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Feathertail (Alt.K) ~ Declined Edit

In the manga at the back of Crookedstar's Promise, Feathertail is shown with a solid gray pelt. Plus, I cannot believe this is my third charart. At least it's not a tabby. xD Thistle. 23:35, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

[[File:Feathertail.kit.alt.png]]

Bootiful, Thistly~! Blur the chest highlight and shading around it. Elorisa 00:23, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Is the nose ment to be gray or pink? ~DJCandyFun~ I do enjoy fun...8D00:29, Sun, Nov, 27, 2011

Gray. All I can see is, yes, the chest highlight/shading needs to be blurred, and the shading on the paws a tad, as well. :3 Leggo 🏈 01:58, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

She's called Featherpaw in the manga at the end of Crookedstar's Promise. This needs to be an apprentice alt, which cannot be done at this moment. Shelly For a limited time only 02:06, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Declined due to reason above. -ScarletwindLisanna 03:11, November 27, 2011 (UTC)


Longtail (Alt. E) - DeclinedEdit

I wish for this to become the alternate elder of longtail image I hope you exept it. NoneStar Will help you.

[[File:Longtail_elderAlternate.jpg]]Image approval-alternate elder Longtail

Sorry I forgot the picture on the last on but here it is. NoneStar Will help you.

The only time he's ever needed an alt. is when he was described as brown, I believe. I'm sorry, but I think this will have to be declined Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 01:56, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Again, Twi is right. This is declined unless you have a citation. Pleas read over the guidelines again, as I think you may be a little confused about how this project works. llwildheartl02:31 Sun Nov 27


Shadepelt (Lo) - Declined Edit

[[File:Shadepelt.loner.png]]Snatched her. :3 Just in case if it's decided Shadepelt, Speckletail, Frostfur, and Loudbelly get loner images. ~Breezewhisker~ 02:55, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

I like this, but you should probably refrain from putting it up until a decision is reached. llwildheartl02:58 Sun Nov 27


Yeah, wasn't quite sure if it was or not. ~Breezewhisker~ 03:05, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

For now, until a final decision is reached. I'm gonna decline this to make more space, but feel free to put this back up if we do decide on giving them lone chararts. -ScarletwindLisanna 03:07, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Velvet (Q) ~ Declined Edit

[[File:Velvet.queen.png]] Comments? Pouncey! 03:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Move the nametag to the middle of her chest and blur the shading a bit. Shelly For a limited time only 03:43, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rename it Velvet.queen.png, make the background transparent and add depth to the eyes by varying the colors from light to dark. Like I said on chat, it looks great! Atelda 03:45, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Pouncey! 04:07, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Make the nametag bigger and make it hang a little, such as in Nutmeg's pixil (that's the only one I can think of atm). The earpink is too bright. You can take it from an approved white cat (I'm assuming she's supposed to be white?) On the belly, there is a strip of lighter colored pixils, make sure the shading is consistant there, as well as on the top of the tail. Iveh Yo! 16:26, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Her description says silver, but I just tried to copy the color of her kittypet charart. And due to technical difficulties I can't post the new image until Friday or Saturday :/ Pouncey! 21:18, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the a smidge since the kp version looks abit lighter, and I agree with Ivy on the collar -Bloo!yo

23:12, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I think the kittypet should be tweaked, because it looks white to me, not silver. Iveh Yo! 23:26, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs to be lightened, alot. And can you make the earpink not so bright? Looks nice, though. :) Thistle. 04:43, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading everywhere except the face. ~DJCandyFun~ I do enjoy fun...8D 04:58, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the belly shading and make the name tag bigger and more circular. Starshine☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 21:21, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, and lighten the yellow on the circle in the collar if you can please. Sweetflower 22:45, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Nice first image here Pouncey! ;) Dull the highlights.  Stoneclaw    01:19, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

There's some waste on <---- that side of her around the paw farthest from us, the area around the collar, and the side of the face. :3 Atelda 03:43, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Theres some dots of waste around the whole charart, but yes, it's mainley where Atelda had described. :) Thistle. 04:51, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Fallow, are you still working on this?    ℓightning      21:07, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh yes im still working on this, just havent been able to get to a computer all week. Pouncey! 00:44, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Sorry it took so long D: Pouncey! 00:58, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

The tag should be more to our left, underneath her chin. oblivionAudience? 16:25, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the ear pink and the shading. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 19:24, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Naw, naw. Teh earpink and shading are good as they are, Darken the shading a bit. -Bloo!yo

19:48, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

The collar seems a little off... It doesn't look even with the rest of the head area. Try making it more like Nutmeg's, perhaps.    ℓightning      02:05, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

The eyes look almost...purple. Color pick them from the kittypet image. Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 22:45, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful!!! Just blur the shading that's on the belly. Starshine☾The Full Moon Awaits☽ 22:02, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 23:59, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Some of the shading is on top of the tail, can you switch that so it's on the bottom? Lovely. :) Thistle. 03:48, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Once again, Fallow... Are you still working on this? It's been a few days without an upload.    ℓightning      03:50, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes I'm still working on this, I just want to see if I can get more comments before I reupload it. I want it to be perfect when I reupload Pouncey! 18:07, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

You don't need to wait until there's more comments. That just wastes time, and makes the leads think you're not working on it.    ℓightning      18:13, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the belly shading. And define the earpink. Grell No question at all! 20:30, November 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

This is lovely! Just darken the highlights(If you use them. If you don't darken the area where the shading isn't) Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 23:08, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

No, shes silver, so the highlights are supposed to be really bright. -Bloo!yo

00:27, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Define the earpink. Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 01:07, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the foreleg farthest from us. Ivyheart =P 02:02, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Blur where the shading meets the highlights.  Stoneclaw    05:30, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

The collar just looks off. Make it thinner and protrude from her neck so it doesn't look painted on. Also add shading to it and the tag, which should be more oval to make it look like it's hanging. Brighten the earpink and add shading to the eyes. llwildheartl04:57 Sun Nov 20

Reuploaded And there are no highlights on this one. Pouncey! 05:28, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Move the tag over this way <--- a bit more, erase a bit of the collar lineart as it's on the thick side. Lighten up the shading near the base of the tail, darken the earpink color (I preferably liked it before you changed it, annoying I know, sorry!) and add depth to the eye by varying the colors from light to dark. Nice work! Atelda 05:37, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a lot and add a lighter patch (like a highlight, but not) to the tag. It's metal, so it would probably catch the light somehow. llwildheartl05:37 Sun Nov 20

Reuploaded I think i fixed the collar... Pouncey! 06:35, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

There's some white leaking onto the collar at the top. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 16:48, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Pouncey! 18:57, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Still there. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 05:01, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. Nice job with the collar.    ℓightning      07:45, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

There's a really dark patch of shading on the back of the haunch near the tail; make it lighter or make all the rest of the shading darker :3 llwildheartl03:14 Wed Nov 23

And specifically blur the shading near the base of the tail. --SplookMavinotp♥ 02:44, November 24, 2011 (UTC)

Fallow. Again. Are you still working on this? It's been about five days without an upload.    ℓightning      02:10, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Since Fallow has not uploaded, and it's been a week, I'll be taking over.    ℓightning      03:40, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Longtail (Alt. E) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Longtail_elderAlternate.jpg|thumb|left]] I wish for this to be Longtails alternate elder version since he does not have one. NoneStar Will help you.

Unless you can provide a cite for a time in which he was described as a black tabby, this will be declined. Shelly For a limited time only 01:16, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Dapplepelt (W) ~ DeclinedEdit

[[File:Dapplepelt.warrior.png]]OA= Mousetalon and it needed to match the MC. Don't tell me to change stuff on the pelt because I put the warrior blank over Ivystripe's MC version! :3 Comments? Ivyheart =P 00:21, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Also, would this be considered tweaked or redone? Because its a whole new image but I just used the MC version under the blank... Ivyheart =P 00:22, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

It would be considered tweaked. I see nothing wrong anyways. (I'm glad you didn't make the same mistake as me, cheating by erasing the herbs... -.-) --Leafstrike-- 00:36, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Erm no, this is still art theft, as you used my image and just put a new blank over it (what I was planning to do) You need to do all of this image yourself and it would be considered redone. Iveh Yo! 02:14, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ivy, no. This is art theft. Moonleaf did the exact same thing. Do it yourself, or it gets declined.    ℓightning      02:23, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Oh this is art theft? I'm sooo sorry!!! I had no idea! Just decline this. Ivyheart =P 03:31, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, sadly, it is. Declined, by artist request.    ℓightning      03:35, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Sol (alt. R 2) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Sol.alt.rouge.2.png]]

Here he is! See, in TFW, he was said to be a mottled brown and black tom. So I made him. I know, i know, i forgot his tufted ears, i'll add those when i upload again. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 18:53, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be referring to him as a mottled tortie, though? He already has brown and black on him, and I think they said he was mottled as well (not sure, goes to check) Anyway, if he is already mottled, I think this will be declined, if not, it stays up. Iveh Yo! 19:07, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

But, a black and brown cat is far from the same thing as a tortie. If he is alredy mottled, fine, i'll take the mottles off of him. But how can a tortie and black-and-brown cat be the same thing? Maple♥poolMischief brewing 19:09, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I'm saying he already has black and brown on him, they probably didn't want to name ALL the colors on him. I won't decline this, I want to see what the others think. And by the way, he needs mottles on the black as well. Smudge the black patches into his pelt. Iveh Yo! 19:13, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, give me a min. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 19:15, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

If they wanted to name the colours, wouldn't they have just called him tortoiseshell?Hey Shelly.... Penguiuuuiiinnn..... 19:16, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, thats what i thought, thats why i added it to his trivia. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 19:20, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Mottled his black patches, smudged his black patches into the bronw patches, and made his ears tufted. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 19:30, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading. Hey Shelly.... Penguiuuuiiinnn..... 19:31, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded-Darkened shading.

