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Raindrop - Withdrawn by User

[[File:Raindrop.png]] I'm busy during the summer, so don't decline if I don't respond right away, even for a week. Anyway, I know I've gotta get working on the shading. What else? GB57 15:43, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

The marking - people said it needs to look more like a raindrop rather than a rectangle. They also said don't outline it in black make it a black and grey marking.  Sandy Talk! 16:30, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work.-- Darkhallows  Lair 08:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

When I say "Don't decline", and you decline, it makes me think that you don't read everything. GB57 05:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I can understand not declining something for say, two weeks, but after that, it's really not fair to not decline it. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 05:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry GB! Gosh, I thought I had read the text... Again, I am sorry. -faepalm--- Darkhallows  Lair 05:55, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Just remember to look at the text before declining for lack of work. I'll get to this sometime this week; just hang tight, everyone. GB57 15:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Make the marking look like a raindrop.--Yai-Girl 17:38, 7 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I cannot get that marking. Withdrawn. GB57 18:02, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


[[File:Birchfall-5.png]] Now I feel that I have enough time to work on this. Here is Birchfall again. Is it okay that I am putting it back up? -User:SparrowWing

well, it looks okay but it needs some improvement, try working on the stripes, make them stand out. And add a little more shading :) you did good for your first try! His eyes also need color :) Nice work HawkfireMy Den 14:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Nice to see you back in here, SparrowWing. :D He needs that wave thing out of the eye. You need to blur the stripes a bit, too. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 02:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Hawkfire Worked on the stripes. The eyes do have color, it is just a similar color to the fur.

DawnfeatherBlurred stripes. I'm not sure what you mean about the eye. Could you be more specific?


There is a tabby marking which looks a bit like this ~ which tabbies generally have next to their eye, going towards their neck. It starts at the outside corner of the (Bottom right (our right) in the pic) eyes and is (in real life) about an inch + 1/2 long. It points towrds the neck and is basically the same as ~ buut rotated about 30 degrees colckwise (when you look at the image). I hope this actually helpped instead of confused you more. :L -- Dawnfeather  talk! 02:02, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. Also, Sparrow, if you want to put this up again, I think you should change the color. This is a rather, sort of sickly brown color. I'd look at Toadfoot or another approved brown tabby for reference on the color. --Bramble My Realm 18:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Sloefur- Declined

[[File:Sloefur.PNG]] I loooove Sloefur! I hope the shading and whatnot turned out alright. --Sandiwolf 02:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I think it turned out amazing! The only thing i can see is that in the curve of the hind leg the shading is ultra dark and should be softened out slightly, and blended slightly better. Nice work! -- Dawnfeather  talk! 11:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Just make sure all the shading and highlights are blended properly and he'll look great!  Sandy Talk! 18:08, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I blended it a bit more. --Sandiwolf 19:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I like the paintjob, but the ear pink needs to be more inside the actual ear. Also, use this: 20px for reference on how to do the eye. It looks kind of odd right now. --Bramble My Realm 19:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Sloefur's a deputy. --Mal Sorrel-Wolf 18:59, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I just realised that you already have two other images up. The maximum for anyone one time is two images. As this was the last of the three posted, I will decline this one. However, feel free to re-post it once one of the balnks are approved. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 04:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, sorry about that. I didn't know that was a rule. --Sandiwolf 14:03, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Mossfire(W) - Withdrawn by User

[[File:Mossfire.png]] I had another go at tortie markings. What do you think? Any coments/crticism? -- Dawnfeather  talk! 00:40, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

She kinda looks camo--Paramore Freak Nightgaze 05:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

lolness. I actually have to agree. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 09:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I've been thinking about this one and I think Nightgaze is right. I know the paler patches are supposed to be lighter but try darkening them so they're darker than they are now but still lighter than the others... it might make the contrast less... obvious  Sandy Talk! 10:12, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Withdrawing -- Dawnfeather  talk! 11:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Spottedleaf - Withdrawn


I realize she's not that great.... but back when I liked her in Into the Wild I cried when she died and I've always wanted to do a picture of her. Threw my heart and soul into this; please comment so I can make her even better! I tried to make her more of a traditional tortoiseshell, with flecks and dapples instead of patches. --Bramble My Realm 20:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

It looks great; my only comment is that I thought 'traditional' tortoiseshells were just dark with ginger stripes... but I really don't know much about cats XD I'm sadly allergic to them... It really does look good though :) ♫ insaneular ♫ 20:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

She looks awesome, but she's supposed to have a white puzzle & paws and a light brown tabby stripes tail if you look on her page. =)--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 23:14, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

A white chest as well. Boltstar 04:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

White parts added, and I also saturated her pelt a bit and added in a few more patches. How does it look now? Definitely better, I think. Oh, and I didn't do the patches pure white because that looked odd and there are very few things in the wild that have pure white pelts. --Bramble My Realm 17:00, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

It does look better, and I know what you mean about the pure white pelts, but I still think that grey is a bit too dark, it looks weird to my eyes. --♫ insaneular ♫ 17:03, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually it does. Is this shade better? --Bramble My Realm 17:28, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

yeah, it looks a lot better now. I have no more comments on this, it looks ready to me :D ♫ insaneular ♫ 17:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Could you remove the spots on the hind white paw? It looks strange to have the other white patches and then have this one with spots. Looks great though! Mosswisker&Stealthfire 18:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, reuploaded.

