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Brightheart (Alt A) ~ Declined

[[File:Brightheart.apprentice.alt.png]]

My comp HATES this image. Since it's being a butt and I can't code worth a crap on wiki, you people must deal with this link. xD If anyone knows how, feel free to code it into an image display. For now, my computer it obsessed with the law and thinks it's an "illegal file type". Hopefully it'll stop after I edit it...

About the image, she does need an alternate apprentice image, because the side of her face the damage was on is facing towards you in her apprentice image according to her warrior image, and her face was injured before she became a warrior. The patches do not resemble her other apprentice image because I found that half of them were inconsistent with her other images. Comments? x3 Kitties Ruleda WORLD!Mumble sees a kitty!!! 23:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

She does not need an alternate apprentice images, injuries shouldn't count as being "alternate". oblivionAudience? 23:25, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Oblivion. WhiteStorm is back! 23:54, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Really? Someone had an alt. apprentice up for Briarpaw and everybody was cool with it. Mossy go away. 02:36, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

But Briarlight dosen't have an alternate image, she dosen't need one. Dappleclaw 02:39, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

A scar is different than being paralyzed. Wicked Mouseh is Defying Gravity!!! 02:56, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well, they're both injuries. . . and she has some pretty big scars. Mossy go away. 16:59, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I think the scars are enough for an alternate, but I'm just an apprentice.Well, the ginger shade doesn't match the other images, nor does the shapes of some patches. Kittypet 18:19, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I added the charart for you--Nightshine 01:16, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not so sure actually. She was an apprentice for such less time after she received her scars, wasn't she? Starlingflight Take Flight into the Sky! 12:28, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, Brightheart never was an apprentice after her injuries as she became an elder afterwards. I think this should be declined. WhiteStorm is back! 13:33, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Brightheart never became an elder, did she? She just helped out. ❄Icy❄Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells! 13:48, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think she counts as an elder, even though she wasn't old, neither was Longtail. And I'm pretty sure she slept in the elders den because Firestar mentions after the battle against BloodClan she could sleep in the warriors den. Dappleclaw 16:18, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

The reason the patches are colored differently is because of the shading and highlights. So, my guess, this is declined? :/ Kitties Ruleda WORLD!Mumble sees a kitty!!! 16:25, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think it should be, but I'm not going to just up and decline it before I hear what the other senior warriors/Bramble think. And there's a forum on this type of thing, we should wait until we see how that turns out. oblivionAudience? 18:03, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps temporarily decline this until the forum discussion is over. If it's decided that it's acceptable it can be put back up and if not it can stay declined.AshshadowNo really? 18:15, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, Brightheart was never officially an elder. Longtail was, though. Also, she was an apprentice with injuries, just not for very long. Mossy go away. 05:50, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I don't think she was an elder because even when she was called Lostface, she was still showed as an apprentice with no mentor in the allegiances of The Darkest Hour. Starlingflight Take Flight into the Sky! 07:43, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, she LIVED in the elder'd den, but that doesn't make her an official elder. They probably just thought she'd get along better in that calm elder's den, instead of the rowdy apprentice den, to recover because she was traumatized Kittypet 15:33, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

I’m declining this until we reach some conclusions about alternative images in the discussion here. Bramble -Hyuu~ 02:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Rosetail (Alt. Elder) - Declined

[[File:Rosetail.elder.alt.png]] I like this one too! Comments? Cobaltpaw

I think it looks pretty good. Quickheart


Why did you make this, Elorisa? It’s lovely, true, but there’s nothing alternative about it. Rosetail has only one description, and all her images are filled in already. Perhaps her images could be tweak weeked at a later date, but there is no need for an alternative image. Bramble -Hyuu~ 21:04, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Declining and archiving due to reason above. oblivionAudience? 21:51, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfrost (alt. kit) - Declined

