New base that i DID draw myself. - Declined

[[File:Deputy--Long-fur-Male.jpg|thumb|left|138px|My awesome base]]Deputy longhair male. Tell me if it violates any superfluous invisible copyright laws that were floating around in the ether.Btw I never want to sound mean, I'm just very sarcastic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spottedleaf x firestar (talkcontribs)

You've got to be kidding me, right?! GB 16:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

No I'm not. I think it's a good base.--Spottedleaf x firestar 16:39, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Sxf, I don't want to offend you, but it looks like a 4-year-old drew this. The head is huge, and the body is tiny. This looks like something a caveman drew! GB 16:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I don't have a tablet or scanner. Maybe i should colour them instead. Also, what body???? All you can see is the head neck, and tail tip. SANDSTAR.... GB..... SWIFTY... ANYONE... I seriously need a mentor. I know I'm supposed to ask on the mentor project page but I already did and I want to increase my chances. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spottedleaf x firestar (talkcontribs)

K,please stop asking everyone to be your mentor.--JayfeatherSheikah 19:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Ummm....How could we color this in? What if the deputy had special white legs and a ginger body or something? Also, this could never have depth. Sorry, but everybody is right.--JKO 23:01, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
I can't approve this. The art style has no resemblance to the existing styles, and the image will need to be full body.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 14:56, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Messed up page

Kitsu, I fixed this, but Sxf messed up the whole talk-page; it might be kind of confusing, but see the history. GB 16:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

OMG i guess i need a mentor MUCH more than i thought.--Spottedleaf x firestar 16:39, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Deputy Blank, why?

I was wondering why we need a deputy blank? A deputy is pretty much a warrior, just with different tasks. That doesn't mean that they look different?--JKO 23:59, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Mainly, because the cat receives a special kudos. Much like a leader, who's just got a spare 8 lives stuffed into them. It's not going to be a largely physically different, simply a different pose. When you get right down to it ;) A cat is a cat is a cat. The different poses are just to give a little variety to the images we use. and provide a little bit more interest for our artists, who (at least me personally) don't want to stare at the same blank all the time.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 13:43, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

This should really be archived.......--FxC **The Waterfall** 12:44, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Female longhaired elder base

[[File:Elder_longhairf.gif|left]]Is this a good female longhair elder? I'll post the other elder base as soon as I make them. --Spottedleaf x firestar 23:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Did you use the warrior base and modify it? It appears that way from the image. You are not supposed to do that since someone else made them. We only have permission to color them in. Swifty{ASTRX} 23:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

...I'm speechless. Did you really expect this to be approved? Thanks for making me laugh, though :D––Σulãlíã459 678 00:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree with Eu. No offense though....... --FxC **The Waterfall** 00:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Sandstar of Warriors Wish drew the warrior blanks. You need to ask her before you edit this. Had a good laugh as well as Eu (no offense). GB 00:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

P It looks cool and funny.--JayfeatherSheikah 19:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
No. I have nothing else to say on this one, and feel insulted that this was even submitted. If you're not going to take the project seriously, leave it to those who do. Will archive this tomorrow.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 14:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


[[File:Sorrietail.png|thumb|left|122px|Sorrie!!]] Like it?--Spottedleaf x firestar 18:50, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

These look like alien cats. GB 19:18, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I agree.Nice job though.--JayfeatherSheikah 19:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Wait I'm working on Sorrie!Redflare 20:32, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Ya, Redflare is working on Sorreltail, so in my opinion, it isn't fair that you are too. GB 21:50, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Let's Decline It. 00:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Please don't be so mean. When Kitsu or Gorse (CURSE THE EUPHONIUM!!) can get to it, they will archive the section.

NO NO NO NO! You cannot decline this. You aren't even a member of the project. You aren't even a WWiki member. Only Kitsu and Gorse can decline images. Sorry if that was a little crazy. GB 01:55, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I can decline, and will. The image was clearly made by taking bits of real cat pictures and pasting them in as the markings. It looks un-natural, is not in the style considered the 'norm' for this project (clashes with it, infact), and simply is not something we can use.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 14:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


[[File:Ashfur.png]] Squirrelflights would-be mate.

