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Silverstream (Alt W) - Declined

[[File:Silverstream.warrior.alt.png]] Woo, I'm back. I saw that she was described as pale grey, but didn't have a charart for it yet. Killing to bird with one stone, I gave her green eyes, too. Comments? --Gοldenpelt 01:27, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

I have a few issues with this.. For one, pale grey is still grey/silver, whch she already is, so I'm pretty sure this isn't needed. Two, she was described with green eyes in a different book, which as far as I know means she needs her normal eye color. Of course, that's not really up to me, so I'll leave that for someone else to decide. As for the actual image, the only real problem I see is the neck shading. The part of her neck closer to her back should be lighter. --Quiet!... 03:07, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Someone else already had this up for approval, and it was decided that an alternate wasn't needed, the colours are basically the same. This will have to be declined. -ſceheartBlah blah 03:11, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry Goldenpaw but Iceheart is right. Hopefully more chararts are availiable once Sign of the Moon comes out in a few months --Nightshine 05:07, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Rainwhisker Alt. A For approval

[[File:Rainwhisker.apprentice.alt.png]]Rainwhisker as gray and white. Comments? - Ginger Loves Silver! HAPPY VALENTINES DAY! 21:37, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Don't bother. I did this once, and it was declined. YatzSliversword Let it snow... 21:41, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't necessarily mean mine will be declined. - Ginger Loves Silver! HAPPY VALENTINES DAY! 21:47, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but it is going to be declined, because you can't do alternates for descriptions for book covers or mangas. Yatz's pic was declined for the same reason. Yours is no exception. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 21:53, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Declined due to reason above--Nightshine 23:22, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Mothwing alt. - Declined

Hi. In the alligiances of Sunset Mothwing is described as a dappled golden she cat. I know it's really bad, but, comments? YatzSliversword Let it snow... 18:07, March 4, 2011 (UTC) [[File:Mothwing.png]]

Moved to the correct section. Mothwing is already both golden and dappled, so I don't think this is really needed.. Then again, it's not my choice. Just a note for future reference, it might be a good idea to reserve and then ask if a cat needs that alternate or not. It'd save a lot of time and confusion. --Quiet!... 21:21, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Declined due to reason above--Nightshine 23:23, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Stone Song (Hl) ~Declined

[[File:Stone_Song.hl..png]] WOOOO! Love it... Although can somebody help me with the stripes??? Inside Eclipse, He is changed to a leader when the have their little journey to the mountains to become The Tribe of Rushing Water. foxI'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 19:22, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Stone Song never appeared as Healer, it is just known that he led the cats he led to the mountains, so this should be declined. MINTSTARR You have a sailor's mouth! 21:33, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Mintstarr is right, this will be declined--Nightshine 00:19, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

But in the book, Jaypaw says- They choose their own leaders? Does that count? foxI'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 00:34, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Stone Song would be counted as a leader, but not a healer. We don't have a charart for that in particular. There would be no point to make a new lineart for one or two cats (aside from Briarlight, before that gets brought up). Cloudskye The Dark Forest Is Rising 02:23, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong, I do agree with Nightshine, but, I see where you're coming from, Fox. Cloudskye The Dark Forest Is Rising 02:24, March 7, 2011 (UTC)
Oh ok. foxI'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 00:19, March 8, 2011 (UTC

Rowanclaw(Ki)~ Declined

[[File:Rowanclaw.kit.png]] This is my first WW charart, i'm used to using COTC blanks but these are good blanks, too, and i know i will get used to these when i get more involved in the wiki.foxI'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 06:06, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to the correct section. Rowanclaw was never seen as a kit so this will be declined. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 06:09, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Scarletwind's right, although this is good for your first WW charart. Cloudskye The Dark Forest Is Rising 06:11, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Oh ok. Let me check, just a second.. foxI'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 06:44, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Can I change this to Tigerkit?(tigerheart) foxI'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 06:45, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart already has a kit image. --Gοldenpelt 06:48, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ahhh alright then. foxI'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 07:38, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Declined due to reasons above--Nightshine 00:20, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Stonefur (A) - Declined

[[File:Stonefur.apprentice.png]] He was mentioned as an apprentice on SotC pg. 52. Paleclaw 05:10, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

But he was never actually seen as an apprentice so this will have to be declined. Sorry Nightshine 05:13, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