Sorry Maple, but I think I agree with Ivy on this one. Well... if this stays up, make the mottles a bit smaller and more... what's the word... uneven I guess? They look to uniform right now, they almost look like spots. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 20:13, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

I dunno, we've had alts made for less. If he was described as a mottled brown and black tom, it's different enough from being described as a tortie in my opinion. However, wouldn't he be a rogue at this point as he's been attacking the Clans? Shelly For a limited time only 20:28, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

He wasn't "attacking" he was just snooping. Then Lionblaze found him, and brought him back to camp. So, i'd say he was a loner, THEN a rouge.

Yeah, but before that, during the book's prologues, he stated "let revenge begin" or something like that. He was obviously already plotting against the Clans, I really think that classifies him as a rogue. Shelly For a limited time only 20:33, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Do we know that was Sol in the prologue? It was never stated outright. Also, he's been causing trouble for a long while, so, he's a rogue. Simple as that.    ℓightning      20:34, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

'Kay, i'll change this to a rouge blank, give me like 10 mins, kay? Maple♥poolMischief brewing 21:27, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded-Changed blanks, took longer than i thought. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 22:15, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and rename the file to Sol.rogue.alt2.png.    ℓightning      22:18, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Could you blur the transition between the brown and black patches? Shelly For a limited time only 22:28, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the mottles a bit, it'll look more realistic. And blur the earpink a bit. SnowyXPerry = Serry! 01:11, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think this should get an alt, for the reasons Ivy explained. However, if we do decide to give him an alt, I think that he would probably be brown with black mottles or black with brown mottles. It just makes more sense to me. llwildheartl01:39 Thu Dec 1

I also agree. This should not get an alt, for the same reasons. That is basically a tortie. Ivyheart =P 04:03, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

This is pretty much what a black and brown mottled cat would look like. A dark tortoiseshell. ~Breezewhisker~ 04:12, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, and remember Tawnypelt is a brown and black tortie. Ivyheart =P 15:12, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Well, if it's staying, it needs tufted ears. Shelly For a limited time only 18:46, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

I agree that this shouldnt get one. Unless someone wants to make a fuss I think its declined... -ſceheartBlah blah 21:51, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Awww, okay, the, i'll take it off his page(Unless someone already did.) I'll look for differ chararts to do. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 22:59, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Hayberry~ Declined Edit

This is my charart For Hayberry! Comments??

Hayberry has no decription, she gets no charart. Shelly For a limited time only 22:38, December 2, 2011 (UTC) [[File:Hayberry_(Queen_F.).png|frame|[[Hayberry]]]]

Hayberry - DeclinedEdit

Comments for Hayberry Dewstar PEACE 22:45, December 2, 2011 (UTC)[[File:Hayberry_(Queen_F.).png|thumb|[[Hayberry]] (Queen F.)]]

Do not post this again. It was declined for a reason.    ℓightning      22:47, December 2, 2011 (UTC)


Molekit (Kit M.) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Molekit_(Kit_M.).png]] Any comments for tweaking or anything?? Dewstar PEACE 00:17, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea what this image is for. Molepaw from NTP doesn't have a description, and Molepaw from OoTS already has a kit image.    ℓightning      00:21, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

..declining.. SplookMavinotp♥ 00:31, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Molekit (Kit M.) - Declined Edit

Any comments for tweaking or anything?? Dewstar PEACE 00:17, December 3, 2011 (UTC)[[File:Molekit_(Kit_M.).png|thumb|[[Molekit]] (kit M.)]]

Molekit already has an image. You can't make him a new one, sorry Iveh Yo! 00:35, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hollyleaf (Alt.W) ~ Declined Edit

[[File:Hollyleaf.warrior.alt.png]]I love doing chararts. ^^

Anyway, in TFW on page 268 she was descripted as gray. Argue if you must. ;) Thistle. 21:36, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

If you go add that to her article, and cite it, I'll believe you. =P    ℓightning      21:40, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, Thistle... I just looked. That was referring to Cinderheart, not Hollyleaf. I have to decline this. If another lead disagrees, feel free to discuss. Shelly For a limited time only 21:41, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Lilykit (Ki) ~ Declined Edit

[[File:Lilykit.kit.png]]First image with layers~! Comments? And yes, I know about the waste. I'll get it in a minute. Elorisa 18:07, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Lilykit has no description. Declined. Shelly For a limited time only 18:08, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oh wait... when did that happen? Ah well. Sorry. Shelly For a limited time only 18:09, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Kate confirmed it on her blog. I checked the link, and saw it with my own eyes. This is cute, but kill the waste and darken the shading.    ℓightning      18:11, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

This is declined however, as Atelda reserved it and you did not. Shelly For a limited time only 18:17, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blackstar (Alt. L) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Blackstar.leader.alt2.png]]Comments? -ScarletwindLisanna 04:31, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Should he really get an alt for this? It's just leaving out his black paws. It'd be like leaving out tabby stripes, which we aren't doing, so would he really get one? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 05:20, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree; I don't think he should get one, nor should it be in his trivia. Saying "a big white tom" and "a big white tom with black paws" is the same thing; however, the former saves time. oblivionAudience? 05:21, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

About the tabby thing Pale, did'nt Whispering Breeze get one for being described with them?Sky..... Just...dust and echoes 05:28, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

What she means is if a tabby was described as solid. For example, Hawkfrost was described as a dark brown tom in all of the allegiances. He got no alternate; the Erins were just cutting down on the description. Alternates should only be made for a major change. oblivionAudience? 05:30, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Sorry, Scarlet. llwildheartl08:20 Sun Dec 4

Stonefur Alt. (D) ~ Declined Edit

[[File:Stonefur.deputy.alt.png]] I really hate the shading and the ear pink. >_< Comments? Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 20:33, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading and the ear pink tons. Make the ear pink smaller and center it as well.    ℓightning      20:38, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I knew that would happen. But I still dont like it and I blured over it a bunch... Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 22:12, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink color less neon/bright. Dull it. SquirrelFlame29 Defying the Darkness 22:32, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I tryed to dullen it but I ended up darkening it....I had now idea how do dull it to be truthful... Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 22:44, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Give the eye some depth, not just one flat color. Blur the shading more, add some between the foreleg and haunch, and have less on the tail. Ivyheart =P 22:46, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink. Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 22:57, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I thought the shading was funny. And I did my best with the depth. Looks better now! Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 23:02, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the earpink. llwildheartl23:03 Sat Nov 5

Blur the shading a lot and thicken it. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 23:42, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

The shading needs major blurring, fix that.  Stoneclaw    00:07, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed the heading for you. Anyway, redo the shading so it conforms to the contours of his body and add depth to his eye, maybe change the color to match [1] that image, which is where the alt came from. You might want to tone down you highlights, too. Shelly For a limited time only 01:00, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I re-did the hole thing and I added the depth as much as I could. Comments? Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 01:43, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Shading still needs to be blurred a lot.    ℓightning      03:06, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured and blured but it doesn't look to different. Sorry you guys... Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 03:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I believe this needs to be renamed Stonefur.deputy.alt.png Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 03:48, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Want a really useful tip for blurring the shading so it looks natural? Take your blur tool, set it on "60", then blur the edges of the shading with a small brush, then get a slightly larger brush, use the blur tool, set it on "100", then blur where you smudged. You may have to do it more than once, but once it looks natural, then you're good to go! Iveh Yo! 05:13, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Dull the earpink, and make it more triangular. Grell No question at all! 13:17, November 6, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded @Twilightheart I tryed but it just ended up with spaces and @ Shadewing I don't really know how to dullen the ear pink but...well I tryed! Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 16:22, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

I can help you if you want.  Stoneclaw    16:27, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

What with, Stoneclaw? Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 18:38, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

You don't know how to dull earpink? You just.. darken it.. Perhaps smudge the shading and then blur the smudges a lot. I do that sometimes. --SplookMavinotp♥ 19:51, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I made the shading worse...if possible... Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 20:19, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Do you need help with the shading? --SnowyXPerry = Serry! 22:16, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Yes plesae... Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 23:39, November 6, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I redid the shading for you and blurred the earpink. --SnowyXPerry = Serry! 00:00, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Much better. Awesome, Snowwy. ^^ Shelly For a limited time only 02:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Just blur the shading on his neck. --Cinder Real or Not Real?