Hello, this is Ashfur from warriors, not Ashfur from Neopets! No offence, Sxf, but you need some pointers on PCA. GB 19:21, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

OMG Cool!But whats with the swirlyness?--JayfeatherSheikah 19:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

This is very unrealistic, and not to be mean I doubt it will be approved.--Redflare 21:55, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Holy cow! It is really swirly! It doesn't really look like Ashfur at all though.--JKO 23:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Ashfur has darker flecks like Ferncloud. He isn't swirly.
While the Erins pay little attention to what is and isn't going to happen in real life, this goes well beyond the realm of what is described by the books, and will not be accepted. However interesting it looks.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 14:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Goldenflower - Declined

[[File:Goldenflower.PNG]] My first ever attempt at a pixel (and my first attempt at using this page...) Constructive critisism welcome. --Sandstar12 21:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

This is good for a first try, but needs more shading. GB 21:17, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Goldenflower is an elder. Therefore, the warrior base iss incorrect. Swifty{ASTRX} 23:50, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

No it isn't; she has been a warrior once, so this blank is okay. GB 00:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Acually it is incorrect. Kitsu has said it has to use the current blank.--Redflare 00:40, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Ahh, yes. Sorry forgot she became an elder. I always thought of her as a warrior. I guess I'll start over with another cat. [I'll keep in mind your comments about shading GB - thanks] What happens with this section now? Shall I get rid of it? Is that even possible for me to do? (sorry, I REALLY haven't got the hang of this yet...) --Sandstar12 16:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

This can be declined/rejected/removed :)--Sandstar12 19:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll decline and archive. Someday we might actively seek fill in images for ranks characters held during the books, but at this point, we want to keep our focus on staying as current as possible.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 15:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Other Animal Outlines

Don't you think someone ought to be making outlines of other animals? Because there are other animal characters: Midnight, the Pack Leader, Pip, Sharptooth...--Shaf Girl 19:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, but I think it would be way to much of a hassle. Let's stick to cats for now, and then maybe we can work on those. Also, can you guys comment on my Rowanclaw? I added a new version a while ago.--JKO 20:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

The non-cats are low priority right now. I won't consider them pressing until we have lineart for all the ranks.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 15:08, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Foxclaw - Declined

[[File:Foxclaw.png|left]] here's my go at Foxclaw.--Redflare 18:58, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow, why isn't anyone responding.

Sorry Redflare! (I've looked at this a few times and I did mean to comment...)I think this is a good image. The shading is nice. I have one question though; it may be my bad memory but I can't actually remember WHO Foxclaw is...any help please? --Sandstar12 15:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Foxclaw is from ancient RiverClan in Firestar's Quest. Is that enough help? swifty{ASTRX} 17:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe take a look at the Foxclaw article?––Σulãlíã459 678 18:44, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I did try looking him up but I didn't look at the ancient cats. Thanks. I think the image suits him--Sandstar (not logged in)

Well, there are a few issues with this. Number one, the shading is totally hard-line and needs to be blurred. Two, the blank seem to have been condensed or scaled. And lastly, the outline is blurred, where it should be crisp and defined, however the shading must be blurred. --FxC **The Waterfall** 13:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, you saved the thumbnail and not the real image... You'll have to redo it so it's scaled properly. Sorry. I have to decline this outright. It'll be archived tomorrow.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 15:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Crowfrost - Declined

[[File:Crowfrost.png|left]]Drew Crowfrost. The program won't do bright colors on gif images, so if anyone could do the ears for me, you would have my thanks. GB 03:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, when you are coloring zoom in, it will help you "stay in the lines".--JKO 03:10, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I know, I'm going to fix that shortly, as well as make him bigger. GB 03:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Fixed it. GB 03:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, did the ear. GB 05:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Just a bit of shading and this will look decent. FxC **The Waterfall** 13:34, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to withdraw this; Crowfrost needs some major improvements, and it might take a while to do so. GB 14:52, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I've decided to give Crowfrost one more shot. GB 16:57, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Crowfrost. Like him? GB 20:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm going to not repeat the comments about programs here, since you have them on your other pixel. Once again, not a bad start. The eyes need doing. I'd say use a generic cat color like amber since we don't have a definitive color for this character. BLENDING. So important. Right now the hard-lines between the black and white are completely unnatural and need to be blended. Additionally, shading is needed. Highlights and lowlights are good things.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 16:35, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I think its really good, despite the eyes needing done like Kitsufox said. And some shading. He kind of reminds me of an oreo! ;) --Bramble Bramble's Realm 20:28, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Added some more shading, and the eyes. GB 00:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

