smudged pelt into earpink, and (hopefully) got rid of the waste under the tail. I lightened it, too. MoonehGoodbye, everyone...
The waste is still there o3o it's trapped between the hind leg farthest from us and the tail~ *stinks at explaining things* :|3 ☾~Pouncey~☽ 03:56, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the shading on the stomach/belly. —Tabitha✧<> 03:58, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. The changes aren't showing; I blurred the shading on flank/shoulder, went through every layer and got rid of waste, but I hate to say it, I can't make the collar thinner. I can re-do it if you want me to, but -cough-itwaskindofhard-cough-. MoonehGoodbye, everyone...
09:59, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the body shading some and smudge the pelt into the earpink a bit more....and define rhe shading on the front leg if there is any. *is shot* Sky Promises, promises 11:19, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
Darken up the back and back leg shading because it looks like it's like, reaaaaly bright. Then blur it and the ear pink. I l0ve the collar! SandyI thinkDaddy'smy slave! 03:38, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. I found the .pdn 8D...I know it looks a bit darker, but...yeah. Skye helped me with the shading (fail) on join.me, so it should be good...I'll fix the collar later once I can catch Shelly or Ivy on chat. MoonehGoodbye, everyone...
22:41, February 29, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the belly shading..and you could just leave a message on their talk page :P --CinderReal or Not Real?
02:51, March 1, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. I re-did the shading. There's waste everywhere, but I can't get it off. I went through every layer and deleted it...but it's still there. So if someone could do it for me, or help or something....? MoonehGoodbye, everyone...
11:35, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
I usually open the .png file in Pixlr, and delete the waste there. You coukd try that if'n you want. :P Sky Molto bene 11:43, March 8, 2012 (UTC)
I think you're just looking in the wrong place. Because of which side of the ear it's on, it's really small but it's perfectly visible. It's fine. But can you blur the highlights and darken the shading?
Ship it 01:02, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Expand the highlights on the haunch and flank upward. Move the highlight on the shoulder more to the left and brighten it so it's the same color as the other highlights. ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary17:17 Sun Mar 11
Sorry...But can you smooth out the shading a bit more, if ya can? And make the earpink redder to match the queen image. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 20:50, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
Oh... um... yeah. I took the earpink straight from the queen image though, so... I'll make it a bit redder but won't change it that much. ReuploadedHey! Hey! Hey!Heeeey RowaaanWooey 21:15, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the highlights more and lower their opacity, get rid of the waste outside of the charart, and make the ear pink smaller and a bit more red. Also, when you edit the image, it's best to type Reuploaded after the last comment. And please sign with four '~ or hit the signature button.
Re-uploaded, Thanks everyone for helping meh! :3 And I signed but I was also told I should stop signing.. Should I or shouldn't I? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravensong (talk • contribs)
No you should always sign. Who on earth told you not to? And define the speckles and dull the highlights.
Ship it 00:59, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
._. I did not tell you to stop signing. I told you not to sign up there ^ because I had already put an unsigned template there and the time would be wrong. Please don't twist my words around. oblivionAudience?
01:02, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
... And I noticed you signed it again. Please don't put a signature where it says "unsigned comment".oblivionAudience? 01:04, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I'm Really Really sorry, I didn't mean to twist your words around, I didn't understand. RavenBeeeeeees 01:20, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded, Thanks again everyone, and again, really sorry Oblivion^. RavenBeeeeeees 01:26, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Try putting the lineart on a separate layer and putting the highlight layer below that; your highlights are making the lineart grey. oblivionAudience? 01:47, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded, erased more waste. RavenBeeeeeees 17:21, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Did you do what I told you to do? The lineart on his face is still grey. oblivionAudience? 21:58, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded, sorry, found the waste, it should All be gone now. And Oblivion, I don't know how to do that, I went back over all of the lineart with Pure Black, so there shouldn't be any grey anymore. RavenBeeeeeees 23:16, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded, I darkened, blurred some areas, tried to match his color a bit more to his apprectice image, Also for some reason I don't think its uploading the new edits on the image, When i'm re-uploading it, it says "Oops, a photo with that name already exists." I click "overwright the existing image with yours." Don't know if i'm doing something wrong. RavenBeeeeeees 09:26, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
That's fine, Ravensong. But I still think you need to tone down the highlights quite a bit, and center/blur the earpink. ☯Mistypebble☯ 19:41, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
Raven, when you re-upload the image, are you adding a new image to the wiki? You should go to the existing file and click "upload a new version of this file" RowanOnly One Can Judge... 20:03, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded, Well, I tried to tone them down, and I blurred the earpink, hope it looks okay. RavenBeeeeeees 20:39, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to suggest that you shouldn't go heavy on the highlights, as it still needs to be toned down, and go heavier on the shading, so define the shading, while having the highlights toned down more. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 04:36, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
THere's some whiteness on the lineart of the left eye; fix that. ❄ Sunnyfrost ❄ 23:08, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded, Well, I found out why I wasn't toning down things enough etc, I couldn't access the layers because I saved it as png instead of xcf. So I just started over, hope it looks better! RavenBeeeeeees 23:33, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
I actually meant to take that off of my reservations. I must have forgotten. XD Looks great! Define the tail shading a little? I know, shading is sometimes difficult on black cats. :3 Ivyheart=P 03:07, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
He was mentioned in Into the Wild with Black paws, and that's the same situation as Tigerstar, so he should get an alt. I don't actually have the book to check what rank he is on that page, but since he's an apprentice most of the book, I'm going to assume he was one, unless someone tells me otherwise. Comments?