Reuploaded Thanks for the help Snow.. And I used Ivystripe's thing. THanks for the help everyone! --Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 15:37, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the tail. --SplookMavinotp♥ 00:11, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I also darken it a touch. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 00:40, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a bit.    ℓightning      02:57, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Other than the shading that needs to be blurred, this looks really great. :) Thistle. 04:32, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks. I actually blured it a lot to be sure. :) Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 22:39, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

) Better. The shading on the tail just looks to dark, can you fix that? If not, I think it's okay. ^.^ Thistle. 23:00, November 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now that I look at it I know see that you are right. *dips head* Thank you for your comment. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 01:23, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful, Sandstorm, dull the earpink.  Stoneclaw    03:16, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thank you. And changes not showing. Made very nice progress over the few days! I really love this now! Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 03:29, November 10, 2011 (UTC)

Can you blur the chest shading? Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 01:02, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blured everything just to be sure. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 01:37, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Shading still needs to be blurred more.    ℓightning      18:36, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Especially around the shoulder and neck. ;) Thistle. 21:23, November 11, 2011 (UTC)

Did you smudge the shading on the neck.....? Smooth out the shading by blurring it. --SnowyXPerry = Serry! 12:12, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

I am gonna work on this soon but Snowwy I didn't touch it other than blurring it... Why Snowwy? Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 20:57, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe because it looks smudged :P Blur it out nevertheless when you get to work on this. --SplookMavinotp♥ 21:03, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I blurred a lot. The changes aren't showing. Other then the shading I think this is good! Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 16:54, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Could you blur the shoulder shading a tad? --Leafstrike-- 02:28, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded You say blur, then I shall BLUR! Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 02:56, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Still need to be blurred more. You can see where the shading and the highlights (if you use them, if not, than the normal pelt color), meet. Try and blend it.    ℓightning      18:39, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink looks like a blob. Please make it more triangular. --Cinder Real or Not Real?


I think the earpink looks okay. There's lot of chararts with earpinks like that. Grell No question at all! 20:12, November 14, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I didn't touch the ear pink. The changes aren't showing >_< Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 21:48, November 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink and make it fit into the ear more. Blur the shading/highlights and smooth them out considerably. llwildheartl00:34 Tue Nov 15

Reuploaded I really don't get what's up with the shading. I blured it soo much! >_< Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 22:59, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

You can always use Gaussian Blur to blur the shading. Theres a Gaussian Blur on Pixlr, I think. SnowyXPerry = Serry! 23:20, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

...What? But I used Ivystripe's thing and it normally works! Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 23:24, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Make the highlights bigger. Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 00:01, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I also blured it a lot. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 02:40, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Blur 'em more. Also, this needs to be named Stonefur.deputy.alt.png.    ℓightning      03:26, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

The shading on the neck looks uneven, can you smoot it out do it doesn't look so bumpy? :) Thistle. 03:46, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I renamed it. Can somebody help with the shading? I can't blur it anymore! Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 23:21, November 16, 2011 (UTC)

What program do you use? It should be easy enough to do it yourself. Smudge it and blur it. Also right now the shading doesn't make much sense. Look at this tutorial image and follow one of the warrior shading examples. I'd suggest the first one, as it seems the closest to what you have right now. llwildheartl00:23 Thu Nov 17

I use pixlr. I already smudged it becuase somebody else told me too. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 01:29, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

It still needs to be changed a lot. It really doesn't make much sense as it is right now. llwildheartl01:32 Thu Nov 17

Well I did my best... But it doesn't make sense? It's a charart... Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 01:59, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah. Shading needs to make a charart look 3D and right now yours isn't serving that purpose. It doesn't look like you changed anything. Did you reupload? llwildheartl02:03 Thu Nov 17

Lighten the shading then blur like it could save your life XD MoonlightBeauty of the sea! 18:51, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

I would say thin out the neck shading. Grell No question at all! 20:32, November 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I just re-did the whole thing. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 23:05, November 17, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful, perhaps add a bit of shading on the tail. :3 Atelda 00:24, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There was already shading there so I darkened it. Thank you for your praise Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 01:51, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

I think you use highlights... right? Just guessing. If you do, can you brighten the highlight on the haunch to match the other highlighted spots? Ivyheart =P 01:58, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Very nice. Make the tail lighter, and darken the shading on it. Right now it looks all shading. --SplookMavinotp♥ 02:01, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Yes, I use highlights. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 02:38, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink more of a triangle, 'cause right now, it seems like a blob with a small point. xD    ℓightning      07:57, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I am soo glad I re-did this! Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD!

Much better. Darken the feet and add a light area to the tail so it looks more dimensional. Make the earpink smaller and dodge it a bit. llwildheartl23:51 Fri Nov 18

Reuploaded I just made the area on the tail lighter because it was already there. I leik this :3 Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 00:29, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Did it specify which cat in the picture was him? I always though the front one (with amber eyes) was Graypool and the back one was Stonefur. If that was the case, this would need to be darkened and the eye color would need to be changed. How do we decide which cat's which in these cases? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 02:47, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm well I don't know. Leads? Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 17:36, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

I have the book right in front of me. I do believe Stonefur is the cat furthest to the right, however, it doesn't directly state it. If I'm correct, this needs to actually be lightened. Throughout the book, on the pages where there are groups of cats, the order of the wording at the bottom of the page with the picture is usually the order of the cats in the picture themselves. We don't know this for sure, though. In fact, this shouldn't even be up if we don't know for sure which cat is which.    ℓightning      18:04, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

O.O whhhaaaat? Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 18:13, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Talon had an alt and Sharpclaw received one too assuming that the order of wording is the same as that in the pictures. Concerning the picture, there seems to be more of a highlight on the fore paw nearest us rather than on the tail. Nice job Atelda 18:26, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

So before and if I reupload, is this declined? Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 18:41, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Define and darken the shading and blur the highlights. Iciloo 23:32, November 19, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded The highlight is on the tail and the paw. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 02:21, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it doesn't really make sense for the highlight to be on the paw. Darken it to match the rest of the leg, and darken the hind paw that definitely should be in shadow. llwildheartl05:01 Sun Nov 20

Reuploaded I made it worse >_< Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 15:55, November 20, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink triangular. Sweetflower22:52 Sun Nov 20

Umm it is. That's the best I could make it without it looking creepy. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 00:06, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Looking creepy? I don't think earpink CAN look creepy. And it still needs to be a bit more even and triangular. It's a bit lopsided right now. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 04:29, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, the top of the earpink is curved downward. And the shading on the tail looks weird to me. I'd shade it darker on the bottom, or at least at that weird spot where it's shadow and then really light.

Forgot to sign. ~Breezewhisker~ 05:12, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the ear pink back into the ear, and the shading still needs to be blurred.    ℓightning      07:46, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Is it getting better? Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 00:32, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

It is getting better ^^ There is a dark spot on his tail where it looks like the shading leaked. Get rid of that and I think it'll be ready for CBA. Iveh Yo! 02:00, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

And blur the haunch highlight, I can see it layer out. --SplookMavinotp♥ 02:03, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded :D Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 02:06, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me! CBA? Iveh Yo! 02:59, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

D: I'm sorry to interrupt CBA, but the shadings blotchy on the leg nearest us. I'm sure this'll be CBAed in right after though! It looks wonderful. Atelda 02:19, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There's nothing wrong with it.....:_: Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 02:25, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

I saw it as well. If nothing was wrong, she wouldn't have commented. I can still see a small, dark blotch. --SplookMavinotp♥ 02:31, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I triple checked an now it's gone. Changes aren't showing. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 02:35, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

You still need to blur the shading a bit. Then it should be ready for CBA.    ℓightning      03:16, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Center the ear-pink and make sure it's constant; it looks a bit smudgy -ScarletwindLisanna 21:24, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I didn't touch the ear pink too much though. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 21:57, November 23, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the highlights more WildfireHazelxThorn! 00:42, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear pink a tad bit more pink.    ℓightning      02:20, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded

Don't forget to sign, Sandstorm! Blur the earpink and make it smaller. llwildheartl02:19 Sun Nov 27

Reuploaded I made it worse Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 21:32, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blur all the shading, then blur and pinken the earpink. Leopardclaw Box as blue as blue... 21:18, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Also make the earpink a tiny more triangular. Firestar!Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :) 21:27, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Oh my....I hate this... Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 21:55, November 28, 2011 (UTC)


Did'ya use highlights? If you did, blur 'em. Also, darken the shading just the slightest.    ℓightning      22:06, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded This looks horrible! And yes I use Highlights. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 23:17, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink needs to be blurred and fit into the ear and the shading/highlights need to be blurred majorly. llwildheartl23:36 Mon Nov 28

Reuploaded I just re-did most of the shading. Changes not showing. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 00:03, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Looking good, Sandstorm. Blur the shading on the front paw a bit, please. Grell No question at all! 21:26, November 29, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Reuploaded I also fixed some blured lineart. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 21:33, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

CBA? Iveh Yo! 21:06, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but can you blur where the shading on the front leg where it meets with the unshaded parts? Mistypebble 22:13, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

You forgot to change the heading, Misty. :3 Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 22:18, November 30, 2011 (UTC)

Blargh. I'm still thinking like an apprentice.. xD Mistypebble 00:53, December 1, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Now it's the exact same color as the fur around it. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 14:17, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

The shading still needs to be blurred a lot, and blended with the highlights. The ear pink should be centered within the ear, since some of it leaks down on to the shoulder.    ℓightning      00:54, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I can't blur the highlights much more. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 04:02, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken and blur the shading, and center the earpink. llwildheartl04:05 Sat Dec 3

Reuploaded This looks horrible! Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 04:15, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Smooth out the highlight near the shoulder, it's a bit too bright. SplookMavinotp♥ 15:10, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 17:51, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink still looks like a lopsided triangle.    ℓightning      19:22, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Made it worse >_> Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 19:30, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading more. llwildheartl08:01 Sun Dec 4

Longest thing on here.... Uh.... Blur the shading. I hate repeating things.... ~Regifloat222Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 17:21, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded I fixed some blured lineart and some waste. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 18:27, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sand, you had a month to finish the image, but you didn't. This is declined. Any user who does not have a main project and would like to work on this, it's fair game.    ℓightning      04:04, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