Woops, forgot to sign. --Bramble My Realm 19:11, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

In The Sight, when Spottedleaf visits jaykit, it says she has circles of dark fur around her eyes. Wow, she has a lot of description parts, how can she take it? Poor Spottedlef. --Mal Sorrel-Wolf 20:25, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

So hard being beautiful, Spottedleaf. Aww. I tried to add a darker patch around her eye. I tried a ring, but it looked like she was wearing glasses. --Bramble My Realm 21:45, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Shes gorgeous!! She just needs darker fur around her eyes and wallah! SHES awesome!!!! HawkfireMy Den 02:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

The fur around her eye is now darker. Please note: I am going to camp and will not be on Monday through Friday. I leave Sandy in charge. Respect her as you would me. (I pulled that out of Firestar's Quest) :) --Bramble My Realm 22:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

lol Bramble. I think she looks beautiful. Any more comments before approval in 24 hours?  Sandy Talk! 08:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know.... it just doesn't look tortie to me... just black with coloured dots, like those spirits in Brisingr (sorry random thought)(not like I can talk - Mossfire looks like she's wearing camo). I think we should get some more opinions on this before we approve her. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 09:30, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. Does anyone else have any opinions on this?  Sandy Talk! 10:00, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Dawn. It just doesn't look like a tortishell.Minnowclaw 23:26, 14 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

She looks like a starry brown night sky, torties are black...-- Darkhallows  Lair 16:08, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

She should be more brown that black.That way the circles around her eyes could stand out more-- ♪Shimmer 02:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I don’t know how to please all of you. I think from now on I’ll go with my original plan; leave the tortoiseshelling to Dawn, Goldie, and all of the others who can ‘’do’’ tortoiseshells. Withdrawing. --Bramble My Realm 11:05, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Mudfur - Declined


This is my first Charart i didnt know how to do shading i could use a few tips on shading i use Gimp.User:Stonestar

First, both ears don't need pink in them, only the near one. Seconf use the darken and lighten tools (lso called the burn(darken) and dodge(lighten) tools) to add more green transitions on the herbs like Cinderpelt and Yellowfang.
For shading use the darken tool on the back and chest and head and tail and legs and everywhere else. then blend it with the teardrop shaped tool and even it out with the smudge tool if you need to. Highlights are a little hard, but use the dodge tool in the palces you need to. Don't try shading like Honeyfern, Ashfoot, andWhite-eye even though it looks good if you aren't experienced enough. oneday, you can try when you're more experienced. If you have troubles, just ask Bramble, the leader, Sandy, the deputy, or me, GB, and Darkhallows, the senior warriors. --Mal Sorrel-Wolf 22:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, take the pink off the far ear. We are looking at the back of it, where there is no pink! =D -- Dawnfeather  talk! 07:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion, the ear pink on the ear it's supposed to be on is too big. Otherwise, just shade it. :) Silvertree 12:42, 9 July, 2009 (UTC)

I'm still working on the shading i fixed the ear and the herbs.User:Stonestar

There is a bit of green on his whiskers. Also, the eye needs a puil and highlight. (see some approved iamges for reference). The ear pink needs blending.  Sandy Talk! 08:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Ro make shading colour the outside edge of the colouring a darker clour and then blend it into the pelt. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 23:30, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Bramble is not being mean, but this has sat here too long with barely any changes done to it, and the page is full of other images. I think we should say this; don’t put an image on this page without some attempt at shading. If you don’t know how to do it, then ask another warrior. Stonestar, you may resubmit when you’ve made changes, but be sure you can use shading then. --Bramble My Realm 22:20, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Raggedpelt- Declined

[[File:Raggedpelt.png]] This is my unfinished Raggedpelt. Could somebody make the background transparent, please. This is not up for approval. Boltstar 23:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I changed it. Unfortunately I had to upload it as a .png format instead of .PNG format (they're not the same thing). Do you want it to be up for approval now? --Bramble My Realm 00:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I uploaded it as a .png, but in my post, the lowercase just said Raggedpelt.png in red. When I changed it to uppercase, it showed up. Edit: Or at least, that's what it said when I saved it to my computer. Edit: Now it's ready. Boltstar 00:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Alright. I like his color. It's a very pretty brown. But your tabby stripes need to stretch out more into the main pelt area, and be darker, I can barely see them. Make them slightly thicker as well; if you need help look at some of our approved tabby warriors for reference. Make the ear pink more like a hot pink color, and make sure to add shading on his back, chest, hind leg curve, forelegs, forehead, and tail. This is a great first start, though. Looking forward to seeing some of your other work! :) --Bramble My Realm 01:58, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I've been working on it for days. Define hot pink please. Boltstar 02:34, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I think the ear color is fine, but that it needs to be blended. Otherwise I agree with Bramble. -- Darkhallows  Lair 08:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I did blend it.... are you supposed to blend it all at once? And Bramble, where on the tail do I shade? Boltstar 13:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but blend as in blur. The ear pink stands out sharply, we need a more soft transition. And hot pink as in like this color: [[File:Pixel.png|10px]]. --Bramble My Realm 21:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