[[File:Hawkfrost.kit.alt.png]] I made it longhaired because his normal kit image is longhaired too. Comments? Rainbreath 11:50, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Wasn't it Mothwing who was silver tabby.....? ★ Flowerleaf ★ 12:17, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, it was Hawkfrost. I think you should blur the stripes, maybe increase and blur the white belly, maybe add just a little more shading and the left ear pink looks a bit lopsided, so just correct that! Maybe you could see Spiderleg's kit image for reference for the underbelly. Starlingflight Take Flight into the Sky! 12:31, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Where did you get the reference for this description? The only one I see on his trivia section is the cover of Return to the Clans, and I thought it had been decided not to accept citations from Mangas, though I might be incorrect. Anyway, you need to add a citation to his page, if there is one. WhiteStorm is back! 13:26, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

He is, Whitestorm. Go look at the cover. Also, if Snake, Ice and Rainwhisker got them why doesn't Hawkfrost? Anyways, his paws are white on the cover too and his eyes are green. Thicken the shading. Mossy go away. 22:28, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, also, I think you should make it shorthaired considering he is on that cover. Mossy go away. 22:36, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

But Hawkfrost is long-haired, though. Oh well? :P ℱrostheartϡ Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia 04:58, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well, yes, I know he is longhaired, but on that manga cover he isn't longhaired, so he shouldn't be in this image either. Mossy go away. 05:46, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, lighten the white spot and darken the shading. ❄Icy❄Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells! 13:08, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Round out the white stomach, it looks to me like it's a square. ℱrostheartϡ Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia 16:30, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger. WhiteStorm is back! 01:44, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I’m declining this until we reach some conclusions about alternative images in the discussion here. Bramble -Hyuu~ 02:40, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Why? If we've done it for other cats, we should for him too. No one's arguing, anyway. Mossy go away. 02:57, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Covers are not considered official descriptions of cats. That was decided long ago. We have not made an alternate image for Brambleclaw, who has amber eyes but is depicted with green on the cover of Midnight. This may go back up; all I said was that it is declined until we reached some decisions about alternative images. Not permanently. --Bramble -Hyuu~ 03:02, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

But what I don't understand is why other cats get it, then, like Rainwhisker, Snake and Ice. It wasn't just an eye colour change, anyways, it was a complete makeover. . . Mossy go away. 21:31, September 27, 2010 (UTC) We’ll sort it out in discussions. Archiving. Bramble -Hyuu~ 21:00, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerstar (Alt. Leader) - Declined

[[File:Tigerstar.leader.alt.png]] Comments?--Nightshine 01:04, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, this is amazing. Shouldn't you smudge the tail stripes, considering that they are like that everywhere else? :P And wow.. :P ℱrostheartϡ Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia 01:06, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

The color of Tigerstar on those covers isn't gray though. Its more like a cream color with brown stripes. At least thats how I see it. Cobaltpaw 01:12, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkfrost's alternate kit image was declined because of the current discussion and it was only shown on the manga covers. Seeing as this image is under exactly the same circumstances, I think it shoul be declined. It's such a lovely image, though :) oblivionAudience? 01:17, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, well I guess I should have read the archives. Hmm which one should I do now?--Nightshine 01:19, September

Um...isn't Tigerstar a dark tabby?? Anyway, blur the scratch on his nose. Clarrissa!My talkpage! 17:44, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Don’t bother commenting when the image is declined anyhow. Archiving. Bramble -Hyuu~ 21:00, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Briarlight~Alt. Kit - Declined

[[File:Briarlight.alt.kit.png]] I'm not too proud of this one.. Comments for approval? ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 21:38, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Just wondering, when was she described as brown-and-white? Dappleclaw 21:41, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, its no in her trivia. Kittypet 21:42, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I read on her page yesterday that when she was born, she was described as brown and white. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 21:43, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Which was added by an unregistered contributor with no citation - both warnings that the information put was false. Plus, Oblivion reverted it soon after. Make sure to check information because you never know if it is true, especially without a citation. Declining this. --Bramble -Hyuu~ 21:48, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. Maybe next time... ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 21:49, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Archving. oblivionAudience? 20:19, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Tigerstar (Alt L) ~ Declined