I've got it. If nobody minds. ;) I'll re-upload in a moment. Thistle. 04:06, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Wonderful. I'll archive this discussion, and you can start a new one.    ℓightning      04:08, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Mottlepaw (Ki) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Mottlepaw.kit.png]]If Breezepelt gets one, so does Mottlepaw. Yes, I know the pattern doesn't really match, but his apprentice charart will have to be redone anyway. Comments? -ScarletwindLisanna 19:20, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly when was Mottlepaw mentioned as a kit? I thought we agreed that we wouldn't give every cat a kit charart just because they must have been a kit at some point. Shelly For a limited time only 19:23, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

The patches look almost brown to me, make them more black Iveh Yo! 19:24, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

@Shelly, he is Poppycloud's son and she got a queen charart, just like Nightcloud. If Breezepelt is going to get a kit charart, then so will he. -ScarletwindLisanna 19:27, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Breezepelt got a kit charart because he was mentioned as a kit in After Sunset:We need to talk. I don't think Mottlepaw gets a kit charart, as he was never mentioned as a kit. Only an apprentice. Shelly For a limited time only 19:29, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

If Mottlepaw gets one, then any cat who ever lived would get one, as they were all kits at one point. Changing heading to declined; if any leads disagree, feel free to voice your opinion. oblivionAudience? 22:26, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

He wasn't actually seen and/or mentioned, so no, he wouldn't get one. Breezepelt gets one because he was actually mentioned in We Need To Talk. They're two totally different cases.    ℓightning      04:10, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. Shelly For a limited time only 04:25, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Adderfang (Alt. W) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Adderfang.warrior.alt.png]] Comments? WildfireMistystar's Omen! 20:25, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Erm, he's already a brown tabby. Just because they elaborated to call him dark doesn't mean they made a mistake. Shelly For a limited time only 20:29, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Um... I asked on the talk page and someone, I think it was Ivystripe, said they were different WildfireMistystar's Omen! 20:49, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, on the discussion page Wildfire asked if there was a majority difference between dark brown and just brown, and Ivystripe said yes. Sorry to barge in, I just felt the need to randomly put that in. Thistle. 22:13, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think this is a big enough difference. Ivystripe is a senior warrior, but so are myself and Shelly. If more leads think he should get one, then he will. In the meantime, though, it's two to one. oblivionAudience? 22:28, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

A dark tabby is still a tabby, as is a mottled tabby. This isn't really a difference, as Shelly already said, just justifying the shade of brown he was. If anything, his current chararts can just be tweaked to dark brown, since he wasn't mentioned as, say, a pale brown tabby or anything. -ScarletwindLisanna 22:31, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Just take the burn tool over the other images and make them darker. Sorry, Wild. =(    ℓightning      22:33, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay I understand, if you need to decline this that's cool, but um... how come Bluestar gets all of her alts? WildfireMistystar's Omen! 22:53, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Because she has different colors/shades. SilverThe Glee Project 23:14, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Not really because gray and blue-gray are the same, aren't they? WildfireMistystar's Omen! 23:19, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

No...they are completely different colors. Blue-gray is more blue. SilverThe Glee Project 23:52, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I wasn't sure which cat you meant. My biggest problem is what necessitates an alt and what is just added to the description, such as Spottedleaf with her two page description? Actually, I might make a forum about thisIveh Yo! 00:25, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

A forum isn't necessary. Three senior warriors, as well as the deputy, have said this alternate isn't necessary. I'm changing the heading to declined. oblivionAudience? 00:31, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

>.> I meant in general Iveh Yo! 04:14, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, a forum is a good idea, Ivy. We could finally clear up what deserves an alt and what doesn't. Go for it.    ℓightning      04:15, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. Eesh, drama. Shelly For a limited time only 14:13, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Silverstream (Alt.W) ~ Declined Edit

[[File:Silverstream.warrior.alt3.png]]I talked this through with Atelda, and we both agreed she should get one, although we wern't really sure if the dark blue-gray queen in her character pixles were for the COTC mistake, since it didn't match the color, but if that turned out to not be the case and the dark blue gray queen WAS for COTC, we figured this warrior version should still be allowed, because when she was mistakenly described with the stripe on her head, she got one for a warrior and a queen and it was the same cite/reference/page what not I believe. Thistle. 22:53, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

The blue-gray queen was from COTC, and she was a queen because that was the last rank she was seen in and she already dead then. Cats are shown with the last rank they held when they were alive when they die on the Wiki. She got a warrior and a queen for the dark stripe on her head because she was seen with a dark stripe on her head in the Graystripe Manga, when she was already dead as a queen and in the manga in Crookedstar's Promise, because she had been a warrior then. I don' think that she'd get a warrior alt. for her blue-gray description. I'm going to decline this, but if others have opinions, let them be heard. -ScarletwindLisanna 23:01, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Boulder did, did he not? Thistle. 23:04, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to point out. -ScarletwindLisanna 23:05, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I realized that after I posted. What I meant to say was, from what you said at the end, " I don' think that she'd get a warrior alt. for her blue-gray description." I have to disagree. Boulder is Silver gray, but he got an alt for being blue-gray in COTC, so why is Silverstream any different at all? Thistle. 23:11, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Thistle has made a good piont. I too don't see why Blouder gets one and Sliverstream doesn't. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 23:15, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly. It wouldn't be fair to Thistle if you declined this because others got an alt. for the same exact purpose. --Cinder Real or Not Real?

23:21, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

When COTC came out, Boulder was an elder and he got a blue-gray alt for it. As for Silverstream, she did get an alt. as did Tawnypelt for her tortie and white description. -ScarletwindLisanna 23:28, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

You've got me. Unless somehow others have opinions? Thistle. 23:58, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry Thistle, this is still really nice! :) -ScarletwindLisanna 00:01, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. Sorry, Thistly, it's really pretty! Shelly For a limited time only 14:15, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Sandypaw (KP) ~ Declined Edit

[[File:Sandypaw.kittypet.png]]O.O i'm not sure I like how this turned out...Bluefeather Jingle all the way! 17:42, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

We do not know Sandypaw's gender. Declined. Shelly For a limited time only 17:46, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

But if Honeypaw got one shouldn't Sandypaw get one too? Bluefeather Jingle all the way! 17:50, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

We can't give him/her a charart until their gender is confirmed. Honeypaw's was confirmed. Sandypaw's hasn't been. Shelly For a limited time only 17:52, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'm very sorry if i'm getting annoying but when was Honeypaw's confirmed? Bluefeather Jingle all the way! 17:54, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Goosefeather (E) ~ WithdrawnEdit

[[File:Goosefeather.elder.png]] Well... that was difficult. Well, he needed to match his MC charart, but I left the mottles alone as it's likely his fur faded as he aged. OA was Flamingomom3. Comments? Shelly For a limited time only 17:49, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Withdrawn to persue a different image. Shelly For a limited time only 04:47, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Goldenflower (Alt. Q) ~ DeclinedEdit

[[File:Goldenflower.altQ.png]] I was looking around, and realized Goldenflower's been described as amber, so I reserved it and made an alt for her. It's my first charart, though...Dazzy 09:31, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

If I remember right, someone tried this and it was declined. Sky..... Just...dust and echoes 10:03, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm....really? Dazzy 10:43, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, this was put up before and declined because amber is pretty much a synonym of pale ginger. I'm declining this, but if anybody disagrees, feel free to post your opinion. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 14:55, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving Iveh Yo! 17:02, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Violet (KP) - Withdrawn Edit

[[File:Violet.kittypet.png]] Made it lighter. OA was Nightfall101. Comments? Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 17:43, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Make 'er even lighter. llwildheartl23:33 Sat Dec 3

Tone down the hightlights a bit. ~DJCandyFun~ I do enjoy fun...8D23:35, Sat, Dec, 3, 2011

Re-Uploaded - Wait for changes to show - It was on the list to make lighter, so, sorry, but I'm not touching the highlights. Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 23:38, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading some, though. The colour is perfect, but the shading needs to be darker. llwildheartl23:40 Sat Dec 3

Re-Uploaded Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 23:53, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Is it just me or is she starting to look kinda gray? llwildheartl08:26 Sun Dec 4

It's not just you, she does look a little gray. :3 Can you define the earpink? Ivyheart =P 15:59, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 02:48, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Could you redden the earpink a bit? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 19:50, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded - ^^ Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 02:58, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Do you use layers? If so, add a layer of light shading and lower the opacity so it doesn't make it gray again when you darken the shading like I'm asking you to right now XD llwildheartl02:59 Tue Dec 6

Re-Uploaded - Yep, I use layers. Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 03:10, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

I know that earpink is like nearly impossible on this color, but could you make it a bit less purple? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 16:14, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Am I aloud to withdraw this? :3 Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 03:01, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Of course, Twi. -ScarletwindLisanna 04:01, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Stormtail (W) - Withdrawn Edit

[[file:Stormtail.warrior.png]] Yahooooo, another solid! Shading tweak, OA=Echomist and then Sandy tweaked it -Bloo!yo

04:58, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Redden the earpink and maybe blur the haunch shading. Sky..... Just...dust and echoes 10:07, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Haha!Too bad, cuz I'm withdrawing this for the new apprentice blanks BD -Bloo!yo

00:48, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Understandable. Archiving. Iveh Yo! 00:51, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Rockshade (W) ~WithdrawnEdit

[[File:Rockshade_warrior.png]]