But cats like Runningwind, who were only mentioned as an apprentice in SotC, have apprentice images. Paleclaw 05:19, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Moved to correct section. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:15, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Sasha (W) - Declined

[[File:Sasha.warrior.png]]She was seen as a warrior. I followed her rogue markings. Comments? --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 09:25, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Ooh! Lovely, Wildheart! Darken the shading, brighten the highlights a tad, blur the ear pink, and make the darker color of the ears a bit more noticeable. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 14:23, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the markings on her legs a bit more, too? Other then that, this looks amazing! Rainlegs 14:35, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to do this bud, but she never accepted to becoming a warrior. This might be declined. -ſceheartBlah blah 23:50, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Iceheart is right (I was about to post that myself). She was never a real warrior of RiverClan. Sorry --Nightshine 23:52, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Damn. I thought she was a warrior for that time when her kits were growing up; before she left them there to become Clan warriors themselves? --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:57, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Can Wildheart say that? (This is Mintstarr, but my sig isn't working.) 23:07, March 10, 2011 (UTC)

Floss (Q)- Declined

[[File:Floss.queen.png]]It says that she had just given birth so I thought since other loners, kittypets, etc. get queen blanks, so should Floss. Roo Hawkfrost lover♥ 21:57, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Blur the shading a bit o3o ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 21:59, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

blur the tail patch a tad. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 22:01, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Highlight it more. Rainey 23:40, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Floss was never seen as a queen so this will be declined. Sorry--Nightshine 00:49, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

But neither was Leafstar's Mother, but she got a queen image. ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 00:52, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

You know, I'm not really sure why Leafstar's Mother got an image. But as for Floss she was never seen as a queen. --Nightshine 01:02, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oh well I thought since it said she had kits she should get a queen image. Princess did, but oh well. :P Roo Hawkfrost lover♥ 01:45, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Oakheart [Alt. W] Withdrawn

[[File:Oakheart.warrior.alt.png]] He was mentioned as Tawny many times in Bluestar's Prophecy. Comments? Echostar229 22:42, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. You might want to change the ear pink, it's a bit hard to see. --Gοldenpelt 22:44, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

It's not in his trivia. This needs a citation before he can have an alt. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 22:45, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Found one and added it. --Gοldenpelt 22:59, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe fix the shading on the back and neck and tail and recenter the ear pink. Light to the night sing the song of life 23:01, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Change the eye color too. He never had blue eyes. :D Light to the night sing the song of life 23:04, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

It has green. They only look blue. --Gοldenpelt 01:27, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Move the earpink towards the middle of the ear, and make the ear color a more natural color. Rainey 10:20, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Can someone help me with blurring? Echostar229 04:42, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

I can, if you want. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:57, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred it for you. If you don't like what I did, feel free to revert the edit. I don't mind. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:58, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and blur the earpink. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 21:21, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Thanks Wildheart! Echostar229 03:00, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. =) Brighten the earpink and add highlights to the front leg --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 23:41, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make it tawny coloured, this is pale brown --Nightshine 23:26, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. @Nightshine- Isn't tawny light brown? I looked it up in my dictionary and it said, "a light shade of brown" Echostar229 04:15, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Ear pink looks off center and there's not a whole lot of it. May I suggest fixing this? Cloudskye The Dark Forest Is Rising 06:06, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

Tawny is a light red-brown, so make this a darker browny-red. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 07:20, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

On the back left leg and the left ear, there are a few blurred pixels, you might want to fix them. RiverpeltStarClan's Chosen One XD 20:18, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

On what Wildheart said, look at my alternate for Tawnypelt being approved farther up the page for tawny. MINTSTARR You have a sailor's mouth! 21:23, March 6, 2011 (UTC)

But, that one's practically ginger! Tawny cats look like this>> Tawny1 Tawny2 Tawny3 Those were the first three results from when I googled Tawny Cats. I'm willing to make it look like this>>Tawny? But I'm not sure if that's too dark. Echostar229 03:03, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and, Reuploaded. Echostar229 03:06, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

The last one is what I consider to be tawny. All the other ones were cream, not tawny. Enlarge the leg highlights and connect them to the chest highlight. =) (Wildheart who is STILL too lazy to log in.)