[[File:Tigerstar.alt.leader.png]] This is my third charart, and was fun, yet annoying to do. So, comments? (this is under the limit, this is like 23rd) EarthbenderTawny Style! 23:00, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

This should be declined..right? o_o ℱrostheartϡ Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia 23:03, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if people really didn't see that I undid their edit, or are just pretending. I undid your editing of the table, giving a reason in my summary. Frostheart, you're right, this is declined. oblivionAudience? 23:05, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Um.. I haven't been on for a while... Did I miss something? Why is this being declined? llwildheartl 17:19, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Millie (Alternate Kittypet) - Declined

[[File:Millie.kittypet.alt.png]] I know... She's pretty bad. I tried really hard on her. Please don't say anything bad about it, for its my first charart on this site. Comments? LavenderheartWindwillowMintwish 20:28, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

-sigh-... For the fourth time, we are not creating new images for different manga pictures until the related forum discussion is closed. Declining. oblivionAudience? 20:31, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

This stinks.... :( LavenderheartWindwillowMintwish 20:35, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, you can always re-post this if the situation resolves. Wicked Mouseh is Defying Gravity!!! 23:13, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Archiving. oblivionAudience? 23:20, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Mapleshade (W) ~ Declined

[[File:Mapleshade.warrior2.png]] Since Briarlight was declined. Here's another. I might wanna make the ginger/golden brown patches a bit darker. ScarletwindThe Uchiha's final Hope 22:15, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Night Whisperers wasn't released yet, so is this going to be declined? xD ℱrostheartϡ Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia 22:22, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Many users have already tried to post Mapleshade, and have all been declined. Since Night Whispers isn't out yet, she cannot have a charart. oblivionAudience? 22:33, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Frecklewish (MC) ~ Declined

[[File:Frecklewish.MC.png]] Well, here we go! My third charart. This wasn't on the list, but she needed an image according to her page...so sorry if this isn't needed, but I thought it could be used. Anyways, comments? EarthbenderTawny Style! 21:07, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

She was never seen as a full MC. Only an MCA. Mossy go away. 21:12, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Dovesong is right.--Nightshine 22:01, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Once again, I reverted this edit, with a full explination in the summary. oblivionAudience? 22:34, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Archiving. Wicked Mouseh is Defying Gravity!!! 22:11, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sweetpaw (Alt. A) - Declined

[[File:Sweetpaw.alt.kit.png]] Yes, yes, I know. It looks horrific. ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 02:41, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Can we do this cat? I mean it only calls her a mottled tabby cat, so there is no acutal color description. Dappleclaw 02:45, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Guys, that's like saying we shouldn't have given Swiftbreeze an image because no colour is specified. Tabby is brown tabby, and you wouldn't put white on it, even if she is white and tortoiseshell. You should've just made her a mottled brown tabby. Mossy go away. 02:53, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so I'll change it to brown? ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 02:56, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yup, probably a grayish shade like Swiftbreeze's, tabby is usually a dull brown. Mossy go away. 02:58, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - Is this okay? I think it looks odd...⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 03:18, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

How do you make a mottled tabby? :3 I'm not sure if cats have that, but if they do, this is great. xD Even out the ear-pinks to match. ℱrostheartϡ Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia 04:04, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reuploaded - @Frostheart - You make a mottled cat, then add tabby stripes. I fixed the ear pink. ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 04:11, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry this will have to be declined because we are currently debating about alternate images.--Nightshine 05:26, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Archiving. Wicked Mouseh is Defying Gravity!!! 20:28, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Cinderpelt (Alt. MC) - Declined

FIrst charat for the project! Comments? I know she doesn't have an "awkwardly twisted leg", and I just couldn't hand-make one. I, personally, think she turned out good. The Dodge tool on the program i use for charats is REALLY strong, so i was kinda worried about that too. Ginger Loves Silver! HAPPY VALENTINES DAY! 19:31, September 30, 2010 (UTC) [[File:Cinderpelt_MC_1.jpg]]

First of all, take it out of the thumbnail. Second, this is in the wrong section. LavenderheartWindwillowMintwish 19:39, September 30, 2010 (UTC