Okay, before y'all lose your minds, Oblivion gave me premission to de ro him, becuase everytime i re-did him, he looked like barf, and if i lightend his color, THAT color would become his lineart color, and it annoyed me, so, i asked to re-do him, and, got this, i know he looks dark-gray, but this is version one of him, and if anyone wants to see version two, just comment, and i'll up load version two. Now then, Comments? (PLEASE ask for version two, i hate this one >.>) Maple♥poolMischief brewing 02:12, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, OA was TottalyTawnypelt, and was then taken over by Frostheart <3, and the highlights and shading was blotchy, and he needed a small, stupmy tail. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 02:21, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, i went with version number two, 'cause, i hated how the first one looked >.> I like this one, MUCH better....so.....please comment. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 02:36, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Blur that shading tons. Thicken it as well. oblivionAudience? 02:38, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Yay, a comment! Reuploaded, comments? Maple♥poolMischief brewing 02:52, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Desaturate the shading on the back, make the highlight smaller, and smooth out the shading; it looks really streaky and botchy. -ScarletwindLisanna 04:05, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

Mind lightening the whole image? It's hard to tell which from which. And spread out the shading, along with smoothing it as Scarlet said above me. SplookMavinotp♥ 23:06, December 2, 2011 (UTC)

'Kay, give me a few mins, sorry i wans't on yesterday, I had to babysit Maple♥poolMischief brewing 18:50, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

'Kay, Reuploaded-I think his highlights look blotchy now that i made them smaller.....but....i'll blur them into oblivion before i upload them again. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 19:05, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploading -I blurred the shading and highlights, and fixed some blurred lineart, and added depth to the eye out of bordem....Maple♥poolMischief brewing 22:30, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

This is still very blotchy. Blur the shading on 100% with a big brush, it usually helps. If you use layers, gaussian blur the heck outta this puppy Iveh Yo! 22:38, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say redo the shading. Use a tutorial if you need help. Make him lighter as well. oblivionAudience? 23:08, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

'Kay, i'll see what i can do. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 23:15, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded-I just re-did the image. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 23:28, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading. SnowyXPerry = Serry! 23:51, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Maple♥poolMischief brewing 23:56, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

Blur it more. oblivionAudience? 01:52, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

I can't blur it anymore, it has NO effect. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 02:17, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

If you can't blur it more, I suggest withdrawing this image, then. I'm not saying you couldn't do it, but this shading isn't good enough to be approved. You could try and redo it, but I doubt that it would make a difference. Try Gaussian Blur 10 if you use GIMP. oblivionAudience? 02:33, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

If you want, I could help you blur the shading. --Leafstrike-- 04:40, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

If Maple isn't going to blur this, you could probably just take over, Moonleaf. llwildheartl08:21 Sun Dec 4

  • sighs* Look, moon, if you can help me blur it, great. If not, i'll re-do it, but i can't blur it anymore. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 23:54, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Here you go. :). I had to re-do the shading. --Leafstrike-- 00:33, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Define shading and highlights. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 00:35, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Oh, soory, thought you took over ^^; Thanks, but i liked him better with blue eyes, so i'll change that back, if you dont mind. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 00:38, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

I thought he was more realistic with amber eyes, since pure black cats can't have blue eyes, but you're welcome to do that. ^^ --Leafstrike--

Correction: I found out they can have blue eyes. --Leafstrike-- 00:46, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

REuploaded-I defined his highlights, left the shading, as it was fine, and gave him blue eyes, 'cause blue ish my fave color, and his eye color isnt stated. So, comments (Moon, i owe you one :) ) Maple♥poolMischief brewing 00:52, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading and blur it more, and redden the earpink. Honestly, I liked amber better, but I guess it IS the artist's choice... ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 01:12, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten him so the shading is noticeable. Also, the eye colour has to match his kit. oblivionAudience? 01:18, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Rename is it Rockshade.warrior.png as well. oblivionAudience? 01:19, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

His kit needs to be tweaked, his shading and highlights.....*Shudders* That needs to be fixed. amd his kit's tail needs to be shorter, i'll do his kit image if need be. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 01:23, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Just leave his eyes amber. Blue eyes are much more uncommon than amber. If it's not broken, don't fix it. oblivionAudience? 01:33, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Still say his kit image needs tweaking, but, okay, i'll make his eyes amber, i'll fix his eyes in a sec. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 01:36, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Pffffttttt, fail, i thought i uploaded, but never did big time fail xD ANYWHO, Reuploaded, comments? Maple♥poolMischief brewing 01:11, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading a bunch and darken it. llwildheartl01:48 Wed Dec 7

Hey guys, I don't wanna do rockshade....i mean, i don't like him that much, anymore, soo....oi'm withdrawning him.....i didn't really like him that uch anyway....i felt like i wasted my time on him, y'a know? And I hate wasting my time.....so....yeah....sorry....Maple♥poolMischief brewing 03:03, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Spottedpelt (A) ~ Declined Edit

[[File:Spottedpelt.apprentice.png]]If Rosepetal and Toadstep have one, why can't Spottedpelt? :D Anyway, this took..a lot....of tries. And I still don't like it. It's going to need a ton of work. xD (I did use highlights, and right now the opacity sets at 20.8) :3 Thistle. 03:28, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Spottedpelt was never mentioned as an apprentice. Sorry, declined. Shelly For a limited time only 03:35, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Stonefur (Alt. D) ~ DeclinedEdit

[[File:Stonefur.deputy.alt.png]]'bout time the changes start showing. o_e MoonlightBeauty of the sea! 14:34, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Please lighten it back to the shade Thistleberry had it at, as that shade matched the one from the image this is based on. Shelly For a limited time only 14:36, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

REUPLOADED okay, I redid it. I couldn't really fix it if I used layers on pixlr with it so I just used the burn tool :) MoonlightBeauty of the sea! 14:47, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Awesome. Now edit the shading to conform to the body's masses and not a straight line. Shelly For a limited time only 14:48, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Uh... Loudslpash. Stonefur already has an alternate deputy version for his light gray description in COTC. Why it's not on his page is a mystery to me. But it has been approved. This is declined. -ScarletwindLisanna 16:28, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, that was my bad. I was doing like a million things at once when I approved that, I must have forgotten to add it to his page. :P /fail ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 17:31, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Billystorm (Alt. W) ~ DeclinedEdit

[[File:Billystorm.altW.png]] Billystorm, as he appears in the manga at the end of SkyClan's Destiny - without stripes, just a solid color and a white underside. Comments? Dazzy 13:07, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the earpink, define the shading, and blur where the white meets the grey. Nice job, Dazzlewing. Atelda 13:38, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Billystorm appears on the cover of Beyond the Code as ginger. However, I do not think this warrents an alt as he matches his description from the books. We only put stripes on the gingers to be genetically correct, being shown withou t them is not an error in this case. I'm declining this for now, should anyone else disagree feel free to state your case. Shelly For a limited time only 14:10, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

As other leads have agreed in discussion on the talk page, I am archiving this. Shelly For a limited time only 18:48, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Gorsepaw (A) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Gorsepaw.apprentice.png]]Hmm I dont like him too much, I think that patches are...too light, and i dont like shadings too LeafyAbsolute maniac,17:25,December 8,2011

Sorry Leaf, we aren't doing the old apprentices yet. I'm debating this on the talk page, however, if you'd like to join. Unfortunately, I have to decline this for now. Shelly For a limited time only 17:30, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry i have some problems with pages, I havent saw it LeafyAbsolute maniac,17:41,December 8,2011

It's right here if you want to participate in the discussion. Shelly For a limited time only 17:50, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Birchfall (Alt A.) ~ WithdrawnEdit

[[File:Birchfall.apprentice.alt.png]] Okay...maaaybe one more... Comments?    ℓightning      17:42, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Never mind. I think I found a different one I wanted to do.    ℓightning      20:18, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Plumwillow (KP) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Plumwillow_KP.png]] Ok i tried please don't say it sucks. Comments?? Dewstar PEACE 20:54, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Here it goes:

  • Remove the white patches.
  • Add shading.
  • Make the blank female.
  • Add a white highlight to the eye.
  • I de-thumbed it for you, next time don't put images in a thumbnail.
  • Rename this Plumwillow.kittypet.png.