Ship it 14:27, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and yes I noticed I names it wrong again. I'm kinda out of it, sorry. XD I'm gonna ask Teldy to rename it.
Ship it 14:27, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
Can you lighten up the whole image a tad, and blur the earpink? ☯Stoneclaw☯ 16:08, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
Can you define the ear pink, as well as what Stone suggested? —Tabitha✧<> 07:30, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
Also, (it could just be the effect of how dark the image is), but it seems as if the shading has some sort of neon hue to it, but also, it could be just me, if you can, can you try fixing that? ☯Stoneclaw☯ 23:10, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
Okay the whole thing looks black...and the ear pink needs to blurred then smudged into the ear. Are you working on this still? It's been about five days... SandyI thinkDaddy'smy slave! 00:06, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
Sand, please don't repeat comments. It's already been said that the image is too dark, earpink needs to be blurred. Also, the fur is already smudged into the ear... ☯Stoneclaw☯ 06:26, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded - Sorry for the wait, I was being lazy this week. ^^;
Ship it 20:44, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
I think the heel on the back legs should jut out a little more. Also, add the dew claws (optional), and the toes should also jut out a little more, a little like this. --Leafstrike-- 00:30, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
Maybe make a line to mark the inner ear, slope the forehead down to the muzzle a bit more, and maybe make the neck a bit longer? This is cool! :) ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 01:09, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
Could you post all the blanks? And round out the front of the muzzle a bit, it's really boxy. Shelly For a limited time only 01:41, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
I stand by my comment that they'd look better with claws sticking out, since they are rogues after all. It is optional, but in my eyes, it'd be better Iveh Yo! 02:13, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, but unless they had dog claws/teeth on them (still not sure how the BC cats got them to stay on), they wouldn't be very visable... Look at them. They're small, thin, and curve in when they're out and the cat isn't sticking them into something (which causes the claws to draw out more). Shelly For a limited time only 02:21, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
Lower the back part of the neck every so slightly, and if it's a rogue, maybe make its back arched like this guy. Dazzy 07:38, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
It just means the blank is transparent. It's fine, Bluestar. —Tabitha✧<> 20:08, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
Though the other blanks are filled in with white, Cloudy. We'd have to make them transparent also if we leave this one as it is. --Leafstrike-- 20:46, March 12, 2012 (UTC)
This is nice but the tail should probally go up about 15 degrees or so. Also shouldn't you post all four like the Prey Hunter and the Loner and the Apprentice blanks? SandyI thinkDaddy'smy slave! 00:14, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
She doesn't have to for one. I found it way easier to work with one until there wasn't very many major lineart changes. It takes awhile to do longhairs and to have to redo them every time there is a major tweak is hard x.x make the neck a tad longer. ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary00:27 Tue Mar 13
@LeafstrikeAsakura, Right now, I guess it can stay transparent. Oblivion can add it later, and if the blanks are approved with transparency instead of white, it isn't much of a big difference, for users could still fill in color in the blanks. I guess it could be added later, when the images are approved. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 04:39, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, so since I'm away without my laptop, I have no way of uploading this, but I do have a few things to say. First of all, Leafstrike, it does have few claws, but cats don't have them on their back feet. Everyone else, I won't upload all four; Mounty said all I needed to say. And it's transparent. Big deal. I completely didn't realize it upon uploading, and the next time I change it the body will be white. Oh, and bear with me for the little changes; there are only so many pixels available to me and it's hard to make little changes on such a small image. oblivionAudience? 21:22, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
Also, you have hundreds of thousands of pixels at your disposal. I advise you make the changes suggested if you want to get these things done any time soon. Shelly For a limited time only 21:32, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
Lol Shelly, that picture xD Anyway, sorry for the typo. I meant to say dew claw. Cats don't have them on their back feet. And about the pixels: what you say is true, but for a certain area it's hard to do. The paws, for instance. I can only make them so big or so small in a certain direction before it looks stupid. But you're right, I need to do it, obviously. No computer until Tuesday though. oblivionAudience? 21:37, March 13, 2012 (UTC)
I didn't say to add dew claws on the hind legs. --Leafstrike-- 04:17, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
Oh. Well, I thought that's what you meant since he does have one on his front. oblivionAudience? 13:53, March 15, 2012 (UTC)
Just throwing this out there, Loonie's gonna be gone till tuesday, but I think we should make an exception and not decline these. Also, can we make the time limit before a charart is declined 2 weeks for blanks? Especially since we voted on them and all.