Echostar, I do agree with you that mine is practically ginger, but it isn't apparently. That is currently cream, it needs to be tawny (brown-ginger). Blur the shading. MINTSTARR You have a sailor's mouth! 22:38, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. I did three shades of brown from the darker cat.


Which one is closer? Echostar229 01:37, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

The 2nd one, but it needs to be a lot more gingery--Nightshine 01:38, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

How's this? [[File:Oakheart.tawny.44.png]]It's gingery! Echostar229 01:41, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

A little bit too gingery XD I like this colour: [[File:Oakheart_colours.png]] What does everybody think? --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 02:18, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

That's a good balance between the ginger and brown. I like it. Rainlegs 02:25, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

That colour looks almost the same as his other images though, maybe he shouldn't get an alternate just for being called tawny. Tawny is pretty much ginger-brown and Oakheart is a red-brown tom --Nightshine 02:52, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

I only brought this up because I thought tawny meant," Light Brown". I guess my dictionary,, and my aunt, a cat breeder, were wrong. Echostar229 02:55, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Okay...... I looked up the noun form of Tawny on another site. It said:


2. a shade of brown tinged with yellow; dull yellowish brown.

So..... does he still get an alt.? Rainlegs 04:17, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Right... I don't think so. I didn't even think about that. =( Sorry Echostar... --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:23, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

Since it ^^ up there said it was a yellow-y brown, would this work?:[[File:Oakheart_Colors.png]] Too golden? Rainlegs 01:41, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

When you google it, this colour comes up -->[[File:Tawnycolour.png]]. Not really yellowy but thats what it gave me. -ſceheartBlah blah 03:35, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Well.... should I make the tawny more like Sasha's? Or the yellowy-brownish color? Or will this be declined? [Please say no!] Echostar229 16:43, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

This looks too creamy right now. Make it a more reddish color. And blur highlights. Mistfire 1000 Edits! 16:52, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, since we never came to a conclusion, and I sorta agree with Nightshine about the whole 'no alt.' thingy, I'm giving up on this 'lil buddy. Echostar229 03:06, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. W) - Declined

[[File:Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png]]Comments? Concerns? I hope I posted it right! Splook tonight we are victorious! 01:27, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know why the file is named mail, but change it to Tigerheart.warrior.alt.png. Make it look like a warrior version of his alternate apprentice image--Nightshine 01:31, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, it's named mail because I emailed it to Splashpelt. As for the image, make it more brown and darken the ear pink. :3 ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 01:33, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Far from good. I still have to fix the outline and get rid of that mysterious shading coming from it. Just letting you know I'm still here. I made it more like his apprentice version. More golden. Splook tonight we are victorious! 00:32, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Now he looks way too neon. Copy his colors from his other alt. chararts and match the stripe pattern. Blur the ear-pink and lighten it. Darken the shading and add a highlight to his shoulder, face, and brighten the one on his tail. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 00:50, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Umm... Less green. PtEЯO :D I'm back! 18:49, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. It should be more yellow/golden than yellow green. Mistystar Trust the fire within...

Re-uploaded. You are so right. Way too yellow! Stripes = Fail. I copied the colors Splook tonight we are victorious! 23:20, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Better:) Make the stripes a bit neater ( no offense! ), and make the ear pink a little more triangular. Mistystar Trust the fire within...

Can you give him a pupil, too? Rainlegs 01:23, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Add eye color and the ear pink seems too bright. You really need to make it, well, more golden. The stripes look kind of odd as well, I suggest you redo them. Lone Wolf 20:37, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, add the pupil. Make the stripes like the ones on his alt. apprentice. Mistystar Trust the fire within... 21:31, February 16, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. You're so right, the stripes... Are these better? :D Splook tonight we are victorious! 02:14, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Maybe add one more to the base of the tail, make the ear pink paler, and blur the stripes some more. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 02:16, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Also, can you add some more stripes to his legs, one on his head, and one on the spot where his tail meets his body? [Well, really, his butt. :P] It also looks like he's missing some eye lineart, and the lineart's blurred on his back, front [his left] left leg, chest fur, and his tail. [It's either blurred or it's all weird/ slightly fuzzy.] Rainlegs 04:21, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Make his stripes narrower, blurred, maybe add a few more, lighten the ear pink a little, blur it...and thats it, I think :D Mistystar Trust the fire within... 22:43, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