--Leafstrike-- 20:59, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Also, the heading should say "For Approval" (I tweaked that), and make the nose grey. --Leafstrike-- 21:00, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry...I'm not trying to be mean, but you're probably going to have to redo this. A lot of your lineart is blurred, the patches would take a while to take out, and I just think it'd be easier this way. May I ask what program you use? I can help explain how to do the shadingIveh Yo! 21:35, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

This might sound mean but it needs to be said. If you do not know how to make chararts you should not take on this project until you do. Please practice making chararts on your own time and then take on a charart here. Shelly For a limited time only 21:42, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

People i have been practising by myself for hours more then 6 everyday i can't deal with it and it was a girl blank Dewstar PEACE 23:28, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

If that's the female blank, you seem to have edited it, because the eyelashes aren't there. Dewstar, it takes more then just a few day's practice before you can become a good artist. I saw what you said before you edited your message. Don't whine just because you got told to practice more.    ℓightning      23:31, December 9, 2011 (UTC

By the way i was never a good artist ok got that i accidently coloured over the eyelashes. :'( Dewstar PEACE 23:42, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

If you don't think you're a good artist why on Earth would you join an art project? It makes no sense. This project is not glamorous or here for fun or for training artists, it's here to make chararts. Period. Don't whine at us for pointing out that you need to practice more before trying to do a charart for the website. Shelly For a limited time only 23:46, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Don't give up yet here I'll help, let me make a video first WildfireMistystar's Omen! 23:57, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, Dew, it's okay. I'd say withdraw this now, and I'll help you make it perfect. Keep your reservation until you think the image is perfect. What do you think? llwildheartl00:20 Sat Dec 10

I think we should give dew a week to attempt to improve. If you haven't all ready done so, apply for the mentor program for advice. Or, you could always ask a warrior on the chat. ~Regifloat222Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 00:23, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd say withdraw this for now. You can keep your reservation. There's nothing wrong with waiting a little bit to post to get your image better. And don't get discouraged, everyone had a first charart, and most of ours were probably horrible at first, so don't worry. However that doesn't mean it doesn't need to be fixed, so just learn from your mentor, and try again later. :) Darn edit conflicts. >.> ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 00:28, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Regi, she does have a mentor: me. XD And I'm working on helping her now, but she hasn't yet decided if she's going to withdraw it until she can make it better. llwildheartl01:02 Sat Dec 10

Well this should be declined. She can keep the reservation and repost after she has worked with you a bit more and has a basica understanding of how to do the art required for the project. -ſceheartBlah blah 01:48, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Poppyfrost (Ki) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Poppyfrost.kit.png]]Original Artist was Maplefern; patches needed to be dappled. Comments? Elorisa 17:14, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Make the patches less smudged and make the dapples more like the ones on her other images. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 18:10, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Aww! So cute! Make <----- this ear pink more triangular. Actually, make 'em both. And one is lighter/darker than the other ear-pink. Sweetflower22:56 Sun Dec 4

Blur the patches. Mistystar Trust the Fire Within... 23:10, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Get rid of the waste around her left and back paws. Purplemoon We wish you a Perry Christmas... 21:20, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

You still working on this Elo? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 15:17, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. llwildheartl23:05 Sat Dec 10

Beetlewhisker (Ki) ~ WithdrawnEdit

[[File:Beetlewhisker.kit.png]] OA was Sandstar and it needed to be longhaired. Specklestream Let it Snow! 17:42, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

define the shading on the white and smudge the stripes along the edges of the patch their in -Bloo!yo

20:01, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes. Mistypebble 20:05, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Both ears need to be brown, not onl one, if you notice on his warrior Iveh Yo! 20:28, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the stripes, please Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 21:57, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Featherwillow, don't repeat things that have already been said. Smudge the paw on <--- that side a little bit. Darken the shading just a touch.Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 22:02, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Specklestream Let it Snow! 19:04, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Saturate the brown and darken the markings. llwildheartl20:08 Tue Dec 6

Darken the stripes -Bloo!yo

23:02, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

Brighten the earpink. Sky..... Just...dust and echoes 00:13, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading on the white a bit. SplookMavinotp♥ 20:42, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this...? llwildheartl01:17 Sat Dec 10

I'm going to have to withdraw this. I'm too ill to work on anything at the moment. Specklestream Let it Snow! 15:16, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. llwildheartl23:07 Sat Dec 10

Softwing (A) ~ Withdrawn Edit

[[File:Softwing.apprentice.png]]First apprentice! :D Comments? ~Breezewhisker~ 22:42, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Pretty! Can you lighten the shading on her back paw, it looks gray-ish. And define the shadin og the back. Sweetflower22:51 Thu Dec 8

Where on the back? XD ~Breezewhisker~ 22:52, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

  • Shading *on

On the top of the back. (I hope that makes sense!)~

Reuploaded. Better? ~Breezewhisker~ 00:45, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Don't forget to sign! ;) Darken the earpink. --SnowyXPerry = Serry! 00:01, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't find anything wrong with the earpink. Unless it absolutely ruins the image, I don't see why I need to edit it a dozen times. ~Breezewhisker~ 00:45, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

The earpink needs to be taken off the warrior and then you never have to change it again. -ſceheartBlah blah 00:50, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I will. But I'll still have a bunch of comments telling me I didn't blur it correctly or whatever. Honestly, I don't see why the earpink is such a big deal. ~Breezewhisker~ 01:19, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the stripes on the patch on her forehead. -ScarletwindLisanna 00:04, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. ~Breezewhisker~ 04:59, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Make the patch on the side of her head go over her eye like on the warrior image and darken the shading a tad, then this'll be perfect. :) ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 18:25, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

The shading looks really light to me Iveh Yo! 20:12, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Add shading to the tail and the back hindquarters. Sweetflower13:05 Sun Dec 11

I'm sorry, guys. But I have neither the time nor the motivation to work on this. Can I just withdraw it and post it later, when I do? Right now, I'm just taking up space. ^^; ~Breezewhisker~ 20:26, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah sure Iveh Yo! 22:25, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Alright then. ~Breezewhisker~ 02:20, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. oblivionAudience? 03:18, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Smoky (Lo) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Smoky.loner.png]] OA was Bramble, and he needed a torn ear. Should I make him mangy as well? oblivionAudience? 03:30, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

We don't have confirmation that that cat was Smoky. He can't get those details added to his charart until we do. Shelly For a limited time only 03:35, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Declining, then. llwildheartl06:33 Mon Dec 12

Darkstar (SC) (W) - Declined Edit

[[File:Darkstar_(SC).warrior.png]] There was a discussion on the page. Anways, I'm not quite found of this one. Erm.. comments? SnowyXPerry = Serry! 00:28, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Erm...he doesn't have stripes, he's not a tabby. Durn was kinda hoping to do this XD Iveh Yo! 00:34, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Those aren't stripes... xD SnowyXPerry = Serry! 00:34, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well make it look like t it's not because it looks like it. Also dull the ear pink Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 03:47, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

The ear pink is fine, Sandstorm. Define the shading.    ℓightning      04:03, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded SnowyXPerry = Serry! 13:59, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

There is supposed to be nicks in both ears. Also blur the chest and the tail a little bit more. Luff it. Squishee DONT EAT MY FOOD! 02:06, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Make the tear look more natural. oblivionAudience? 03:14, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

He was never mentioned as a warrior and a decision was never reached in that conversation on the discussion page. Declined unless a different decision is made, but for now we don't make warrior images for every leader just because they must have been a warrior at some point. For all we know Darkstar was some loner that showed up and was instantly made leader because of some prophecy. Shelly For a limited time only 16:25, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. Shelly For a limited time only 03:13, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hollyleaf(A) - DeclinedEdit

[[File: Hollyleaf.apprentice2!!!.png]] Okay, so this is my first Charart! Yay! I am toyally accepting any type or critique...are the eyes wrong? I didn't know what the pixel allignment was for the new apprentice eyes, so I just made it up. Should I blur the earpink more? Should I raise the layer's opacity? Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 00:33, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Please upload it first so we can critique it Iveh Yo! 00:36, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm very sorry, but this is over the limit as the limit is 50. Sorry :( Bluefeather Jingle all the way! 00:37, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Oh you're right. But please, next time, let a lead do it as this is a lead's duty to officially decline it. Iveh Yo! 00:40, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Oh....okay. But....the problem was I tried to upload the thing I made but it did the other appretice one. I think i uploaded someone else's pic for some reason. Can I try again anyway, and when will able able to put it for approval again? Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 00:45, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, for the project, you can upload your image, thats how sometimes it's the only way to nab a spot. Make sure to name it Hollyleaf.apprentice.png exactly like that ^^ Iveh Yo! 00:49, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

You shouldn't actually be doing this. If I remember right, Rainwhisper should be doing this image. You'd have to get her permission first before you post this again. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 01:00, December 13, 2011 (UTC) Nevermind, didn't realize Rain was removed now. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 01:10, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Adderfang-(W) WithdrawnEdit

[[File:Adderfang.warrior.png]]

This was just a simple tweak, really, it was(Even if he IS on the re-do list.) Okay, so I did his deputy, and i felt that i should do his warrior image.....so, i just made him mottled. OA was Honeyfyr, and was then re-done by Frostheart<3 and i just made him mottled, comments? Maple♥poolMischief brewing 21:00, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Make the mottles match the deputy image better. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 22:25, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

pfffft, tell her how to do it, not just tell to match it better xD -Bloo!yo

01:06, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well I would, except I don't know how to do those kind of mottles..... I don't know what you'd have to do to fix them. D: I just know they don't match right now. Maybe add more of them and darken the light ones so they're not so bright? I don't know. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 01:40, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well she should know, since she was the one who made the other image xD -Bloo!yo

01:45, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Lol, yes, yes i know :3 Maple♥poolMischief brewing 22:19, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Maple♥poolMischief brewing 22:51, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but the mottles still don't match.... Make the light mottles less uniform and make the smaller. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 03:28, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Withdrawning. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 03:31, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 15:09, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Snaketail (E) - Tweaked Edit

[[File:Snaketail_(P3).elder.png]]Can someone help me get rid of the waste? :3. It's tweaked, honest xD. Orginal artist was Ashshadow' Neede shading blurred and gray flecks on chin. Elorisa 01:55, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'll hlp you get rid of the waste. One moment please. Iveh Yo! 01:57, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

There's some white parts on the tail, and can you blur the shading a bit more? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 01:58, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded There ya go Elo =3 Iveh Yo! 02:05, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

Hi there, *Was requested to get rid of re-appearing waste* One seccond, then,. ^^ Thistle. 02:06, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