And the tail? Boltstar 01:31, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

For the tail I'd suggest a thin line of shading on the underside, fading out about 3/4 of the way up. That's what I normally do.  Sandy Talk! 11:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

There is a white lone in his ear. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 04:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean by 'lone'? It's his ear rip. Boltstar 05:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I think Dawnfeather means "line". It looks a bit unnatural. Try to use a V shape like Tigerclaw's pic or make it jaggedy(xD). I hope I'm not confusing you any.... By blending they mean using the smudge(pixlr) or blur(GIMP) to belnd the shading into the pelt so it looks realistic. I can't really see any shading, so maybe increase it some and blend. =)--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 15:43, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know you needed to blend the shadeing. I'll see what I can do. (And why is jagged funny here?) Boltstar 17:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I think that was because she didn't say jagged she said jaggedy . :) Now, try making the tabby stripes a touch darker, slightly more thick, and add some more on the tail and foreleg. You don't have to use the 'y' shape for all of them as well, you can just use lines, as long as they're not perfectly straight. Also add a marking like this ~ except turn it about 30 degrees to the right and put it about a pixel away from the eye. You can look at Runningwind for ref if you need help. --Bramble My Realm 17:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I'll do that. Boltstar 17:37, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

How do I make the rip transparent? Boltstar 22:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Use the eraser tool. Or at least that's what I do. --Bramble My Realm 02:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Does anyone have anymore ear rip suggestions? I've lost count of how many times I've tried and they all don't look right. Boltstar 04:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

You could take a quick look at Tornear's pixel - I had to do an ear rip there. I can't exactly remember how I did it but I just took a few pixels out of the lineart and then created a 'v' by drawing in the outline...  Sandy Talk! 08:13, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

How does this look? Boltstar 16:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I can barely even tell that there's shading. GB57 15:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with GB, thre needs to be shading, and I think the stripes could be thicker blended a bit more. Silvertree 21:50, 8 July, 2009 (UTC)

I might not be able to work on this for a week, just to let everyone know in advance. Boltstar 04:06, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for putting up a notice, but this has been here for a long time now, and the tabby stripes don't look at all natural or good. Look at some of the other approved tabbies, try to imitate their style. Make the stripes thicker and branch them out into the torso area and add some more on the tail,legs. Resubmit when you've made changes. --Bramble My Realm 22:20, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Kittypet Blanks- Declined

[[File:FKL1.png]][[File:FKS1.png]][[File:MKL1.png]][[File:MKS1.png]] I swear this is the last thing I'll do today, so I don't flood the list. anyways, I saw that Kittypet Blanks were being CONSIDERED. So if they are ever needed, I made these.

--Sandiwolf 15:50, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The bodies are too big for the head, make the head bigger or the body smaller. Also, the bodies look to muscular when kittypets are supposed to be softer. The tails on the long hairs' still look like they are cut. Also, on the long hairs, the collars look like they have been cut, is that fur?Minnowclaw 16:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The ears are a very strange shape - perhaps make them thinner and slightly more pointed. Also, the longhaired tails look a bit like candyfloss - get rid of some of the small lines. Their backs are very flat and there is some discrepancy between the two longhaired versions - either make the back fluffy or not. Also, the lineart needs to be thicker to fit in with the existing blanks.  Sandy Talk! 18:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Minnow: I made the bodies a tad smaller. They're also meant to look fat, not muscular. Furthermore, yes, that is in fact fur. Sandy: I'm not used to doing thickly outlined drawings, but I did my best to edit them. I added fur to the longhair male's back, and fixed the longhair tails. The ears? I made them thinner and taller.--Sandiwolf 19:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I just looked on the reservations page and Dawnfeather has already reserved Kittypet blanks...  Sandy Talk! 19:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Awhhh. T.T

I should really be more observant. When I'm not it results in my Depression. There goes another day of wasted work. I'll find something eventually, but for now, would you like me to take these down?--Sandiwolf 19:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Are you using MS paint?Summer is here!!!!!!!!!! 19:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