This looks great Splashy :D! Just blur the stripes, and add a face hi-lite. Mistfire Epic Fail 03:53, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah you can look on one of the tutorials for the eye lineart. Also, you don't need to keep reuploading the file as a new one every time; remember to click "upload a new version of this file" on the file details page. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 05:08, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Splook tonight we are victorious! 22:38, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

[[File:Eyes_-_Warrior,_Medicine_Cat,_and_Deputy.png]] Blur shading, stripes, and highlights. Fix the eye pixel; you'll have to tweak the lineart. Use a pencil on the one-pixel size with a hard edge and follow ^ this picture ^ Add a few more smaller stripes and change the largest back stripe so that it's not almost-touching that chest stripe. Much better =) --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 06:26, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Still working on that eye! *groan.* I will do it right next time. Splook tonight we are victorious! 00:03, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripe on his chest thinner and curl all of them a bit to look a bit like this --->[[File:Tigerheart.warrior.png]]

which is Tigerheart's regular warrior charart. Try to match the stripe pattern. Make the ear pink a bit more pink, right now it looks kinda orangey and give him a torn ear. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 01:07, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Splashpelt doesn't have to match his original charart's stripes. This is an alternate; you can do whatever you want. Blur the stripes a bit more. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 04:29, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nice job! Blur the stripes, and make them a bit thinner, they're sorta blocky. Mistfire Epic Fail 00:28, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. How about this stripe pattern? Splook tonight we are victorious! 02:15, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks better! Tone down the earpink color, though. Rainlegs 02:22, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

OH! I just realized I forgot the torn ear! Splook tonight we are victorious! 02:23, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and fix the eye lineart!! =) Darken the shading as well. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 03:44, February 22, 2011 (UTC)

I'm really sorry I haven't had a post in a day or so! I will have it done by this evening, my computer is having some problems! Splook tonight we are victorious! 22:18, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

I'll fix the ear, don't worry:) Splook tonight we are victorious! 00:56, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the stripes are overlapping onto the lineart. Mistfire Epic Fail 03:35, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

The eye pixel should be more noticeable. Look at some other approved chararts to see what it should look like--Nightshine 05:28, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

The line-art is a little blurred on the front foot closest to us. -Sunheart- 07:44, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Kay, I'm practicing my eye lineart...sorry for the big delay! I'll have it up tomorrow! Splook tonight we are victorious! 02:03, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Why can't I do eyes? Splook tonight we are victorious! 02:28, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the stripes more. It looks a bit messed up. Rainey 02:36, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink paler, it looks too neon. Darken the shading, and try to match the stripe pattern in his alt. apprentice charart. ScarletwindMedicine Cat of SolarClan 01:23, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes and fix the eyes! If you need help, I will assist =P --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 20:01, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Ok, Had to let you know I'm still here. I know the stripes are blotchy but some people say follow his alt. apprentice stripes and others say warrior stripes. What one? And Wildheart, I left the eyes blank because I need a little tutorial or something. The apprentice tutorials didn't help! Splook tonight we are victorious! 21:12, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

It's not too hard. Just take the pencil tool, set it to a one-pixel brush, and modify the lineart. The blank linearts you download on the mainpage have a weird eye lineart. You have to draw over the lineart. Best thing to do to ensure accuracy is to download that picture I posted ^above^ and open it in your editing program in another window. Then open up Tigerheart's image and zoom in on the eye. Adjust the screen so that both the windows are open beside each other and then you can see when you make a mistake. Hope I helped. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 21:20, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and you don't need to reupload a new file every time you make a change. Just click the little button that says "upload a new version of this file" or something like that. --Wildheart L i v i n g w i t h o n l y m y t h o u g h t s. 22:43, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Follow his alt. apprentice stripes. It makes the most sense since they're both alts. -ſceheartBlah blah 02:52, March 4, 2011 (UTC)

First: blur the stripes more add the eye color and the pupil, second, match the tabby ones to the ones on his warrior image, thrid, add shading, fourth, blur the earpink Maplepool 00:53, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the eye color. Rainey 11:06, March 8, 2011 (UTC)

thanks Wildheart, that helped. Haven't been able to go on sorry. I PROMISE i'll have it up by tomorrow. But one question- Do i copy his stripes from his warrior or alt apprentice? Both are very different stripes. Some say apprentice and some say warrior. Which one? (so sorry I haven't been on, very sorry) Splook tonight we are victorious! 02:28, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