The lineart looks really blurred to me; fix that? llwildheartl02:37 Tue Dec 6

But the lineart isn't blurred; I checked xD. Before I reuploaded. --Elorisa 13:54, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

It sure looks blurred though.... And there's still empty white specks on the tail and back ear. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 16:12, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

The lineart is fine, I think. Blur the highlights. Bluefeather Jingle all the way! 18:15, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

It looks like the lineart is blurred. I don't care that you say it isn't...it looks odd like that. Can you fix it, please?    ℓightning      23:09, December 6, 2011 (UTC)

I don't even know how I'd fix it...>.> --Elorisa 03:01, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Make it not so dark all around the lineart. And if you truly can't do that then maybe you should withdraw this. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 03:57, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

So I'm supposed to withdraw something because I can't do something with it...>.>. I'll just redo it. ;-; --Elorisa 21:37, December 7, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. If you're incapable of doing what is needed, you shouldn't be working on the charart. And do you mean re-tweak it, or redo it completely? Because you still do need permission to redo completely. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 16:36, December 8, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Do not take on chararts that are beyond your ability. You slow down the project in doing so. Sorry if it sounds mean, but it's true. Practice chararts on your own time and then take on harder chararts in the project, but for now stick to what you can do. Shelly For a limited time only 16:44, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded~ I retweaked it :3 --Elorisa 21:22, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, that's a bit better. Make the gray specks smaller and blur them a bit more, and there's some white on the tail. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 21:59, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

You still working on this Elo? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 16:20, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 01:07, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Mossyfoot (A) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Mossyfoot.apprentice.png]] Okay, here's Mossypaw! I did my best to put the white where it would be on the body, and I tried to lighten the pelt a little when I was done, but it wouldn't work. And don't ask about the green eyes, One, it was never specified, and two, I zoomed in really closely on the warrior image and saw that the eye color was a pale green. So..Comments? I hope I get it this time. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 17:28, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what happened with the lineart, it just became weird and blurred all of the sudden. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 17:34, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Well, fix the lineart... xD Ivyheart =P 18:04, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'll try, but I'm not sure how. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 18:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

You could look at the apprentice tutorials. There's a section on how to fix blurred lineart. --Leafstrike-- 18:18, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Fallow already has this reserved. This will be declined. Read over the table carefully next time.    ℓightning      18:34, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Bumblestripe(A) ~WithdawnEdit

[[File:Bumblestripe.apprentice.png]] Yeah this one might take a little while to load too, but I'm not sure. I'm pretty proud of his one. Your thoughts? Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 22:27, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ach, it did it again! How can I fix it so it shows the new one, the one i did, not the old one?! This always happens! Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 22:29, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Also, you need to upload the photo, because it is not showing even in the photo's history. Firestar!Firestar will rule all the Clans forever! :) 22:41, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

-_- I did, but it keeps not working, only with the pics I upload. It comes up with the old apprentice charart, an extemely stretched version of that, or nothing. -____________________- Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 22:53, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

That should work. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 23:00, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Fixed the light nosey. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 23:44, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the highlights. Sweetflower23:58 Wed Dec 14

The stripes should match his warrior... oblivionAudience? 00:08, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded. Can't really find a way to fit in the extra little thingies in his warrior stripes, so this is the best i can do. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 00:42, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't matter that this is the best you can do, it has to match his warrior. Cats don't just magically change their stripe pattern. The stripes should be black as well. oblivionAudience? 01:20, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Redoing the stripes like the warrior image would take a complete redo, since I used layers differently, and i'm...not really up for that right now. =_= Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 01:21, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, I copied the color from the warrior image itself. And, I will eventually redo it, just later. Sorry about that. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 01:23, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

The stripes on the warrior image are clearly black. If you cannot do this, hand it off to someone that can and don't waste time. Shelly For a limited time only 01:24, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'm redoing the entire thing right now. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 01:29, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Also, his eyes look too brown. Make them oranger. oblivionAudience? 01:32, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

AGGGHHH I HATE YOU, FRIKKIN STUPID GIMP!!!! Sorry for that outburst, but the idiot gimp just locked up on me and now i have to start ALL OVER. As you can see I'm fairly frustrated. So, strting again. And, my mom just announced that I have 15 minutes before I have to turn off the computer. >:/ Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 02:21, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

OKAY i completely redid it! It looks better! Yay! Now i have to go. bye! Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 02:48, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re-uploaded Saved a stripe from being weird looking. :3 Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 02:54, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

The pattern is still off (it needs to conform to the body while matching the warrior/kit images) and they need to be black. Shelly For a limited time only 03:02, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

For future reference, please do not comment multiple times on your own image. Its a waste of space and time. -ſceheartBlah blah 04:13, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Tone down the highliht on his haunch. Sweetflower21:44 Thu Dec 15

Hey! You know what I took the exact colors from the warrior thing, and did my best to align the stripes exactly how they were!!! If you want it to be black, I will have to take all the highlights and shading out! I am really annoyed, because I payed A LOT of attention to where each and every stripe went and the EXACT color everything was! And you're STILL talking about how it should be black! IT IS! If you want it too be blacker I would have to put tons of shading on it, or something, because that's exact as it can get! I will toe down the highlight, Sweetflower, but taht's pretty much all I can do. But if you're going to keep complaining about how it's not like the warrior image, when it is, then go ahead and give Bumblepaw to someone else. I don't care. Whatever. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 22:30, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Just to say, the old apprentice charart was off on where the stripes were also, he even had a stripeless belly, but you approved it anyway. Re-uploaded, hope you're happy Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 22:33, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Were not complaining, were critiquing. (or however you spell it). If you don't think you can handle him, than you can withdraw him, but if your willing to put up (you could say), with all of this you should keep it. Sweetflower22:47 Thu Dec 15

Well, do yo want any changes then? Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 22:55, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

First of all, the stripes shouldn't go straight down. They should be on an angle slightly because his body is on an angle. Second of all, this is not black. It doesn't matter what you colour picked, if you look at his warrior image and this one next to each other, it's very clear they're not the same shade. Make the stripes black. oblivionAudience? 23:53, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

So, yes, we want changes. Sweetflower23:59 Thu Dec 15

I withdraw it. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 00:14, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Someone else take over within 24 hours or it gets archived. Shelly For a limited time only 00:16, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. can i reserve aother one now? Don't worry, I'll make sure the cat is either solid colored or dappled. because apparently i suck at tabbies. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 00:19, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Only if you're certain you can complete a charart so it is consistent with the other chararts and without complaining all over the post. Shelly For a limited time only 00:24, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I'll take over. Atelda 00:26, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Guys, I am really sorry I did that. I didn't mean to be so...complainy, it was a little stressful and people found so much wrong with it. I'm sorry and I won't act like this again, and I won't be doing any more striped or tabbies any more, that's for sure. I'm sorry you had to go through me being annoying. Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 00:31, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Starting fresh. Archiving. -ſceheartBlah blah 22:58, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Tigerheart (Alt. A) - WithdrawnEdit

[[File:Tigerheart.apprentice.alt.png]] As stated in Long Shadows, Tigerpaw compared his golden pelt to Lionblaze's. But this is messy...not the best I could've done. (Sorry, the first one I uploaded was using my friend's account that she left logged in) Dazzy 08:32, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

This is over the limit, sorry. Declined for now, but you can repost when there's space. When you do rpost, make it match the warrior alt. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 09:15, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'll remove the decline. ;) I just cleaned up the CBAs. Shelly For a limited time only 14:18, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Redden/pinkin the earpink, tone down and smooth out the highlights, darken the eyes to pick outf from the pelt, color in the nose and darken the shading ;3 SplookMavinotp♥ 20:45, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

He looks yellow, and his stripes look almost green, maybe take the colors from Lionblaze, or Lionheart? Or from his alt Warrior. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 23:17, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah this needs to match his warrior alt. llwildheartl23:22 Tue Dec 13

No, Wild they don't. The artist can do it however they want. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 00:51, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Maple, if he was described the wrong pelt color exactly the same twice, then yes, they must match. Iveh Yo! 00:55, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt inot the ear-pink. Sweetflower01:15 Wed Dec 14

Yeah he looks yellowish and smudge/blur the stripes WildfireMistystar's Omen! 03:46, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Don't let the highlights get the better of the pelt color if that makes sence. ~DJCandyFun~ I do enjoy fun...8D08:06, Wed, Dec, 14, 2011

I think what DJ means is to dull the highlights and blend them with the pelt more. Grell No question at all! 20:19, December 14, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Yes Shadey, thats what I ment, and perhaps redo the stripes on the highlights if needed. ~DJCandyFun~ I do enjoy fun...8D06:13, Thu, Dec, 15, 2011

Also make the background transperant. ~DJCandyFun~ I do enjoy fun...8D06:30, Thu, Dec, 15, 2011

Still working on this Dazzle? ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 06:39, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

No, I withdrew. Someone else pick up on it? Dazzy 23:35, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I've changed the heading for you. Make sure you do, next time. (If you didn't) Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 23:39, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Archiving. llwildheartl23:42 Fri Dec 16

Flametail (A) DeclinedEdit

[[File:Flametail.png|thumb]]Maybe this would work for Flametail? I actually think it turned out a bit icky, so, maybe someone would want to fix it up...