Where did you find a reason to do this? She has no "alternate" appearances on her page... I don't see why this should stay up for approval. Oh, and next time please put your images in the "images up for approval section". I've moved it for you, but just for next time. oblivionAudience? 19:42, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, i'm new. but please, Cinderpelts current charat is REALLY bad, and i wanted to make a charat... but whatever. don't approve it if you don't want to. Ginger Loves Silver! HAPPY VALENTINES DAY! 20:23, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

You can't just create a new image for whatever character you want, and what is wrong with her current charart? It looks completely fine to me. oblivionAudience? 20:25, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Her current charart looks just fine. LavenderheartWindwillowMintwish 20:28, September 30, 2010 (UTC)


Oh! My other computer sucks, and it made Cinderpelt look all funny. Her pelt was straight black, her eyes were only filled-in, and her herbs in her mouth were a dark green, so it looked weird with her pelt. Sorry, my bad. oh, and is there any specific way to know when i can make a version of a cat to put up for aproval? Oblivion said that i didn't need to put upa Cinderpelt for aproval cuz she didn't have any alternate appearances. i had thought if you just put one up people would approve it if they thought it was good...whateevr lol im new. i need to learn. Ginger Loves Silver! HAPPY VALENTINES DAY! 20:36, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if you go to a character's page and it says they've appeared as an apprentice, and no one else has it reserved then you can do that image for them, and you can also do alts. if say, they're a brown tabby but they've been mistakenly mentioned as gray. Mossy go away. 22:30, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Archiving. Wicked Mouseh is Defying Gravity!!! 21:59, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Pikepaw (A)-Declined

[[File:Pikepaw.apprentice.png]] I am not sure if it is showing mine? Mine is shorthaired, but doesn't seem to be uploading over the previous version.  Darkhallows...Mew? 12:42, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

O.O. What happened to it! ★ Flowerleaf ★ 12:53, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yours is showing up in the thumbnail of all of the past versions, but here it's showing a stretched version of the other person's image. This happened to me a couple of times with my own images uploading strangely, and I just waited a while and then uploaded again, so maybe try uploading again? IcethroatHappyHolidays! 13:25, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

There it is ^^-  Darkhallows...Mew? 11:51, September 12, 2010 (UTC) 1193477C-A375-C968-069C-C1818BA7C5911.03.01

Darken the shading. ℱrostheartϡ Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia 16:25, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights. Mossy go away. 23:07, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

The eye color looks a little unnatural, but that just might be me Kittypet 01:07, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the earpink smaller, and you're right, Kittypet, it does look kinda unnatural. llwildheartl 02:41, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Make the ear pink not touch the lineart. Wicked Mouseh is Defying Gravity!!! 21:44, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

The ear pink could be smaller all around. WhiteStorm is back! 12:11, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Arright.  Darkhallows...Mew? 02:17, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

That looks better to me. :) Storm17 Birthday Time! 02:52, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the shading on the shoulder. oblivionAudience? 19:08, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the haunch shading. ❄Icy❄Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells! 23:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlight on the face. SunXMossBest Friends Forever! 01:05, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Darken the earpink. SunspiritBack in... uh, yellow? 01:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

By the shoulder it looks to me like there's a random line going through the highlights. Also, thicken the highlights. Mossy go away. 21:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Blur the highlights, please. Kittypet 15:44, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

The shading/highlights look a little...odd. Also, I think there's blurred line art on the neck. ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 03:01, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined.AshshadowNo really? 20:03, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'd be willing to work on it if Darkhallows is not able too. WillowheartWhere's the candy? 23:45, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

So would I. Cobaltpaw 12:47, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work.AshshadowNo really? 19:58, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

Hawkheart (Alt. W) - Declined

[[File:Hawkheart.warrior.alt.png]]

As far as I am aware, Hawkheart was shown only as a gray-flecked tom when he was a medicine cat; he was never shown as a warrior in the book at all. That, and the fact that this is similar but not close enough to the medicine cat image, is reason enough for declining this. And it's also been up since July.. Hollydapple, you are free to take another image if you so wish. --Bramble -Hyuu~ 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Rainwhisker (Alt A)-Declined

