Graypaw - Withdrawn by User


Not my best image. I don't know why it's showing up black, could someone fix it for me?Minnowclaw 02:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Did you save the thumbnail version because it looks a bit smaller than the full size image and it looks as if you saved it as the original jpg file. No problem since you have to get the regular size, save that lineart as png instead of jpg.-- ♪Shimmer 05:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
I put it as png, but it's still black.Minnowclaw 14:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It probably looked smaller as it was black, because it's the right size. I've changed the bg to transparent for you Minnow. On the image, he looks a bit pixelated on some parts of his pelt, maybe blur those parts. Otherwise, he's very good. --Bramble My Realm 20:42, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Bramble! Could you draw me a diagram so I know where I need to blur?Minnowclaw 22:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

If it turns out we need one, I'll make a diagram, but I think I can explain it. Just the basic front side of his body; the chest, his face, the upper edge of his tail, his belly, his forelegs, and his hind leg haunch. It looks speckled, or pixelated in those areas. --Bramble My Realm 02:10, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Withdrawing.Minnowclaw 16:49, 29 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Brook where small fish swim - Withdrawn by User

[[File:Brook where small fish swim.png]]

I don't know how to make a transparent background. Could a very kind person do this for me?Minnowclaw 02:38, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Done :) Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 16:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch! Is there anything I can improve on Sandy?Minnowclaw 17:23, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Yes, sorry. I didn't have time to comment properly earlier. Make the eye more orange as it's hard to distinguish it from her pelt right now. Also, the tabby markings are very scratchy. Try thickening them and making them slightly smoother. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 19:49, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Blend the tabby markings.  Jane Volturi  (talk!) 19:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

I thikened it the smallest bit ad it looked like this.Minnowclaw 23:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

The Tribe's pelts are streaked with mud. I think you shoud put in a few random lineish mud streaks (Make them lumpy, wavy, and irregular. Mud brown is a bit darker and not bright, but rather dull) -- Dawnfeather  talk! 01:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Brook's eyes are gray, not amber. But anyway good looking image. Sandwich989 07:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I think she looks good. Comments before approval? --Bramble My Realm 23:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The eyes and mud streaks still need doing.. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 23:56, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

You'd have permission to slap me if you met me in real life, Dawn. So sorry, was practically asleep on my paws when I wrote that... yes, fix the eyes and add mud streaks. Also, now I look again, there's a mark near the shoulder that looks like an upside down K. Change it so it looks more natural. --Bramble My Realm 03:16, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Withdrawing.Minnowclaw 16:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I'm sorry to see these withdrawn. They looked good. --Bramble My Realm 00:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

kittypet blanks - declined

I made some kittypet blanks and I uploaded them onto the upload log but I don't know how to put them on this page so maybe you could go check it out, it's my first time so you can criticise as much as you'd like.Bracken- 05:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

[[File:Kittypetblank3.jpg]][[File:Kittypetblank2.jpg]][[File:Kittypetblank4.jpg]][[File:Kittypetblank.jpg]] Here they are, I put them on the page for you. Could you maybe thicken up the lineart by a pixel? Thanks.

And definitely make them much smaller! lol -- Dawnfeather  talk! 07:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

There are already Kittypet blanks up for approval, Bracken-. It's kind of considered against the project etiquette to submit the same character/blank set that another user is already working on. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 09:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to the fact that Yai is currently working on kittypet blanks. Bracken-, before you sumbit again, make sure no one else is doing the same as you. --Bramble My Realm 00:51, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Stormfur - Declined

[[File:Stormfur.png]] Stormfur. Comments? Criticism? Feel free. Bracken- 17:43, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I'm declining this, not because it's bad, but because a new member may only have one image up for approval until their first is approved when they may then submit two at a time. I'm declining this as Birchfall was put up first. Work on him to get him approved and then you can put Stormfur back up. Try and learn from Birchfall so you don't repeat the same mistakes :) Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 19:27, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Icewhisker(MC) - Withdrawn

[[File:Icewhisker.png]] I know how horrible it is. xP My first textured cat. I kinda liked the way he came out... The first version I tried of him was... well, you don't really want to know. xD I was really bored and wanted to work on something so.. tada!--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 22:40, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