Alt. apprentice. This is a golden-colored alt., that was a golden-colored alt., it just makes sense to me. :) Rainlegs 03:42, March 9, 2011 (UTC)

May I take over? It hasn't really been worked on. Mistfire 1000 Edits! 15:57, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

I thought you were working on Pinestar. May I take over when 7 days is up? --Moonleaf 18:21, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I see the others that have been on here for months, mine will never be that good. I'm not ready for this yet, Since I cannot even do eyes. Anyone can take over now. Splook tonight we are victorious! 21:11, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Aw Splashy. XD I can take over... Roo Hawkfrost lover♥ 21:16, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

D: --Moonleaf 21:36, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

I asked first... --Moonleaf 21:37, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

-cries- --Moonleaf 21:45, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Fine you can have it. :P Roo Hawkfrost lover♥ 22:04, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. --Moonleaf 22:08, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I re-did it. --Moonleaf 22:12, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Good job! Make the stripes on the haunches more triangular like his apprentice alt. Mistystar Trust the fire within... 22:15, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

I will do that, but I named the file wrong -facepalm- --Moonleaf 22:17, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Its okay, I did that on mine at first XD Also, make the ear pink more visible. Mistystar Trust the fire within... 22:19, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I'll get to the earpink. --Moonleaf 22:23, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Better! The haunch stripes could be more triangular, and one of them is really dark and should be blurred :) Mistystar Trust the fire within... 22:25, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Let me get on track, Mistystar. =) --Moonleaf 22:29, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded The changes won't show. It'll be fine --Moonleaf 22:32, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Add hilights; it might just not be showing though... Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 22:01, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

There are highlights. --Moonleaf 01:07, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the stripes and ear pink Nightshine 23:02, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the stripes' shapes vary on the tail. ℱrostheartϡ Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia 01:15, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Roo Hawkfrost lover♥ 01:43, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Declining due to the fact the section's cluttering the page and hasn't been approved since last month. Artist may resubmit at an appropriate time once any suggested changes have been made. --Bramble -Hyuu~ 00:38, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Toadstep (A) - Declined

[[File:Toadstep.apprentice.png]] It makes sense for him to have one as characters like Jingo and Owlwhisker have images (kittypet and kit) for ranks they were never actually seen in. We know that Toadstep and Rosepetal were apprentices (mentioned as new warriors), so I think that they should be able to have apprentice images if other cats can have images of this like. Just a short explanation for people who don't get why I made this. :P Constructments? Mossy go away. 03:05, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Glad to see you back, Mrs. Moose :) Darken the shading. Looks good. ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 03:10, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I can't darken the shading. I already have the shading layer on 100% opacity. I did a bit on the legs, though, because I saw a place without shading. Mossy go away. 03:14, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't he be black and white? I think you should go over the shading again because i cant see any what so ever. And i saw what you said about this being available for approval, but he was never acctually seen as an apprentice, and just because others have unneccassary pictures doesnt mean we should make more. This might be declined. -ſceheartBlah blah 04:18, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this is black and white; looks like it to me. Also, Runningwind got an apprentice image, and he was never seen as an apprentice. Leafstar's mom got a queen image, etc. ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 04:49, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Iceheart . . . just because the cat wasn't seen in the rank, doesn't mean they weren't in it. I don't see what's unnecessary about these. And honestly, you must be blind to not see shading on this! There isn't much but I'm working on adding more, so calm down. And this is black and white. What the heck are you seeing? Mossy go away. 04:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

He should get an apprentice image, but he was never seen as an apprentice. I'm sure we've had a discussion about this before. Nightshine 06:56, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, so it stays? The 'but' in that statement sort of confused me. xD Mossy go away. 07:52, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well if this stays... add/brighten the highlights on the tail. :3 Roo Hawkfrost lover♥ 14:26, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

You did an excellent job Mossy! Blur where the black meets the white. Mistfire 1000 Edits! 16:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

No, he shouldn't get an apprentice charart. Neither should Rosepetal. Nightshine 17:25, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't make sense unless we're also removing a whole lot of chararts that were already done, like Jingo's kittypet image, Owlwhisker's kit image . . . from what I knew, we did do images of ranks cats were just mentioned in . . . there are lots on the wiki. Mossy go away. 18:20, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