The white markings are still very very sharply defined from the pelt and look unnatural. The shading also isn't blended at all, and really needs to be. Right now it looks like someone dumped a pint of dark paint on his back...  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 18:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I re-uploaded Crowfrost. GB 23:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I did what I could about blending. GB 01:49, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I hope this looks good. I'm re-uploading all of my images. GB 23:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

The white markings have absolutly sharp lines that are not acceptable. No blending, no accepting. Sorry.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 14:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Declining due to long term lack of progress. GB: If you do work out blending feel free to resubmit. Will archive in 24 hours.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 03:03, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Blackstar - Decline

[[File:Blackstar.Gif|right]]1. There's no image. 2. We have no leader blank. swifty{ASTRX} 20:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Whoops, still getting used to this. Here it is.FlamewhiskerTalk! 21:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Leader blank should have been used, and since we don't have one, you'll have to wait to get this one approved. Sorry. Additionally, flat colors are never going to get accepted.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 00:50, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Following up with a formal decline. Forgot to yesterday.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 03:01, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Sandstorm - Withdrawn by User

[[File:Sandstorm.png|left]] Drew Sandstorm. Any constructive criticism is appreciated. GB 01:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

There is a reason that she is called Sandstorm, and not Slightly-lighter-colour-than-Firestar-storm. Sorry if that sounded a little mean. --Spottedleaf x firestar 15:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Ginger cats are the same thing as orange, Sxf! GB 16:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I am Not saying they aren't. I'm just saying 1. Firestar is EXCEPTIONALLY brightly coloured. and 2. Sandstorm is LIGHT ginger/sand coloured, like I said above.

Ginger is pretty much orange.A shade of orange.--JayfeatherSheikah 19:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

hm...this looks more like Squirrelflight's colour than Sandstorm's. I too would imagine Sandstorm to be a slightly lighter shade...more like sand. The eyes are the perfect colour though! --Sandstar12 16:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Like Jay said above, ginger is pretty much orange. Squirrelflight is ginger as well, but have you seen her image? GB 22:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

This looks fine...but the shading seems a bit minimal, and also is not blurred. It's mentioned that Sandstorm has barely visible, light ginger tabby stripes. You probably want to do the tabby, or, if you can't, at least add the tabby M. --FxC **The Waterfall** 01:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I always imagined Sandstorm as a sandy tan color. After all, that's why she's called Sandstorm.--Shaf Girl 19:29, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I re-did her with the tabby M. GB 01:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Looks good. Just needs blurtool. Otherwise, you sure did her justice! --FxC **The Waterfall** 01:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't have a blurtool; is that the same as blending, though? 'Cause if it is, I can do that. GB 01:59, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is right, but I think blurtool just means you need to blur/blend the hard shading edges into teh rest of the coat to give it a softer edge and therefore make it look more realistic. (but I'm no expert - that's what i think...)--Sandstar12

The book description is "a pale ginger she-cat". I do no think that the image is pale. Swifty{ASTRX} 16:36, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I tried to blend it, a little. GB 22:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I've always considered 'ginger' to have a yellowy color to is (like a ginger root when you cut it open). It's certainly not the shade I've ever envisioned Sandstorm as... Also, shading needs to be increased and properly blended.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 14:55, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Ja it needs to be lighter.--Whenyouknowthenotestosing 23:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. GB 01:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I see no diffrence.--Whenyouknowthenotestosing 01:48, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree, I don't see a difference at all.-- Shim-ShimShimmering Crystals 04:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

The colour is a little paler than it was before. I still think it needs more shading though--Sandstar12 12:09, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Actually a lot of shading should be added.-- Shim-ShimShimmering Crystals 16:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Shading; on it. GB 16:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Done. GB 17:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Needs blending, and shading over the entire body. Not just on the back and chest. I'm also still holding to the idea that the color you're using isn't 'ginger'.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 15:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I just can't seem to nail what she needs, so I'm withdrawing her. I'll just work on the other images I have uploaded. GB 15:32, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Medicine Cat Blanks - Declined

[[File:Meddielongf.png|left]]This is my hand-drawn base. My first try at making blanks. PLEASE criticize me. BTW this is female, longhaired. --FxC **The Waterfall** 01:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

You might want to add herbs in the picture, to make the status more obvious. --Swifty{ASTRX} 01:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

The lines look like they should be a bit bolder. Otherwise, this is good.