It's really nice,just blend the coloring a bit more,and ton down,just a bit on the shading on the herbs,they look totally black,if you fix that,it will seem alright.--Firepelt 01:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

He's silver gray, so the black streaks need to come out. Just make him sort of a combo between silver and gray. He looks great otherwise. --Bramble My Realm 01:02, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I updated it, but the changes aren't showing yet.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 14:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Um.. What's with the black streaks? Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 14:28, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Grr. It's not oing it right. I'll have to upload it again .But I have to go now.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 16:06, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I took the black out, and lightened the herbs a tad. --Warrior♥Warrior's Den 00:13, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Why's he all strange and stripey? It looks like you've used a textured brush and just coloured him all in... try and make his colour a pale-silver/grey but make it more of a solid colour as it says nothing about him being a textured cat... Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 18:40, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to withdraw this for now.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 19:03, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Duskfur (W)- Declined


Okay, I wanted to try a tabby, so I did Duskfur of Riverclan. I was so mad because I finished it, saved it wrong, and then was unable to reopen and resave it, so I had to redo the entire picture. So much trouble for a cat. -.- Improvement tips? Silvertree 21:38, 10 July, 2009 (UTC)

The tabby marks look like they were made with water colors, you can see through them and they looked liquidy. There also needs to be some more of them, slightly smaller and more thin. --Bramble My Realm 17:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated. I re-did all the stripes. Are they opaque enough? Silvertree 16:57, 11 July, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, much better. You just need to add a stripe on her haunch near the tail, where that gap is, and also add a marking by her eye. She looks awesome now. --Bramble My Realm 21:49, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Never mind the eye comment. --Bramble My Realm 21:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated Added the tabby mark. Anything else? Silvertree 18:11, 11 July, 2009 (UTC)

Blend the tabby markings more and make them more subtle.MinnowclawMinnowclaw

The ear looks shrunk. Little more ear pink, please. GB57 17:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated' Fixed the ear and blended the tabby marks.

The markins are very dark - try lightening them a little and then blending them slightly more so they look more natural. Also, the ear pink is too fluro and needs to be more triangle shaped (make sure you blend though). [ps. please sign with four ~s]  Sandy Talk! 10:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Your need to BLEND a lot more on the tabby marking and shading.Minnowclaw 23:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I really hate to do this but this hasn't been worked on for a while either, almost a whole week I believe since Silvertree's last posted wasn't stamped I can't really tell. I give it a 24 hour notice before it shall be declined for good.-- ♪Shimmer 18:26, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated So sorry, I forgot to edit when I was busy with something else for another website. I blended the marks some more. Silvertree 21:28, 20 July, 2009 (UTC)

Your image isn't showing up. Please upload the right image, Silvertree :) Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 10:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, there we go. I had forgotten to upload it (like a smart person.) Silvertree 18:59, 22 July, 2009 (UTC)

The markings nede to be slightly lighter as they stand out a lot. Also, make the ear pink more triangular, lighter and bkend it in. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 13:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Bland markings. Highlight. --MUMBLE785 23:42, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, the ear pink needs to be bigger. GB57 01:58, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree with GB, but other then that I think she's georgus. --Spottedwing 13:57, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated okay, I made them more blended in I had trouble getting satisfied with the eahink I got it. Next? Silvertree 20:21, 26 July, 2009 (UTC)

The ear still seems a bit... round. Add some more color to it then blend. --Warrior♥Warrior's Den 15:31, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Updated Better? Silvertree 18:31, 29 July, 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Something about the tabby stripes is annoying me though. Make them lighter and try varying the length of them more. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 11:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

There should be markings on the further foreleg.-- Darkhallows  Lair 18:49, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Make the tabby marks basically just a shade higher than the main pelt color. Also, on the neck, the angle of the marking there is rather abrupt; make it so it’s coming from the center of the throat. --Bramble My Realm 00:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined in 24 hours. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 20:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work stretching over a week. GB57 18:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Birchstar (SC) (Le) - Withdrawn

[[File:Birchstar(SkyClan).png]] I hope that the black flecks look alright... I did her because I realised that there are THREE Birchstars. I've already made the set on my computer =D. This one is the Birchstar of SkyClan. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 05:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