Ship it 01:16, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
Personally, I don't think there should be a limit on blanks. Not because I'm going to poof on you guys and go AWOL for a month, but because no one else will be able to replicate the blank. oblivionAudience? 01:34, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
Loonie, it's fine. Take as along as you need. We're not in any rush to get these done, last I checked. And if we are, those users need to calm their horses and wait. We realize you have a life. XD —Tabitha✧<> 01:36, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
Can you define the elbow on the left foreleg, and move it up a bit higher on the leg to be aligned with the abdomen/chest, because that's how it is on a cat. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 23:15, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
Could you straighten the back leg closest to us because it looks a bit crooked and broken. --CinderReal or Not Real?
16:44, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
17:04, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
Not sure if this has been said before but the ear on <--- that side make it a pixl or two thicker because it looks quite thin and it doesn't match the rest of the lineart. Also make the little line on the down <--- left paw thicker. Do you know what I'm talking about? SandyI thinkDaddy'smy slave! 00:04, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. Okay, with Shelly's help, I've identified what I should and should not do. oblivionAudience? 19:05, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
The tail looks broken, possibly smooth the curve out on the tail? Also, shorten the tail a bit. --Leafstrike-- 21:25, March 21, 2012 (UTC)
Purplemoon, I think I know what you mean. The paw furthest away doesn't look the same as the other paws since they're a bit rounder, so round out the top of the front paw furthest from us ^^ Iveh Yo! 00:52, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
The muzzle doesn't look quite right. Try smoothing out the area between the brow ridge and the bridge of the nose. ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary00:57 Thu Mar 22
This is just my opinion, but it doesn't quite give off the more wild sense of a rogue verses a loner. Maybe stretch the neck out, flatten the ears, and bear their teeth. Maybe also bring one of the forepaws into a striking position. If you disagree, feel free to ignore this. ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 02:24, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with Scarlet. That's why I voted no change in the second round, that was one of my reasons, that none really looked like a rogue in terms of their stature (no offense meant at all). You are free to disagree but I think you should at least try it to see how it looks. Iveh Yo! 17:19, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
You both make good points, but there's one thing I want to discuss: he doesn't "look like a rogue". I get that you think rogues are aggressive, and would look more so with flattened ears, bared teeth, etc., but by that logic, the warrior should be doing something warrior-like. The warriors just look like a cat sitting down. Same with the leaders, deputies, sharpclaws, cave-guards, kittypets, and any others I may have forgotten. If you haven't been exposed to our images, none of them may look like the rank you think they're supposed to look like. Let's say you've come to the site for the first time, and you take a look at Thistleclaw's image. Not going off the image, just the blank itself, how does that look like a warrior to you unless you know he's a warrior? I don't think my image has to "look" like a rogue, since none of the other images do.
In addition, rogues aren't always going around terrorizing other cats, are they? Let's take Sasha for an example. While she didn't exactly leave the Clans alone, she never killed/kidnapped any of them, never took their prey, and never got into a fight. The image should be unbiased in that it doesn't look like the cats are "doing" anything.
Now, that's just my opinion. Feel free to disagree/shoot me down. oblivionAudience? 19:09, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
I think baring the teeth or looking like it's trying to start a fight would be over doing it a lot. All it really needs is to look like it's ready to defend itself (like my proposed blanks did). A slight arch up in the spine, a bend at the legs. Nothing too dramatic. Shelly For a limited time only 19:35, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry I'm much to lazy to see if this was mentioned or not already, but make the legs farthest from us a bit shorter than the ones closer to us, so it doesn't look like it's one a tightrope.