For these, yes. My good old MS Paint and a mouse. --Sandiwolf 19:57, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it won't be wasted. You can talk to Dawnfeather and if she still wants to do them, get rid of the collar and they can be loners or rouges.Minnowclaw 20:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I don't mind. Your's are much better, and I was going to take down that thing tonight unless I could get some good progress from them today. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 08:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Cave-guards. --Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 22:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Same thing with the hind legs as I said on your other pics. Make the transition more natural. --Bramble My Realm 23:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Mine are not as good as these. I have had a lot of trouble with mine as I started them in paint... Anyways. these are more in our style and look good. Kittypets, or CaveGuards, Rogues, Loners. I think they would work whatever. - Dawnfeather talk! 06:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the back leg, and thank you Dawnfeather.--Sandiwolf 13:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that you should fiddle around with the chin a bit to make it a bit rounder and lower, so it will be more in the style of the other blanks. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 11:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Can do. I'll try and get to it this afternoon, but I have a birthday party to go to today, so the schedule's tight. --Sandiwolf 15:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

I rounded out the chin the best I could. Is that all? --Sandiwolf 18:20, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I love them, and maybe it's just me, but I image kittypets to be a little less masculine... --MUMBLE785 17:02, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

They're fat. =U --Sandiwolf 22:31, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I have two kitttypets and one of them is on my lap right now. 'Fat' is a really good way to put it! Ahhh! Puss moved! ooowwww.....

Well anyway, I think that these are really good. I'll make an example (because I like being the blank tester person =D ) -- Dawnfeather  talk! 00:23, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

[[File:Princess.png]] Here you go. Very usuable blanks. I think that they should be approved, but first i think that we need to get rid of the large amount of excess space around them as it is like a large unneed border. I can do this for you if you like. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 00:49, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, yeah, if you could trim them it would be well appreciated. ^.^ --Sandiwolf 02:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I made the frames smaller. I think that they should be approved. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 11:59, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

There are still a few minor details. I like th eears you've used for your male shorthaired; put them on all the others, because they look rather pointed. There's also that issue with the angles on the hindlegs that I commented on in your to'be's section. --Bramble My Realm 18:38, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

This has not been worked on in over two weeks. They are SO close to approval, it is a shame to decline them, but they haven't been worked on in over two weeks. If you fix the ears, be sure to post them again. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 05:48, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

To-be Blanks - Declined


These were going to be for Deputy, but I saw that Deputy blanks were already made, and New Warrior Blanks were Desired. How about these ones? Male and Female Shorthairs and Longhairs. (Wow, I'm just spitting out artwork lately o3o. I have too much time on my hands) - Sandiwolf 

They're good, but to small, make them a little bit bigger. Also, I think the nose might be too long, make it the littlest bit shorter.Minnowclaw 16:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Oh afterthought, the lines on the tail of the long hair looks like they've been cut. Also, It was just thought that we needed more girlish cats for the warriors, these are way different and we would have to redo all of the other blanks when we could just do a little fix. Maybe you can work on that? (Don't get me wrong, these are great.)Minnowclaw 17:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I'm glad you like them, and as a note: MS Paint + Bigger = pixelated fail. Dx. But anywho, under Desirable Blanks, it stated specifically this:


       * Warrior
             o More feminine looking Female Longhair Base
             o More masculine looking Male Longhair Base 

So I assumed that a new female and male blank were needed. D= --Sandiwolf 19:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes that is true, but we have many warrior pictures already approved. It would take a very long time to redo them with the new blanks unless they had been a quick fix. Put your work to the test. These bases are really great and can be used in other parts maybe. Also, I'm only a warrior in the project. So if a senior warrior or Bramble thinks we can use these, well, I don't have the power to say anything against it.Minnowclaw 20:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

They look a little to... cute to be warriors. Maybe Tribe To-be's? They look young. But I really love them and they should be used as something.-- Darkhallows  Lair 21:26, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Could we use them as apprentice blanks? Please don't ban me for saying this, as I'm not bashing the apprentice blanks but just criticizing them, but I never really liked them that much. Don't get me wrong, they're good, but they look like they needed more work before they were approved. But I really really really like these! I definitely want to use them as something! --Goldencloud 21:32, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The heads look cartoony, and I think we don't need a completely new base, just modify the old one. Because then, what about the other accepted cats made with the old ones? Plus, they look like wolves. I think tribe-to-be's would be the best use for these. --Mallinois Cinder-Wolf 22:36, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I didn't show up sooner, i had marching band camp. Welcome to PCA, Sandiwolf. :) These look great, though I agree with Mallinois and Darkhallows they'd be better used as tribe to-be's. About 3/4's of our approved images are warriors, and it would take too long to redo all of them. Now, on the images, the she-cats need whiskers (in kittykat world, the females have whiskers :) And the lineart needs to be thickened to go with our other blanks. Also, the hind legs on all of them is bent at a right angle, make it a bit more natural. That's about it for now. Great job! --Bramble My Realm 23:18, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I reckon they could be something from the Tribe. Cave Guard, Prey Hunter, or To-Be. - Dawnfeather talk! 06:13, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree in that we shouldn't really change the warrior blanks as we'll have to start the whole project basically from scratch... I like these for to-bes though!  Sandy Talk! 08:16, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Again the lineart needs to be thicker in keeping with all the current blanks.  Sandy Talk! 13:35, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the legs and thickened the lineart. --Sandiwolf 13:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Are they prey-hunter to-bes or cave guard to-bes? Also, you need to thicken the line art on the short hairs and all around to blank. Minnowclaw 01:01, 25 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