There should be more spots on the chest, but that's all I really see. Nice job Dawn!-- Darkhallows  Lair 06:05, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Something's up with your siggie Dawn... I agree with Shady though. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 12:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Just do what Shady said and she should be ready for approval. (Three Birchstar's? Common, Erin Hunter!) Oh, and I fixed you siggy so all the text after it doesn't turn orange (The word span had a space in it.) MosswhiskerAndStealthfire 18:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

She absolutely gorgeous, but her descript was never revealed. I checked in the actual book. If you can prove me wrong, this will definitely be approved, but if not, maybe she can be put up as another cat? --Bramble My Realm 22:09, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't have the book, so I can't say. I wouldn't be able to put her up as another cat because I haven't really noticed a large amount of female leadersho are brown with block specks =D. It's a good idea though. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 00:46, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

If you changed the colours so they were more golden then it could be Leopardstar... Ill have a look and see if I can find a reference to her colouring in he book later. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 18:19, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Mal went to look, and there's some anon running around putting fake descriptions on articles. There is no description for her in the books, and in the RyexCloud story she was a tom! So think about rearranging this inot Leopardstar. --Mal Sorrel-Wolf 12:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Sparrowhead has already reserved Leopardstar's leader blank. I don't want to take that unless it remained un-claimed. No, I am just withdrawing it because I can't think of any leaders who i could change it to be (I don't think I could even do Birchstar to Leopardstar without completely re-starting). I will not post another image for a while now because this week I have a rediculous amount of homework and next week I am on a school camp at the snow. However, when I get back the teachers may have finished their home-work spree and I may have time again. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 11:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I hate seeing awesome art withdrawn… L *sigh* --Bramble My Realm 00:31, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Loner Blanks- Declined

[[File:Shelonerlong.png]][[File:Helonerlong.png]][[File:Shelonershort.png]][[File:Helonershort.png]] Here are my first blanks, constructments? And also, I know the tails are suckish, please tell me how to fix them! HawkfireMy Den 15:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Make the ears more foreward-facing. The back one looks a little like hair, not an ear. I think the main problem with the tail is that it comes from the leg. Move it further up.-- Darkhallows  Lair 03:14, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Like this? I curled the tail around the paws instead, I think it looks good like that. I should of noticed the ear :) Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 14:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay, here's a few suggestions to start with and we'll go from there:

  1. The tail is now stuck out from the body at a strange angle... try and bring it closer to thhe body so it partially coveres the paws as if it is actually curled on top of them
  2. The ears are really large and at a strange angle
  3. The facial features are very... comic-like; try and make them look more realistic like the leader or queen blanks.
  4. Also, the left front paw is weird... it looks injured. Try and straighten it when you work on the tail. It should all fit into place Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 19:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

These look even worse but oh well! I changed it up completely, also the paw they are holding out they are grooming. Cats do that. Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 20:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

chance how one of the ears curves, it looks odd-rainpelt

They look like their sitting on their tails... --Blackclaw09 01:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 14:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

For the Long-hairs, make the tails bushier. Make teh ears smaller and more pointy on the top, not rounded. Jaypaw189 16:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC) aka Jayie

Fixed the long haired tails, pointed ears, and added ear pink lineart. Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 18:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Try making the lineart on the females' eyes a little thinner. They look a little bit like they're wearing mascara or eye-liner. ;) They look good other than that. --MUMBLE785 21:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Lol done ;) Anyway I made a charcat of daisy using my blanks! Here she is! Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 16:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


Er... I would take out the ear lineart. You can't blend it that way and it wouldn't look natural.

Fixed. Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 22:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Oops I forgot to sign. That was me. --Warrior♥Warrior's Den 00:39, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

No offense, Hawkey, but these really aren't in the style that we need for lineart. They're too cartoonish, and they need a lot of improvement to be up to standard. Let's stick with coloring images just for now. I'm not trying to be mean, I just think it will take a lot of effort and time to get these approved. You will probably get sick of doing them over often. Blanks are a lot of work. I'm declining these... if you really want to do them, leave a message on my talk page. --Bramble My Realm 03:19, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Shadow (LE) declined