Wow, this is really good. The only problem I see is that it is a little big. Medicine cats are usually smaller than most warriors. If only we could shorten it up, it would be perfect!--JKO 02:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Scaled the image, what do ya guys think now? Swifty, adding herbs might be something the actual artist would do, but I'm not completely sure. --FxC **The Waterfall** 13:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

This is really very good. It is, in my opinion, the same sort of style as the current blanks although I do agree that maybe the lines need to be a bit bolder, but I'm not sure whether doing that would ruin the image... I like it! --Sandstar12 19:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Much better!--JKO 01:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

It's a nice start, but I have major issues with how rough the lineart itself is, and I won't be able to accept it unless that all gets smoothed out and made a bit more professional looking. Right now it's not really usable because of the jaggedness of the outlines.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 15:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Wait....Medicine Cats don't have bumpy backs. It sorta looks like it took some Bad Medicine :)ZZ Top 11:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

ZZ Top, that was not necessary. You could have said, maybe you could fix the bumpy back.--JKO 14:14, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Politeness is a must, ZZtop. Additionally, there is no reason to repeat and pound people with comment on things that have already been bought up unless there have been updates and the point hasn't been improved yet. Remember, people donate their time to do these things and deserve respect, even if you don't agree with the execution. Without respect nothing would get done on this project.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 00:46, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I would like to decline these on my own because I completely forgot about them and am now working on Deputy blanks. --FxC **The Waterfall** 13:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Declined, as per player request. Shall be archiving tommorow.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 15:20, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Berrynose - Declined

[[File:Berrynose.png|left]] Hello, WWiki. This is my first CharArt and I hope that it gets accepted. I tried my hardest, and please critique me. FrostleafWinter 01:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

To much lineart covered by the coloring........--JKO 02:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree w/ Jakko. And don't be so harsh, please! As your mentor I ask you to please be more patient. --FxC **The Waterfall** 12:47, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

There's almost no shading, and if you look closely, the background behind his hind leg is cream-colored. GB 22:07, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Also, I just noticed, there's no ear! GB 20:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Shoot! I thought I forgot something! Thanks :P! FrostleafWinter 02:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

When people submit art to this project, it is with the assumption that thier art will be judged against the established quality level and they will be told when their are issues with it. It is not being harsh when you're telling them something that is going to keep it from being accepted. I'm sick of people inflating egos and stroking them and growing them up only for me to have to come along and be the only person with the honesty to tell them it's not going to be acceptable. While it never hurts to make your criticism constructive and include notes on things that where done right... There is nothing wrong with letting people know the points for improvement. The lineart DOES need to be brought back, and then the shading needs to be amped up big time to create that nice touch of realism.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 15:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Declining this, as it's been close to a week since the artist has commented. Will be archiving tomorow. The artist can resubmit later if they resume work.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 15:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Jaypaw - Declined

[[File:LMJaypaw.png|thumb|left|200px]] Ah, I just wanted to draw Jaypaw for the site. I'm assuming it won't be accepted, though, as it's not on a base? If it is accepted, though, I'd be more than happy to do more of these custom pictures. I love drawing the Warrior cats. C: But, even if it's not accepted, I had fun drawing it!! --Hazelflower 23:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

If you assume it won't be accepted, why did you add it to the page? --swifty{ASTRX} 00:17, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Because there's always that small inkling of hope. :D --Hazelflower 00:27, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Since it is not done in a base, it will not be accepted. --swifty{ASTRX} 00:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain that you're right and this won't be accepted, but this is a very cool drawing! Why don't you try taking one of the bases and coloring that to make a character? --Sandstar12 12:46, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

For one thing, this will never be approved. Another thing, we don't have a medicine cat blank. GB 01:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your effort, Hazelflower, but the project is using blanks we have rather than seeking original art. We are looking for additional blanks that fit style-wise with the ones we have (The image you've displayed is a bit on the Anime side, and not full body for our standards, but just because you like an Anime Style doesn't mean you can't draw realistic.). Will archive in about 24 hours.  Kitsufox  Fox's Den 02:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Geez, GB, that first sentence sounded harsh. XD But I know you didn't mean any offense by it. :D Also, thanks, Kitsu. I understand, and I really didn't think about it until a while after I put it up. I think I'll work on some blanks soon, and make sure they're realistic. Either way, thanks again! --Hazelflower 02:07, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

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