To me I think they should be prey-hunter to-bes becuse that they look swifter. (The long-haired she-cat still has no wiskers.)--Yai-Girl 21:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I'm with Yai-girl. These should be To-Be Preyhunters. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 04:59, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Prey Hunter To-bes sound fine to me. When I can, I'll thicken the missed areas of the lineart and add those whiskers!(I keep forgetting!) --Sandiwolf 15:08, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Make sure all the muzzels are the same.Minnowclaw 16:18, 27 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The long-haired she-cat still doesn't have wiskers.--Yai-Girl 03:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but what are those weird dots on the long haired male and females necks? It's more noticeable on the female then on the male. --:LST DragonClan's Camp 04:03, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

It's fur along the neck(or on the side of the face). Also, pardon how long it's taking me to edit these. Getting a consistent look on ALL four of them is a time taxing feat. I keep messing it up, and I'm starting to lose patience for these x3. If anyone wants to help out, ti would be appreciated. --Sandiwolf 18:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

They look awesome. --MUMBLE785 16:32, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[[File:Splash Tobe.png]]

I went ahead and did an example for you - Splash when Fish Leaps from Outcast. I had no problems with these blanks. Mosswisker&Stealthfire 22:43, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

In the blanks the head looks fine because you can tell thatkit's head has turned around to look behind them, but when coloured it just looks like it's on backwards. Could you, like cut it off at the neck and flip it? -- Dawnfeather  talk! 06:35, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean about it appearing backwards. x3 Maybe we can see if some of the others agree? --Sandiwolf 02:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


I do agree, but I believe the head doesn't need to be turned around. I did a random to-be; adding in a sort of curve so it looks more natural. Does this look better, Dawn? And are you alright with it, Sandiwolf? --Bramble My Realm 03:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I like the version Bramble coloured (with the extra neck line). I think the main problem is that all four look different; they need to be consistent.  Sandy Talk! 16:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I was trying to give the females a more feminine build, and the males a more masculine build. That's why they look different. --Sandiwolf 19:18, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Consistency is an issue here. Two of them look like they have thickened lineart, but the others don't, and the sharp angles on their hind legs are still there. It looks unnatural. Also, I think you should go with my shoulder idea, just because I think it will improve the images. --Bramble My Realm 18:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I like Bramble's shoulder idea, it would make the shoulder look a lot better. Plus the lineart issue. I think I like the muzzle on the cat on the far right the very most. I think it's okay to have the head turned, it makes the blank more interesting. --Goldencloud 05:41, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

These haven't been touched in at least 8 days. Please work on them or they'll have to be declined.  Sandy Talk! 15:53, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Declined. Please resubmit when you've worked on getting them consistent.  Sandy Talk! 12:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Mudpuddle- Declined


Now that my work on Duskfur is settling down, I'm putting my deputy of ancient Windclan. The name interested me. Improvements? Silvertree 22:13, 11 July, 2009 (UTC)

The ear colour is too bright, fluro, and unnatural. That applies to Duskfur as well.

Also, the shading needs more blending. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 04:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

The ear is too small and you need to blend the shading more.Minnowclaw 11:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

REUPLOADED Fixed the ear and blended a bit more. Silvertree 6:45, 12 July, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm... his description is that of a brown and white cat... I think he needs more white. Make the patches less regular and rounded as they look like he's been splodged with white emulsion. Add more shading and blend it in more. Also, the white on the tail looks too... well-placed. Try and extend it a little down the tail to make it more natural. The ear needs to be more triangular and less bright. Blend.  Sandy Talk! 10:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Like sandy said, he need more white, thin the shadding a bit and blend it more. Last make the ear pink lighter and blend a bit more. If you do all of this, he should be good.Minnowclaw 17:09, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

You might want to work on this, it almost hasn't been worked on for a week.Minnowclaw 01:04, 18 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It had been a week and you will need to work on this or it will be declined.Minnowclaw 02:30, 19 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Minnowclaw's right. Please work on this in 24 hours or it will be declined.  Sandy Talk! 12:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

If it's already been a week, than it needs to be declined. Declining. GB57 15:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Rainsplash (D) - Declined

[[file:rainsplash.gif]] [[file:rainsplash2.gif]]

This is my first try at a warrior/deputy (as opposed to an apprentice), so I might have gotten the shading a little wrong. Same for the spots, I wasn't sure exactly how many to put, how close together they should be, or how much to blend, so I sort of just did what looked right. Comments? --♫ insaneular ♫ 15:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