[[File:Shadowstar.png]] I hope this works out better than my Raggedpelt. Boltstar 20:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

blend shading. --rainpelt

The one there now is not mine. It was showing up at first but now Bramble's from awhile ago is. Boltstar 21:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I just had that exact problem with Fireheart!!! What you do is simple: Reupload the image but give it a different name. My old image's name was FireHeart, so I uploaded the new version, but called it Fireheart. ;) --MUMBLE785 22:34, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, it's up now. This stuff happens to me a lot. Well not a lot, but yeah. Boltstar 01:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I like the colour you've chosen for her pelt but you seem to have turned some of the lineart grey too - it needs to be black. Also, add more shading on her bcak, face, neck, shoulders and legs and then blend it in. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 11:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

What parts of the lineart? None of it looks gray to me. Boltstar 13:44, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

The backa nd tail. If you looks closely it's non-existent. It's the same colour as the pelt Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 19:15, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

blend shading--rainpeelt

It's hard to tell because of the small color difference between the pelt and the lines, but I'm pretty sure you went outside the lines a bit on the back... fix that, and the blurred lines in some spots, make the shading smoother and it'll look great :) ♫ insaneular ♫ 23:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

It looks like she's pressed against an invisible wall, like a mime. GB57 23:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The eye is too flat. Put in three pixels of white around the pupil, and then put in lots of shades of green instead of just one. -- Dawnfeather  talk! 12:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Theres no lineart under the tail. Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 13:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I know that Hawkfire, I just haven't gotten around to fixing it. I plan to work on her today though. Boltstar 14:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work through more than a week, and artist not working on it when stating to. --Bramble My Realm 23:10, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Firepaw- Withdrawn


Well here it is it took awile to get the shading good it still needs improvments though hope you like it! Stonestar 15:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

I like the color, Stonestar. But a few things,

  • Theres no pupil in the eye
  • No shading, if there is darken it.
  • Blend the ear pink
  • Maybe add a few barely visible tabby stripes, because all ginger cats are tabbies.

Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 16:07, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok i did do shading but i'll darken it i'll fix the eye and blend the earmore thanks! Stonestar 18:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Is Firepaw short-haired or long-haired? I forgot. --Blackclaw09 21:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Short-haired. Your image is great, stonestar. :) --MUMBLE785 21:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not gonna put the tabby stripes just because the warrior version dosent have it i have to go i 'll get to it tomorrow. Stonestar 22:13, 5 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Don't judge opinions based on my image. The reason I don't have tabby markings on the warrior version is because he looked strange with them. The leader version has them. Try making a copy, then putting tabby markings on it, so you'll still have an original version with tabby stripes, and another with just incase we don't like the way it looks. Also, you need more shading. If you need me to, I can make a diagram for you. ;) Nice image though, his color is perfect. --MUMBLE785 22:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok i'll do one with tabby markings and yes i do need help o shading i use pixlr. Also how do you do good tabby stripes? Stonestar 12:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)Stonestar

Try looking at other approved images. That's the best advice I can give you. --Blackclaw09 13:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Darn! I made you a diagram, but my computer ate it up... Hold on... --MUMBLE785 18:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

!!I am going to Cedar Pointe tomorrow please dont delete this. --StonestarStonestar 14:25, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I suck at tabby stripes/markings, so I can't really help ya' there, but I made a diagram for you. The grey areas are where you need shading, the yellow is where you need highlights, white is where some users may put highlights, red is where some users may put shading:
[[File:Firestar(A) Diagram.png]]
Also, you need to blend more. ;) Other than that, I'd say it's pretty good. --MUMBLE785 20:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I hate to do this but i'm withdrawing this i dont have time to work on this. I'll work on him.--StonestarStonestar 00:53, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (Queen)- Withdrawn by User

[[File:Tawnypelt1.png]] Well, here she is! Comments? Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 19:11, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

The patches & shading need to be blended, and it need more shading. I can't see any on the white part of it.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 19:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

make the orange patches darker.Minnowclaw 12:33, 13 August 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

I think the warrior version Kitsu made should be used, just tweak the eye, whiskers, and nose, and you should make this look like that. This is a calico cat, not a tortie. See Forum:The Difference between Calicos and Tortoiseshells. --Mal Sorrel-Wolf 16:41, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Guys, I am withdrawing this. I have no clue how to do torties like Kitsu did. I am going to put Foxwhisker up instead, withdrawing! Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 17:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Cave-guard Blanks - Withdrawn by user