For Jingo, he said he was a kittypet. Toadstep never was seen as an apprentice, he wasn't mentioned either. At the Gathering, it just said that he was a new warrior. ℱrostheartϡ Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia 18:23, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Frostheart, his mentor was mentioned. And there's a source. Welcomed as a new warrior, mentored by a warrior in ThunderClan . . . Mossy go away. 18:29, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm.... Pretty good! I think you should smudge it a bit more, but I don't know. Do you know any alts I could do? Cheetahstar 1 2 3 21:58, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Mmm, I don't know of any, sorry. I'm not going to smudge it because his other images aren't smudged. This image isn't an alt. ;) Mossy go away. 22:11, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Since he was never seen as an apprentice, this will be declined. Sorry Nightshine 22:35, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Well, then, tell me why cats like Jingo get a kittypet charart! This makes no sense. Mossy go away. 22:37, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Rosepetal (A)~ Declined

Okay, since it wassaid above that Toadstep and Rosepetal could have Apprentice chararts, and my last one was approved, I'm making rosepetals Apprentice charart. Here she is:

[[File:Rosepetal_A.png]]I tried my best, but I think my main coat color was too dark so the highlights didnt work proppererly. Comments? Critisism? Feathermoon 16:55, March 20, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Sorry but I already had this reserved before you so this will probably get declined. Roo Hawkfrost lover♥ 17:04, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, My mistake, Rainy. Thats fine :) Feathermoon 17:29, March 20, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I Discarded this Feathermoon 17:33, March 20, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

I don't think they should get apprentice images. Declining. And for future reference, Feathermoon, it's withdraw, not discard. ^^ ℱrostheartϡ Hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia 17:34, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

. . . what? I even talked to you about it on IRC and told you why it was acceptable, and you agreed to leave the image up. Sorry, but now I'm just confused. Mossy go away. 18:17, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Nevermind. Mossy go away. 18:21, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Brackenfur alt. - Declined

A lot of times he is described as ginger. Comments? YatzSliversword Ah, spring... 16:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC) [[File:Brackenfur..png]]

Umm... He is ginger. Sorry but this will be declined. -ſceheartBlah blah 18:46, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

And I moved this to the right section. -ſceheartBlah blah 18:49, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Violet (K) - Declined

[[File:Violet.kit.png]]Ok, she was mentioned as a kit along with her siblings in Secrets of the Clans, I believe. I may be wrong and have gotten the book mixed up with another but I know she was. :3 Comments? Roo Hawkfrost lover♥ 01:10, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful Raineh! Make the earpink a touch redder. Mistfire Spring rain falls 01:13, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think we ever saw her as a kit. Sorry Nightshine 04:27, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

She was mentioned as a kit in Secrets of the Clans. ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 04:38, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well she wasn't mentioned by name, Barley only said, " and my littermates." And Violet wasn't actually seen as a kit. Nightshine 04:44, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Violet is Barely's littermate. Also, it said that their mother threw them out as kits. ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 05:38, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, but we know she was Barley's littermate and I thought cats got images for being mentioned as something? Roo Hawkfrost lover♥ 12:16, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Barley (K)- Declined

okay, im hoping since Violet should get a kit image and violet was seen With her siblings and barley is her sibling, here is his kit image.

[[File:Barley.K..png]]Take my word on it, its not very good XD

Feathermoon 02:26, March 22, 2011 (UTC)Feathermoon

Not bad. Make the ear pink larger, color his nose, darken the shading in the white areas, and maybe extend the black patches on his left side. ScarletwindStep into theLight 02:35, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

reuploaded Feathermoon 03:07, March 22, 2011 (UTC)feathermoon

As with Violet's image, we never saw Barley as a kit. Nightshine 04:31, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Toadstep (A) - Declined

[[File:Toadstep.apprentice.png]]I don't see why this image was declined, as it is the same principle with Jingo's image and the kit pictures that were posted. I even went on IRC and talked with Nightshine, she didn't give a signle reason and basically told me to accept it wasn't going to get approved. Still, if this is going to be declined again, please actually tell my why! Don't just archive it so you can ignore my questions. Mossy go away. 02:55, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Although it's obvious that he was an apprentice, I believe the policy is that if they weren't actually mentioned or don't actually appear as that rank, they don't get a charart. It's the same reason that we don't give Longtail or Thrushpelt apprentice images, even though they were mentioned to only have become warriors recently. --Gοldenpelt 03:02, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