You're a natural :) Add some shading on the head and curve of the hindleg. He looks great though!  Sandy Talk! 18:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Reuploaded, image on the right I tried to make the shading more dramatic in those areas, but it didn't seem to make much of a difference (that's why I put the new image next to the original, for comparison). I don't really get where I should put more shading on the head; I already highlighted the top and put a small shadow under the muzzle. Does it look any better now? ♫ insaneular ♫ 20:15, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I love his flecks. :) I don't really think he needs shading, you've aleady done a great job on that. Maybe some on the far ear, though. Also, the eye, to me, looks odd. Use this: 45px for reference. This is the best way on how to do an eye. --Bramble My Realm 17:44, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

I love this! My fave is the second and I think that should be approved.MinnowclawMinnowclaw

(M) - The second one looks great! But don't color in that space in between the paws. (I can show you where if you don't understand.) Mosswisker&Stealthfire 01:33, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm reluctant to decline this as it is really very good. You need to uncolour the space as Moss said and make the ear pink more triangular. If this isn't worked on in 24 hours it'll have to be declined as it hasn't been worked on for 10 days. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 15:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Declined. Please feel free to re-submit once the necessary improvements have been made. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 19:34, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Medicine cat apprentice- Declined


Lavastream said I could do these... here's one... --Snowflurry 13:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The herbs look messy because you didn't erase the line of the chin underneath the herbs. I'll be able to see it more clearly and give you moare instructions when it is gone. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 23:26, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The image looks very....pixely like you saved it as a .jpg file.-- ♪Shimmer 00:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, I think the herbs are too small and they're not clearly defined.  Sandy Talk! 14:09, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Changed the herbs, and changed it to PNG, is there a better one i should do?--Snowflurry 15:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

It's still pixly. Make the herbs like the one on the medicine cat.Minnowclaw 23:14, 14 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Please work on these in 24 hours or they will have to be declined. --Bramble My Realm 21:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Declined Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 19:52, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Nightpelt - Declined

[[File:Nightpelt Shorthaired.png|thumb]]

This is Nightpelt, ShadowClan's leader Nightstar as a warrior. He's my very first character art so tell me what ever I could do to make it better! --Nightflight 20:45, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

The eye needs to be bigger and amber instead of red, and the right ear needs to show the inside, and it looks like the back is lower in the middle. Boltstar 20:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Your shading style is lovely, it looks like his pelt is gleaming. But the black needs to be lighter so we can see the lineart. You can look at Hollyleaf, Nightcloud or Breezepelt for reference. Use this:[[File:Eyediagram.jpg|20px]] for reference on how to do the eye. Also, I thought Nightpelt was short-haired. But that's all, he looks great other wise. --Bramble My Realm 21:01, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I re-uploaded it. I hope it's still shaded okay. And it says that he's a "old, long furred tom."--Nightflight 21:46, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I think the eye looks absolutely beautiful. The new black color is okay, in my opinion. Boltstar 22:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Very nice eye. And his color is now great and shading still remains good, cept it needs to be blurred just a bit. :) I took it off thumbnail, so I could better look at it. Can you tell me where it said he's long furred? Also; you blurred some of the lineart; on the tip of the head, right beside the ear, in the middle of the back, and on part of the tail. You need to replace the lineart in those spots. This is a great first image. --Bramble My Realm 22:15, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

It says that he's long furred on his page, Nightstar. --Nigthflight 22:25, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I need a book reference. There's an anon running around that loves to add false details into descriptions. All Nightpelt is in the books I've read is an old black tom. --Bramble My Realm 22:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I've checked every book he's in and mentioned; he's not longhaired. I changed his article, as well. Sorry for the mixup. :) I can convert him to shorthaired, if you want. I won't change anything you've done with his coloring. --Bramble My Realm 23:04, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I know. I was wondering about that. I am working on changing him now, I'll like that. --Nigthflight 00:54, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh I am so sorry! I was the one who put that he was long furred on his page. I always imagined him like that. I do know he is a black tom with amber eyes tho. SOrry! HawkfireMy Den 02:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I did too, I kinda thought that he looked like Yellowfang, long, ruffled fur. It's alright! :) --Nigthflight 03:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

He needs some ear pink :)  Sandy Talk! 10:16, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

The outline is blurred all the way around. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 11:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I redid him. He is shorthaired, and has ear pink. Hope the shading is okay still. --Nigthflight 23:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Comments before approval? -- Dawnfeather  talk! 11:04, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I can barely see the ear pink. I know he's a black cat but it still needs to be visible...  Sandy Talk! 13:32, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I made him lighter. Hopefully he's better. --Nigthflight 00:31, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I still can't see the ear pink. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 13:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I can BARELY see the ear pink, it's almost black. --:LST DragonClan's Camp 19:50, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