[[File:Caveguardflong.png]] [[File:Caveguardfshort.png]] [[File:Caveguardmlong.png]] [[File:Caveguardmshort.png]]

I made them a few days ago, but I was waiting until I could get to my computer. Here they are! Comments? --Blackclaw09 01:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The longhaired should have something else besides the few tufts of fur on their chest to show they're long hairs..Or you could make the shorthaired one with a skinner tail.-- Shimmer  03:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure, but to me, They look a bit fat rather than muscular... ---- Bracken-  Leave me a meow!!! 04:04, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

They look all blobby and fat, and the lineart is uneven, and there should be no color, and the longhairs need more tufts around the body. --Mal Sorrel-Wolf 12:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm on it! --Blackclaw09 13:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

They look a little..strange. Maybe thicken the lineart and make them more muscualr. Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 14:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Add a line on the shoulder to define the shoulder muscle. Change the direction of the line at the top of the front leg so it curves the other way. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 20:02, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

This better? Should I thicken the lineart on the back too? --Blackclaw09 20:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

They look like curious kits. User:Forestpaw13

Well they're not kits! They're looking at the sky for hawks. You know, like when the prey-hunters are hunting? (Sorry for getting so mad, I'm just so frustrated.)

Is there anything else I can work on? --Blackclaw09 20:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

These are pretty good! Just one thing: Don't color in the ear pink. ;) --MUMBLE785 22:04, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

separate into 4 pictures<font style=background:black>[[user:rainpelt|<font color="blue" font face="segoe script">rain</font><font color="yellow" font face="segoe script">pelt</font>]]</font> 23:55, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Take out the ear pink, and the paws need the toes like the other blanks. Make there body courve inward like real cats, as they look kind of fat now... You may want to resize them, because they look big to my. The long-hairs need to look more like long hairs, not just have a bigger tail.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 23:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded How are they now? I took out the ear pink and replaced it with an outline, and then I made them a bit smaller. I'm not so sure how to make the body curve though... can anyone explain it to me? --Blackclaw09 17:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Better, but take out the ear pink lineart, too... None of the other blanks have it. And what I meant by making it curve inward is make the stomach gradually curve in. Cave-guards are stocky cats, and they have a built like that. Take the pupil out of the eye in the short-hairs, or add them in the others.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 19:07, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

The other rogue blank has it the ear pink lineart, but I'm not sure whether I should take it out or not. As for the stomach curve, I'll get to work on it tomorrow; my brother's using my laptop for a project. And I don't see a pupil in the eyes. I'll just draw a new eye tomorrow. --Blackclaw09 23:54, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh wait... there shouldn't be any lineart for the ear... I'll take it out when my brother gives me my computer back. --Blackclaw09 23:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the stomach, and ear pink lineart is gone now. Anything else? --Blackclaw09 13:01, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - (Most of these things are quick fixes)

1. The female shorthaired's back haunch isn't connected with the rest of the body.

2. The male longhaired still has ear pink lineart.

3. The male shorthaired's stomach needs thickened lineart, and it needs separtate sections on the toes like the rest of them.

4. Put the shorthaired's tail on the longhaired's, and make the shorthaired's tail much thinner. (Look at the warriors for referance.)

5. Round off their rumps a little bit, they're almost at 90 degree angles.

6. The stomach should go like you had it before, but then about halfway through it should start to go up. (I can draw you a diagram if you want.) MosswhiskerAndStealthfire 15:38, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I'll get to it in the morning. And I'd like the diagram. I'm pretty new at this... --User:Blackclaw09 00:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

How are they now? --[[User:Blackclaw09|<span style="color:Blue">Blackclaw09</span>]] 14:25, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Better. Here's a diagram for the stomach:

[[File:Cave Diagram.png]]

Shrink the nose lineart, like on the diagram, and the same thing goes for the ear. Add the curved line to the paws to indicate that they are flat, and leave a small gap near the tail. These are very good, and just need a few tweaks. MosswhiskerAndStealthfire 17:04, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion, the lower jaw on the long haired male is sort of smashed in, and the they need to be a little bit plumper. ;) Nice work. --MUMBLE785 21:24, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