Ship it 20:35, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
I think the pose is fine its like the old one, just lower the tail a little or straighten it out. WildfireMistystar's Omen! 01:36, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
I think it looks a bit too tall. Shorten the legs, especially the hock, a lengthen the body a little. Also, the shoulder is attached oddly. Round it out a bit. Breezewhisker 16:56, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
Hey, Loonie, do you mind posting the long-haired blanks here? I'm no expert, but this blanks looks like it's ready for CBA, or something. >.< *doesn't know too much about approval of blanks* ☯Stoneclaw☯ 01:47, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
This is optional, but maybe flatten the ears a little? It gives them the more "hostile" look, and rogues are pretty hostile. I think this is fablulous. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 02:21, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. So with the help of Leggy and Paleh (who couldn't seem to make up their minds...), I've fixed him a little. Also, Ivy, see my novel up there^ for why I'm not flattening the ears. oblivionAudience? 02:34, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
I've gotten a recent critique on a cat picture of mine. They said that cat bellies dip a little, so you might need to make it droop some. Iveh Yo! 00:42, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, but his back is arched, therefore his belly would arch with it. oblivionAudience? 01:59, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to probably get sent to the firing squad for this.... but CBA? —Tabitha✧<> 20:40, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
Cloudy, we can't approve this without the other three blanks, unless we're going to approve this and then have her put up the female and longhairds. Iveh Yo! 14:38, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
That's what we were planning on. Continuing CBA (hopefully I can without getting shot...). oblivionAudience? 15:10, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
Don't stop CBA for this, it's just a question- So if this one gets appproved we can start doing the shorthaired males? Or just wait for the other ones? Ivyheart=P 17:03, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
I really like these rogue blanks, Oblivion. But on the Short Male, to me the feet seem a little blurry. Feel free to disagree with me, it could just be with my computer. ★ Sootopolitan Berry ★ 00:42, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
I think it's the wiki, actually. There've been some issues with the images recently, and the changes haven't been showing properly. —Tabitha✧<> 00:43, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that yesterday, Cloudy. Just now, the Long Male has changed back to the older blanks. ★ Sootopolitan Berry ★ 00:46, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
For me, the long female is the only one showing. Also; a good way to tell if the male's changes are showing is if it's transparent. If not, no changes. oblivionAudience? 00:47, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
I can only see the short haired male, but it looks epic! :3 RavenBeeeeeees 01:21, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
Looks awesome! All four! I like longhaired one best :D Leafy ♫Absolutemaniac♪,8:16, April 1,2012 (UTC)
Okee I'm gonna be a nit picking butt X3 but it's only for the long hairs you don't have to do these things it's just my opinion. Maybe add some floof to the hocks and their elbows I guess (I don't know what they're called) and the floof on the chest seem to be sorta cut off right before it gets to the head. Maybe trying getting rid of the curve that is right there (if that makes sense) Anyway, I'm done babbling. These look AMAZING! <33 ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary15:30 Sun Apr 1
Re-uploaded. Thanks to Mounty and Leggy for the assistance c: oblivionAudience? 16:48, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, both for interrupting and for my inability to see the blank well enough, but it appears there's long fur on the front of the haunch, and it looks odd to me there. If it's not, ignore my comment. Iveh Yo! 20:07, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
It's supposed to be like that. It's that way on the apprentices and on the loners. I'm going to continue the CBA. ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary20:12 Sun Apr 1
Hah it seems like forever since I've put anything up for approval! I kept meaning to do this but kept forgetting. He is constantly called mottled gray in the allegiances, and I don't think it's a partial description because he is gray-brown with white splotches, so I think it warrants an alt. However, if you guys disagree, I'll respect your decision. Also, I tried a new mottled method, how does it look? :D Iveh Yo! 18:22, March 29, 2012 (UTC)
Berry, please do not comment on images that have been CBA'd, especially just to say how wonderful the image is. —Tabitha✧<> 07:40, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
This is the wrong version of the blank. There's no fur on the back of his arm nor his hock, and that weird random spot on his tail wasn't fixed. Look here for the correct version. oblivionAudience? 10:27, April 2, 2012 (UTC)
Hmmmm..... I'm never doing stripes with the pencil again. XD This is the best I could do to match it. Comments?
Ship it 00:47, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the belly shading and darken the overall shading a tiny bit~ Also, smudge the earpink into the ear a bit, and the stripes on the tail seem to be edging away from the lineart along the bottom... I hope that made sense... Fix it? OuO
File:Stoneteller (Ancient).healer.alt.png Now, I don't want to hear any whining about there being no page number. I know it's a legit cite, but I don't currently have a copy of TLH to check. Anyways... Half Moon is epic. —Tabitha✧<> 02:58, April 3, 2012 (UTC)