Tigerheart273 14:00, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

This has to be declined. it's over the limit. ~Regifloat222Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 14:22, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Declined. I also advise you to go practice digial art on your own time before trying again. Chararts posted here need to be 90% done, and this is not. Shelly For a limited time only 14:29, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Wetfoot (W) - WithdrawnEdit

[[File:Wetfoot.warrior.png]]

This was just a simple tweak, really it was! xD New tabby style, what do y'all think? Comments? Maple♥poolMischief brewing 01:46, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah, OA was Bramble, and stripes needed to be tweaked. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 01:58, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

What exactly was kept from the old image....? Enlarge the highlight/lighter parts. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 02:14, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Colors, ear-pink, eyes, all the colors? even the stripes? I mean, the only thing i did was change his stripes....thats it....i swear....Maple♥poolMischief brewing 02:16, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 02:24, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I just noticed you have 4 chararts up. You can only have 3. You'll have to withdraw one. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 03:26, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Just withdrew Adderfang. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 03:33, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how this could've been tweaked if you redid the stripes and they don't even looks similar to the old image. Blur the "highlight" on the haunch. llwildheartl01:37 Wed Dec 14

Here is what i did: I earsed the highlights and shading, then color picked the stripes, erased the stripes, and then re-drew the stripes and re-did the shading and higlights, and blurred everything. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 01:57, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

NOTE
This was a TWEAK, this is NOT re-done, got it, if i see ONE more coment on how it looks re-done, you'll be ingored, got it? I'm SICK of peole saying i re-did it. I didn't I TWEAKED IT. End of story. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 02:03, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, Maple, calm down. It doesn't matter if you tweaked it or redid it, as it needed to be redone anyway. Round out and blur the "highlight" on the haunch. llwildheartl02:23 Wed Dec 14

Also fix the blurred lineart. llwildheartl02:44 Wed Dec 14

What blurred lineart? Maple♥poolMischief brewing 03:27, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Maple, just for future reference, that's kind of redoing and just color picking from the old image. Not that it matters in this case, like Wildy said, but technically, this is redone... Anyways, I see blurred lineart on the back and possibly the muzzle. Don't know if Wildy's talking about anywhere else. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 05:09, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

You captured the essence of what I was thinking, Paleh. You and me are brain-buddies. <3 Maple: the earpink also needs to be blurred. llwildheartl08:11 Wed Dec 14

Kay, give me a bit... my sis had a meltdown, and scared my bro, trying to clam him down....and yeah....Life is greeaat Maple♥poolMischief brewing 04:07, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Please dont comment to say you are going to reupload it, just when you actually do. It's a waste of space other wise. -ſceheartBlah blah 04:11, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry. Reuploaded. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 21:37, December 15, 2011 (UTC)

There's still a lot of blurred lineart and the earpink needs to be blurred more. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 01:02, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the highlights as well. oblivionAudience? 01:03, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 01:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Darken them more. It looks like the stripes aren't even there under the highlights. Blur the shading as well. oblivionAudience? 02:26, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

I feel rather bad for withdrawning this....but, my mom is getting married to a rich doctor, my stepdad! And I wanna help her plan the wedding, so....yeah, i can't juggle three images and help with the wedding....Maple♥poolMischief brewing 22:46, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (A) - DeclinedEdit

[[File:Tawnypelt.apprentice.png]] Ta-da! I'm extremely proud of this. Comments? Blossomtear Tearing the blossom 21:10, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear pink to give it a more realistic look. This is really good, Blossom!    ℓightning      21:12, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

So pretty! Can you make the black spot on the haunch just a tad bit bigger to match the warrior image? Mistypebble 21:15, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Wow! Could you make the earpink a little less purple? If you got it from the warrior image, then nevermind. Purplemoon We wish you a Perry Christmas... 21:24, December 9, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading. (Lovely Blossom!) Sweetflower00:43 Sat Dec 10

Her nose should be dark grey. :3 Sky..... Just...dust and echoes 09:18, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Thanks, everyone. :3 --Blossomtear Tearing the blossom 13:03, December 10, 2011 (UTC)

Define the shading even more please Iveh Yo! 00:28, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this, Blossomtear? -ScarletwindLisanna 00:14, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. -ſceheartBlah blah 23:33, December 17, 2011 (UTC)

Tawnypelt (A)~ declined Edit

[[File:Tawnypelt.apprentice.png]] Comments? -ſceheartBlah blah 01:22, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

You wrongfully declined Mudfur's apprentice just to place another one of yours up. This is over the limit.    ℓightning      01:24, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

We have a million chararts to do, more than five day is excesive. 5 days is more than enough, it should be declined. -ſceheartBlah blah 01:26, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

No. That's unfair to Snowdazzle. She gets one week, just like everyone else. I don't care how much work needs to be done. That's not fair, and you know it. Either follow the rules, or propose a change the proper way.    ℓightning      01:28, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Fine play leader Cloudy. Its not the first time its been done in less a week, but well do thinks your way. -ſceheartBlah blah 01:30, December 18, 2011 (UTC)


No, Iceheart. I don't care how much work we have to do, we can't throw every rule out to get it done faster. You're our leader, you can't just decide to ignore the rules. Shelly For a limited time only 01:31, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Besides, if it got apprvoed, it would mean less work anyway. Maple♥poolMischief brewing 01:34, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Don't be mad with me, Icy, but we need to follow the rules :C Just wait till we archive some of those CBA'd images, that's 12 hours from now. Iveh Yo! 01:36, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Dapplenose (A) ~ WithdrawnEdit

[[File:Dapplenose.apprentice.png]] Okay, you know me. I'm awful at spotting waste. xP I like this one! Comments? Grell No question at all! 21:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Haha, yep the waste. =P Anyway, make the earpink closest to us fill the entire ear then smudge the pelt into it. :3 Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 21:26, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, there's waste around the tail and near the <--- ear. Also it needs to be a tad lighter. They eyes look like the pelt blurred into it a little, and the <--- side of each eye isn't colored in at all. There's some faded lineart around the tail. Define the shading a lot. Sorry I'm finding so many problems! Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 21:29, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Oh my, there's also a lot of waste below the face and neck, around the paws, and under the front paw that is farthest from us.Featherwillow Hmmm... HOHOHO!!! ✤✤ 21:31, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Featherwillow, she said she saw the waste. >.> Ivyheart =P 22:37, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make some of the dapples a little bigger and define the shading a little. Besides the suggestions, this is very good, phenominal job! Iveh Yo! 23:31, December 16, 2011 (UTC)

Make the ear-pink bigger, and than smudge the pelt into the ear-pink. Sweetflower00:50 Sat Dec 17

I can't work on it now, probably not for a while. And I'm sorry there's so many things wrong with it.  :/ Grell No question at all! 13:52, December 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Are you withdrawing it, then...? llwildheartl21:07 Sat Dec 17

No. I'm re-doing it now. Grell No question at all! 23:17, December 17, 2011 (UTC) Shadewing

Well if you're not going to be working on it for a while, then it's just taking up space, and I'm going to consider it "withdrawn" but you can keep your reservation. llwildheartl04:40 Sun Dec 18

Archiving. llwildheartl04:42 Sun Dec 18

Birdpaw (A) ~ Declined Edit

[[File:Birdpaw.Apprentice.png]] Yeah, it's not that great, I know. Let me know right away if there's something up with it. ~Regifloat222Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 17:31, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

I removed the thumbnail for you. Redden the earpink, and define the shading. Ivyheart =P 17:32, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

She needs to have a gray/black nose. Maybe take the earpink from her kittypet charart. Mistypebble 17:33, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Also, smudge the earpink. Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 17:34, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-name this Birdpaw.apprentice.png. Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 17:35, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Add transparency LeafyAbsolute maniac,17:36,December 11,2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. The stupid blur tool is being a butt.could someone help me? And I don't know how to add transperency. ~Regifloat222Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 18:00, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

I made it transparent LeafyAbsolute maniac,18:08,December 11,2011 (UTC)

Ty. I just noticed, does she need a scar? ~Regifloat222Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 18:22, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'm guessing that she should have two apprentice images, one with it and one without. Mistypebble 19:14, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Would that mean that she needs an alt for that, like Brightheart with her injuries? ~Regifloat222Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 19:17, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

No she just gets one with a scar. Add the scar.-ſceheartBlah blah 19:34, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded. Added the scar. Looks good? Also, the blur tool hates me D;. ~Regifloat222Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 19:41, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

My eyes are betraying me today (Leafstorm XD) but is there shading on this image? Ivyheart =P 20:23, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt into the ear-pink. Sweetflower20:35 Sun Dec 11

Make the scar a little.. thinner. It looks fat right now. Purplemoon Three Advent candles lighted 20:41, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Add transparency again. Mistypebble 21:53, December 11, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Fixed the scar. Yes there's shading. No, it's not blurred. My blur tool won'te blur it. And Idk how to do transperency, first i've heard of it. ~Regifloat222Riverstar, Leader of the Thunder Snipes! 01:09, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Transparency is where you get rid of the white background. And define the shading. (or darken it) Mistypebble 01:41, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

It looks as though there's alot of extra space. Crop it. ^^ Sky☀Surfin' Santa 20:46, December 12, 2011 (UTC)

Rename this Birdpaw.apprentice.png. ♔ⓅⓐⓁⓔⒸⓛⒶⓦ♕ ☆StarClan be with you★ 01:14, December 13, 2011 (UTC)

Smudge the pelt inot the ear-pink. Sweetflower02:37 Tue Dec 13

Lighten the base colour, then darken the shading. I can barely even see the lineart. oblivionAudience? 00:28, December 14, 2011 (UTC)

Are you still working on this? oblivionAudience? 23:33, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work. -ScarletwindLisanna 02:49, December 19, 2011 (UTC)

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