I will be away tomorrow for the whole day. Please do not decline my images. I will work on them when I get back. --Blackclaw09 01:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I didn't get to work on it today because I had a swim meet and I had to pack for a trip to my cousin's house. I won't get to work on these for the next 2 days because I'm going to my cousin's house and I won't be able to edit these. Please do not decline my images. I will work on them when I get back. --Blackclaw09 01:19, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I hope I spelled it right.... I'm withdrawing the Cave-guard blanks. Maybe I'll try coloring cats next time. --Blackclaw09 12:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

If anyone wants to use these, I'm fine with it. Hopefully they can make them better than I did. :D --Blackclaw09Meow!]] 23:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Ripplestar - Withdrawn

[[File:Ripplestar.png]] It's halloween! xD When I saw his description, I had to do him. :3 Comments?--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 21:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

xD He looks great. But wouldn't his spots be reverse-colored? (Black on orange instead of Orange on Black) --MUMBLE785 21:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it could be either way... But I can't image a orange cat with black spots, because I've seen a black and orange cat that was mainly black with white details.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 21:59, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Lighten the eye just a tad, because he has yellow eyes and these are amber. And try putting orange patches like Tallstar's black patches, I don't really like the spots. (I am not saying that you did bad) :) Hawkfire ♫ Go Aggies! 13:18, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I did a search to see what a black and orange cat would look like and they were really just torites. Here's an example. - Skyfeather '95 16:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't feel guilty, but I had started Ripplestar, and didn't finish him, but mine looks like this:
As I said, He wasn't finished, but I thought you could use him as an example maybe. --MUMBLE785 19:53, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I have to agree with Mumble on how the format of the patches should be. It looks more natural. --Bramble My Realm 20:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to try that. I'll have it up, probably the day after tomorrow because I'm busy.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 21:24, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Don't make any comments on this version. I'm still editing it and needed a place to Copy the image...Thanks.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 22:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay... I tried my best on this...--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 15:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - I like him alot now! On the orange patch on his head, however, there is a 90 degree angle right after the eye. Take that out and he should be good. Mosswhisker and Steatlhfire 17:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I think you might want to make the "orange" patches more ginger. They are yellow-orange right now. Other than that and what Mosswhisker said, I'd call it good. ;) --MUMBLE785 20:26, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay. I found the best program: Photofiltre. If you use the smudge tool it'll blend perfectly with one stroke. 0.o I'll have the new version up by tomorrow.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 20:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Updated; I played with the orange patch on his said, and tried to make the patches more yellow. I also softened the edges more because I didn't like them the way they were.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 20:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Is Photofiltre a website or a program? Anways, the patches are so soft now. Just add some shading under his chin and I think he'll look great. Mosswhisker and Steatlhfire 19:04, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

A program. You have to pay for it, though, so I got the free trial. I'll upload the new version in a sec.--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 23:32, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Updated. ^^--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 23:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

If Mumble doesn't mind, I think you should use her format of how the patches are positioned, and a similar color. It just looks more natural. And less messy (No offense) --Bramble My Realm 15:58, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to try that, Bramble. But I don't think I could do anything compared to her work. ^^; I'm going to withdraw this momentarily, because it'll take me days to change it totally. I'll probably put it back after Tweak Week. <(^_^)>--Warrior♥Warrior's Den 21:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Milkfur (D) - Withdrawn

[[File:Milkfur (D).png]]

This is Milkfur, the ancient WindClan deputy. --Nightflight - TALK 20:21, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Great job! Only, the white looks a little too yellowish. Make it more like Cloudtail's coloring. Sparrowsong 20:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

It looks great, you should add a little shading though!-- ღ♥Peacesong♥ღ  23:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I can see shading, but it's very light and needs to be quite a bit darker. I need to squint to see it. --Sparrowsong 04:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm really busy, and don't have time to work on him. You could take him down for now. --Nightflight - TALK 21:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

If you can't work on him anymore, you should change it to 'Milkfur (D)- Withdrawn' instead of 'for approval.' I'm sad to see this withdrawn; it looked nice. If you want you could put it up for approval again sometime.  Jane Volturi  (talk!) 03:36, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Pinestar - Declined