We never knew Longtail or Thrushpelt's mentor, but we know Toadstep's. Cloudtail. Cloudtail was his mentor, and if someone has a mentor they're obviously an apprentice. Thus, I think this charart is needed. ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 03:50, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Rainwhisper pointed this out to me: Whiteclaw was never seen as an apprentice, but we know he was mentored by Leopardstar, and he got a charart. Why should Toadstep be any different? ⚛Nightflower⚛☣Absol invasion 03:53, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

I did give you a reason why it was declined. He was never seen as an apprentice, only as a kit and a warrior. Nightshine 04:26, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Now that isn't fair. I've seen images for cats that were never mentioned for that rank. Nightcloud got a queen charart, and she was never mentioned as a queen - even though it's common knowldge that she had Breezepelt. Whiteclaw has an apprenitce image, and he was never physically seen as an apprentice in any of the books. Skye Meow 14:41, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Nightshine, you DID say that, but then I responded with exactly what Cloudskye said above. Mossy go away. 21:33, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Tawnypelt alt. - Declined

She is described as tawny. Comments? YatzSliversword Ah, spring... 21:09, March 23, 2011 (UTC) [[File:Ta.png]]

Isn't tawny a more reddish colour? .Skystar. 21:22, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Move it to the correct section, and make it more tawny; then add ear pink, hilights, and fix the eyes. Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 21:24, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Fix the eyes? YatzSliversword Ah, spring... 21:25, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

I think there is too much black on it. .Skystar. 21:28, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

No, its just done wrong. Check the tutorials, they show the correct way to do them. Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 21:28, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Tawny's alternate warrior image has already been done, so this will have to be declined. Mossy go away. 21:55, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Mossy is right, sorry. I'll archive this soon Nightshine 23:07, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Acorntail (D) - Declined

[[File:Acorntail_D.jpg|Acorntail_D.jpg]]Done! Here's my first charart. Comments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SquirrelFlame29 (talkcontribs)

This is in the wrong section. It'll have to be declined because Acorntail already has a deputy image. --Gοldenpelt 00:56, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Goldenpaw is right, this will be declined, sorry--Nightshine 01:41, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Yup, and remember to sign your posts with ~~~~. Mossy go away. 02:10, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me. What do you mean by wrong section? And how do I check if something needs a charart or not? SquirrelFlame29 Defying the Darkness 01:49, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

This is the charart section. You probably posted it in the Discussion section by just clicking "add a new topic", but you should edit the bottom charart section and add a new type-two heading. You have to search for them =3 If a character already has an image on their page, they don't need another. --Wildheart Back from Maui; tanless 02:14, March 26, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll try another one. SquirrelFlame29 Defying the Darkness 00:37, March 27, 2011 (UTC)

Greystripe alternate apprentice version up - Declined

[[File:ITHROWMYHANDSUPINTHEAIR.png]]It said that he was solide grey when he was first introdused without the dark black stripe down his back so i thought i could take a crack at it... at the same time can i join? this is my first char art and i think i abused the shadowing tool XP Dinostar 01:18, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

First, you have to join before posting a charart. Second, Graystripe doesn't need an alternate for being just plain gray since it's just like his regular image just without the stripe. Nightshine 01:41, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

You don't have to join to post . . . don't know where it's said, but I heard Bramble say it so many times. But yes, this should be declined. Mossy go away. 02:08, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ashfur (Alt. A) - Declined

[[File:Ashfur.Alt.Apprentice.png]]Crystalstar999 05:15, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reference? --Wildheart Back from Maui; tanless 05:18, March 28, 2011 (UTC

Says on his Trivia Crystalstar999 05:19, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but you don't know which of them was called tawny, so this doesn't get an alternate. --Wildheart Back from Maui; tanless 05:21, March 28, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, It says, "Him or his sister, Ferncloud were called tawny." Not giving a real clue WHO it is, therefore, He doesn't need one, this shall be declined, Hey ,Wildheart, when will my sigge be done?..... Maplepool 12:16, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Please do not ask questiosn that do not have anything to do with PCA. Rainey 12:19, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Rainwillow is correct. As what Wildheart said above, you do not have any real idea whom it was, so this will be declined. Appledash Wondercolts, united forever! 20:31, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

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