HE isn't the problem. The EAR is the problem. Use this for the color:[[File:Ear.jpg]]Minnowclaw 17:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

No don't. Use this colour as he's a black cat: 20px The ear pink for dark-coated cats needs to be darker.  Sandy Talk! 08:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't bene worked on in a week. Please work on him in 24 hours or he will be declined. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 10:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. Please feel free to resubmit after improvements, Nightflight Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 13:26, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Scourge - Declined

[[File:Scourge.charart.png]] well, my first charart. i decided to do scourge. i couldn't make a collar with thorns without messing up the paint so i made hin in the leader blank using paint. how is it?rainpelt

Try making him lighter so then we can see the lineart. Also he has a the bone colar. Very nice job on the paw . --Spottedwing 01:55, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Was scourge really a leader? He was just part of a group of rogues that basically wasn't a clan. Sandwich989 02:22, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Sandwhich. He was a leader, but of rouges, which isn't the same as, say, being like scourgestar:). I thik you should wait for rouge blanks to be approved.Minnowclaw 10:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw i added the bone collar, lightened up the black, and blended the ears better rainpelt

Following a recent discussion we had on BloodClan cats it was decided they would be classed as rogues as they aren't real Clan cats. Therefore I'm going to have to decline this for incorrect blank. Sorry Rainpelt. I would advise you choose a cat who definitely fits the blank so this problem doesn't occur again. A good place to start is always with a warrior as the shading for them is among the easiest. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 12:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Do worry rainpelt, your not the only one who's first image was on the wrong blank. Sandwich989 18:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Blackstar(W)- Declined


This is my first Charcat, so I would like some tips on where and how to make them, because I can't do nice blurred shading on MS Paint, so, what are you people doing? O_o Critisism welcome. By the way, I made the feet lighter black, but just REALLYYY hard to see that. -Fernpool

Not bad for your first try, but add shading, ear pink (make sure to blend it), and make the eye look alive. Make the feet slighter lighter than pure black, so we can see the lineart. Blend the shading once you add it on Blackfoot. I highly recommend using Pixlr, Photoshop, or GIMP. Try fixing Blackstar on I use paint to color, make ear pink, and adding tabby stripes, Paint is not very recommended (unless you know how to use it like me!) HawkfireMy Den 22:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Look at Cloudtail for a reference on shading and ear pink. --Spottedwing 22:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC

Hi, and welcome :) The programme I recommend for new artists who don't have a good programme already downloaded is You can also invest in Photoshop or download Gimp free. You need to make the black slightly paler (a kind of dark grey) so it is seperate from the lineart. Thne make the white a very very pale grey so shading can be added. Take the burn tool (or a slightly darker colour) to add shading on the top of the head, back, tail, belly, chest and legs. Then blend it all in and go from there. I really would advise you to stay clear of pant (no matter how good you are at using it.)  Sandy Talk! 12:31, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

His black feet look like socks, you need to blend them.--Yai-Girl 01:12, 21 July 2009 (UTC) Yai-Girl

This hasn't been worked on in awhile, Fernpool. It's been over a week. If you don't make improvements soon on it it'll be declined.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 18:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Declined per Warrior. GB57 22:20, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Squirrelflight (q)-declined

[[File:Squirrelflight-queen-user;firepelt.png.png|thumb]] this is my first ever charcat,i forgot i needed to shade her,and blend it in a bit more,but im still proud its my first charcat --Firepelt 16:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

She was never pregnant. Boltstar 17:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether she would be classified as a queen; she never was pregnant (as far as we know) but she was in the nursery with kits for a few moons before taking up her warrior duties again. Bramble?

As for the image, make the ears and nose a paler shade of pink. Add shading to the pelt (look at Willowpelt's queen version for help with where to put shading. Make sure the shading is blended in properly. If you don't have a decent photo-editing programme use Also, she needs tabby markings as her warrior version has. Look at her page and try and imitate those markings. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 17:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

This is pretty good for your first image. However, Squirrelflight needs tabby markings and she should also be long-haired (look at her warrior pixel).  Jane Volturi  (talk!) 18:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, now that I think about it I did answer another user on this as well. I don't think she should be a queen after all; she never was pregnant. FirePelt, if you still want to do Squirrelflight, you can do her as an apprentice, or as a kit, adding in teh comments that Sparrowsong and Sandy said. --Bramble My Realm 21:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I know Squirrelflight was never a queen,but i though it would be interesting to see what she would look like as a queen.But,i'm still proud. --Firepelt 01:50, 26 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

[[File:Squirrelflight-queen-tabby-firepelt.png.png|thumb|my new squirrelflight for approval]] Here is my new squirrelflight for approval-I KNOW SHE WAS NOT A QUEEN,I WANTED TO SEE WHAT SHE LOOKED LIKE AS A QUEEN,SAYING SHE'S THE MOTHER OF JAYFEATHER,LIONBLAZE,AND HOLLYLEAF,EVEN THOUGH I KNOW LEAFPOOL AND CROWFEATHER ARE THE SIR AND DAME. --Firepelt 02:09, 26 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