[[File:Rainwhisker.apprentice.alt.png]][[File:RainwhiskerAltAppr.png]]

It has been decided that manga images should have no more worth than cover art, and this is therefore declined. --Bramble -Hyuu~ 22:52, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Fernshade (W)~Declined

[[File:Fernshade.warrior.png]] Not particularly proud of this one. I might re-do the patches. Comments for improvement? ScarletwindMedicine cat of SolarClan 02:13, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I have reserved this already. It will be declined--Nightshine 02:17, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mistkit (KI) - Declined

[[File:Mistkit_(SC).png]]

My first Charart! I worked really hard on it :). Since it's my first, I know it probably needs editing, so... comments? (It's, as you probably already know, Mistkit from ShadowClan who appears in OOTS Night Whispers.) Maplefrost! 23:29, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Wow! Good job! The ear pink could be darker; I can't really see it right now. --Midnite Talk 23:33, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Maplefrost, you cannot post an image if it is already reserved on the table. It is clearly stated on both the guidelines and right above the chart. Declining this, and you will be issued a 24-hour ban when Bramble comes on. oblivionAudience? 23:34, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

I... I'm sorry... I missed it I guess :(... I read the whole thing, but I guess I missed that part... :( I'm really, really, really sorry, I'm new so... I didn't understand :(. Edit: I just used crtl + F on all the pages--the main page, the guidelines, and this talk page--and typed in 'reserve' and couldn't find anything about this... I'm really confused... Plus, the only 'ban for twenty-four hours' reasons are like starting fights and stuff. I... please explain, I really have no idea what's going on. :( Maplefrost!

Please look at the guidelines for more information. oblivionAudience? 00:51, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Edit 2: I see it now... it's on that little chart... I totally missed that... please don't ban me :( I'm not trying to beg or anything, but it was an accident--I started working on this yesterday, before, as I see now, Mistkit was reserved. I truly meant no harm... I'm brand new... Maplefrost! 00:53, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but rules are rules. Here's a little section from the guidelines: "If a member claims a character that is already on the table, that member will be given a 24-hour ban. There is no excuse for claiming a character that is already there." When Bramble comes on, she will give you a ban, and hopefully you can learn from your mistakes. oblivionAudience? 00:59, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Thistleclaw (Alt W) - Withdrawn

[[File:Thistleclaw.warrior.alt.png]] At first I was gonna do the brown tabby, but I decided to do his Night Whispers appearance instead. The spikes are copied from his warrior image. Comments? --Gοldenpelt 18:56, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Make the spikes more visible and darken the shading a tad bit. -ſceheartBlah blah 19:06, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I think you should do the tabby because it's actually an alternat, mentioned in his trivia. The mottled white-and-gray is his actual appearance. His old appearance - the one on his chararts - isn't accurate because all we had to go on was his image in the manga, which are never right. When the next Tweak Week rolls around, we can change his current images so they're accurate. Until then, I recommend making his alternate image tabby. oblivionAudience? 19:17, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see any sense in replacing his manga appearance. It's as much as an alternate appearance as his tabby description, even more so than it, since it appeared in six different images in the manga, while the tabby appearance appeared in two sentences of a 500-page book. --Gοldenpelt 20:02, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well, his current image still needs to be tweaked - which cannot be done now - so change this to the tabby. As for the manga appearance, it has already been decided that we do not do alternate images on cats that appeared different in the manga. oblivionAudience? 02:13, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Mapleshade(W)- Declined

I just read Night Whispers, and found out that Mapleshade is orange and white. On page 187, (I have an I pod book) it says, 'Growling, Ivypaw swerved among the trunks. She saw the matted orange and white pelt too late.'

[[File:Mapleshade.png]] Moonstream98 20:12, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Mapleshade already has a warrior image up for approval, it's further up the page if you even bothered to look. Declining this, and you will be issued a 24-hour ban for posting an image that is already reserved. oblivionAudience? 20:14, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

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