[[File:Pinestar6.PNG]] This is Pinestar, leader of ThunderClan, father of Tigerstar, and kittypet.

eyes should be green, bit more shading, other than that, very goodrainpelt

Your really god at making charcats!It's awesome,but as rainpelt and mumble said,add alittle more shading,then he'll be perfect!I like his green eyes,there like the color of the leaves in Green-leaf! --Firepelt 02:29, 27 July 2009 (UTC)FirePelt

OMG! It's awesome! But, add some more shading, like rainpelt said. ;) If you need to, you can look at my nightstar (above) or one of the finished leaders. :) (And don't forget to sign your name with the four squigle-things (~)! --MUMBLE785 22:54, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

All it said was that he was a reddish-brown tabby tom. Nothing about all this extra stuff you put up. It's, good, but I think you need to change it.Minnowclaw 23:17, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Perhaps take the black markings away and make them slightly darker red, and add more stripes. Also, the lineart is still blurred. As I said before, I can fix this for you if need be. --Bramble My Realm 02:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I changed the eyes to green, like you said, Rainpelt. I don't remember it saying anything about him being a tabby, but if you look at page 144 in Code of the Clans, you will see a pic of Pinestar's head. It has the same markings I have drawn on him. That'd be great, Bramble, but could u wait untill it is ready to be approved? Jaypaw189 19:52, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

He's just a red-brown tom, so he doesn't need tabby marks. But the markings on his eyes can stay, just make them a darker brown color instead of black; black sticks out too much. And sure, I can wait until it just needs that done, and then it can be approved. --Bramble My Realm 23:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Bramble. I made them dark brown, like you asked. Any other changes you need? Jaypaw189 00:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC) aka Jayie

Take away the black lines around the dark brown markings, and blur them a bit. That way they look less sharply defined and more natural. --Bramble My Realm 00:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I blurred it like you asked. Jaypaw189 17:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC) aka Jayie

The outline is blurred a little.-- Darkhallows  Lair 18:32, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I finally got the new version to show up! I know, Bramble said she'd (or he'd) fix that for me when it's ready to be approved. Jaypaw189 20:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC) aka Jayie

I’m a she. ;) I reuploaded him with transparent background and unblurred lineart. Those black lines around his muzzle; take those away, cause it makes his muzzle look like he’s wrinkling it up and it looks odd. If you don’t know what I mean, look at the original leader blank and take away any black line on Pinestar’s muzzle that’s not on lineart. --Bramble My Realm 00:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, also his ears and nose need to be pink. Not too stand-out-ish though. Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 12:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I changd the muzzle, like u asked, Bramble. I made the nose pink, Sandy, but when I tried to make the ears pink, it looked really strange. Jaypaw189 16:57, 31 July 2009 (UTC) aka Jayie

It looks good, comments before approval?-- Darkhallows  Lair 20:02, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

(M) - Put in ear pink, but don't make it as bright as the nose pink. Also, his eyes are neon green, try making them a more natural shade. And blur the lighter fur on his chest more, for you highlights are showing up in a ring. MosswhiskerAndStealthfire 00:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the ears, the chest, and the eyes. Anything else? Jaypaw189 00:03, 3 August 2009 (UTC) aka Jayie

Yeah, I see little black marks above the ears. Fix, please. GB57 02:10, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Did that. Anything else need fixing? Jaypaw189 15:47, 4 August 2009 (UTC) aka Jayie

Repeating, comments before approval? Sandy~Dragonkit's Forest 19:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

The flecks are still there, and Pinestar shouldn't have a cream chest and muzzle. --Mal Sorrel-Wolf 21:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

No, I got rid of the flecks. And it showed him having a white muzzle in Code of the Clans. Jaypaw189 23:31, 4 August 2009 (UTC) aka Jayie

You can't tell the color of things from a black & white picture. I think he looks great. --MUMBLE785 19:43, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

His basic ear pink just needs to be blurred a bit (take care not to hit the lineart). Then I'd call him good. The markings are fine, I think, but as it only showed up with a lighter muzzle, try taking away the cream chest. We can always revert it if it looks odd. --Bramble My Realm 03:13, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work in a week, though I hate to do so. Please resubmit after Tweak Week. --Bramble My Realm 15:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

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