She was never a queen, so incorrect blank. User may resubmit with different blank. --Bramble My Realm 02:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Blossomkit (TC)- Moved

[[File:Blossomtc.png]] Worst. Image. Ever. Meh, I did the other one so... Sorry I was gone for a few days.-- Darkhallows  Lair 01:27, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

It's not the worst image ever. :) Make the ginger patches a bit more spread out, and since she's tortie maybe add in some ginger specks on the black to make it look more broken up, and not like she's just black with white and ginger patches. She's actually really good right now. --Bramble My Realm 02:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I like it! Try making the ginger patches darker though. They look golden. Mosswisker&Stealthfire 19:12, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Played around with the ginger. Darkhallows  Lair 04:17, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I think it looked better before... Also, the ginger needs to be redder as it's kinda golden now (as M&S mentioned)  Sandy Talk! 14:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

(M) - The ginger's still golden...also, there are jagged lines through the ginger patches. Mosswisker&Stealthfire 18:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

The patches look more yellow than ginger. Silvertree 17:39, 30 June, 2009 (UTC)

Any better now?-- Darkhallows  Lair 17:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Much, although those ginger patches still have those lines through them... Mosswisker&Stealthfire 18:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Ginger on torties has stripes ^^.-- Darkhallows  Lair 07:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I actually really like it now!  Sandy Talk! 15:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Oh, sorry. I've never actually seen a torishell up close, to be honest. Mosswisker&Stealthfire 18:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

This is one of the best torties I've ever seen. :) And you said it was the worst image ever, DH. Comments before approval? --Bramble My Realm 19:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

This is wonderful, but the ginger looks golden,a dn could be more orange-coloured. --Mal Sorrel-Wolf 15:37, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

... I think it's be to dark if I changed it... any other opinions on it? -- Darkhallows  Lair 07:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I like it as it is but you could try it with a more orange colour and put them side by side to see...  Sandy Talk! 11:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I appoligize for sounding whiny but it looks horrible whenever I try to change it. I think it will have to stay like this :/.-- Darkhallows  Lair 08:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't have a problem. Anyone else?  Sandy Talk! 13:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

The black of her tortie pelt has turned very gray. it needsto be a stronger/darker black (but light enough that you can still see the line art) -- Dawnfeather  talk! 00:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I might not be able to tell because they're small, but it looks like you forgot to color the eyes... I might just be mistaken if they're colored dark, but it looks like the fur color... --♫ insaneular ♫ 23:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Please note that I will be gone untill Friday as I am going to the beach. I may have internet acsess... but probably not. Gah I just got back from camping -dead- --Darkhallows is on a cellphone and can't make tildes

My computer is broken, but I'll work on when I get home (I'm at a class thinggy now...)-- Darkhallows  Lair 16:11, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Darkened.-- Darkhallows  Lair 05:39, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, Repeating 24 hours before approval  Sandy Talk! 10:29, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I love it! It's actually pretty close to the color of a real tortie, especially now that you've darkened the black. The white patches could be a little bit more petal-shaped, though.  Sparrowsong  (talk!) 21:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I can barely see the pink on her right (our left) ear.-- ♪Shimmer 21:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

It's been a week since this has been worked on. It's so close to approval but if no work is done within 24 hours it will have to be declined. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 13:16, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I honestly believe that this isn't worth declining. It's very good, and there really is nothing wrong with it. Shimmer, as you think the ear pink on the right ear is too pale, why don't you ask Darkhallows to change it later? I don't think this is worth declining, archiving, then having been put back up to do one minor change. If you are all extremely against this, then decline it, and Shade can put it up later. But if not, let it be approved, and tweaked slightly later. --Bramble My Realm 23:19, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I only thionk that images should be approved if there is nothing that can be fixed. The whole idea of this system is to not let anything that could be better through, right? Therefore, I don't think it should be approved yet, but I too don't know about declining it -- Dawnfeather  talk! 23:32, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Fair point, Dawn. It's just it's been here since the end of June.. and I want it off this page. ;) Hopefully, it won't have to be decided if Darkhallows comes back soon. --Bramble My Realm 23:35, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I know. That's why I couldn't quite bring myself to actually decline it for such a minor change. We can't leave it here too long thouh as it's unfair to those users who have their images declined after a week. It's such an easy fix though... Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 10:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

It can't stay up any longer. But when Darkhallows gets back, we're dragging her here by her heels and making her finish this image. ;) --Bramble My Realm 23:26, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, I'd love to work on it. IInfact I've been tring to. But my computer is broken and the one I'm on is the slowest computer ever. It also doesn't like transparent images, so even though I have GIMP on it, it doen't work. I will be trying to get my computer fixed or replaced ASAP.-Darkhallows is logged in.

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