I could add them in for you instead if you want. After all, you only took this on to do the shading. If not, could you make them a bit more like the stripes on her brother? Shelly For a limited time only 01:42, March 30, 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Snake (BC).rogue.png]] No! Don't look at my shame! D: comments?☾Mossnose☽Peeta's #1 Fangirl 20:45, April 8, 2012 (UTC) 16:44, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the shading lots. Fill in the rest of the ear with the earpink, and optional, but add depth to the legs (highlights, maybe). Are you a kit? If so this should be under evaluation. Keep trying, this is all right for a first attempt ^^Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 21:46, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
Lighten the shading on the tail a tad, fill the ear with earpink and blur it, and add color to the nose. ~Fallen 22:04, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded: I changed it to short haired and made his pelt color lighter. I think I forgot the color to the nose... I'll get it later. ☾Mossnose☽Peeta's #1 Fangirl 23:08, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
Could you lighten the base colour and make it short haired to match the other main images? Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 22:16, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
Add some more "highlights"/lighter parts, (you don't have to) on the face and tail. Just a preference, ignore this if you want. Dazzy 22:57, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
Define the light source, as it doesn't really make sence now. (Sorry if I'm wrong, and if this is sort of what Dazzle said :/) ~DJCandyFun~I do enjoy fun...8D03:16, 09, 04, 2012
Reuploaded. It was a little hard to get the collar, bu I got it. I colored in the nose too. :3. Hopefully this is more than 80%. ☾Mossnose☽Peeta's #1 Fangirl 00:33, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure this is 80% done. However it's fairly close, so you get a week to make it 80% complete, otherwise it'll be declined.
Ship it 19:04, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
Guys, I don't understand. I reuploaded it yesterday. Why aren't the changes showing? Maybe my kindle is screwed up. But the new one was on here yesterday, but when I checked the file page or whatever, it has his old rouge picture over the original one. I'm so confused. Anyway, my dads not letting me use the laptop, and I said on the vacation list I might be back on the weekend. Does that mean I cant become an apprentice? D: ☾Mossnose☽Peeta's #1 Fangirl 22:31, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
One of the dog teeth seems to be sticking out of his chin. Unless its supposed to be like that (which I doubt), please fix that. Also, there seems to be a black pixel right by that tooth near the bottom. BluestarLeaf flying in the wind 16:39, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
May be my computer, but shading seems kind of flat. Maybe looking at the apprentice tutorials may help, though shading placement is the artist's choice. Maybe tone down the highlights a tad. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 02:31, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
Also, the highlights seem a bit confined to that one space on the back. Blur them, maybe add a highlight to the chest and haunch to give it more depth. Smudge the pelt up into the earpink. Keep trying, I think you're getting the hang of this ^^ And there's two black pixels on the collar that I don't think are supposed to be there. Fill them with the color of the collar (orange). Add some depth to the eye, too :/ Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 02:33, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
There's waste on the ear. Also, on the bacl and tail, and I think the back front leg is missing lineart. Tone down the highlight on the haunch, or tone u the others to match it. When you reupload/redo an image, please tell us. It just helps us know when you've changed it. Keep trying. You'll get it sooner or later ;) Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 22:50, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but this is declined. You had a week to get the image up to 80%, and sadly, it's not. —jaycevoulez-vous.<19:44,4/15/2012>
[[File:Honeyfern.kit.alt.png]]Cam's tired : / and her pixlr's being a pain in the tail end, so her uploads will probably be messy
She was originally described as a pale bracken-colored tabby in Sunset, and a few times after, I believe : / so that would technically deserve an alt, yes? Comments will be appreciated c: Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 01:40, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
Pale bracken colored is basically pale brown, which is the same as her description. Cloudy agrees, though she sent me to do her work. :P Declined unless anyone else disagrees. Sorry Ivy.
Ship it 01:51, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
Hm... I'm not sure. Brown is brown, like in her charart, but there's a difference between brown and bracken. Honeyfern's charart is brown. I looked at Oakhearts alt warrior image and it was different from Honeyfern's color, and it said he was mistakenly decipted as bracken colored. I looked at both the images for a long time before I decided they weren't very close. Just my opinion : / Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 01:58, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
Hm. It also said her charart was light brown, not pale, and it looked more brown than tan (which bracken-ish cats color usually is) Tawnypelt's bracken alt and Oakheart's bracken alt look different from Honeyfern's kit image : / feel free to disagree, but this is my opinion on the subject Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 02:09, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
Doesn't matter if the two images aren't similar, the colors themselves are two close. You can make two colors very different if you want, but that doesn't mean they should get an alt. for instance you could make ginger very different from orange if you really wanted to. Everything has shades. But this is still a synonym for brown, and therefore, no alt.
Ship it 02:11, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
Oh and pale and light are the same thing. *didn't see that post until now*
Ship it 02:13, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the haunch and tail shading just a tad? :3 ☯Mistypebble☯ 14:46, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
This is great and all, but who says that was a mistake? It was never stated otherwise, she could very well be a dappled dark gray cat....
Ship it 23:21, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
That's what I was thinking, I think that since she was only mentioned once it would be an alt but I think that this should be the main apprentice image and the warrior should be changed. ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary23:27 Sun Mar 25
Paleclaw's right. We're already having a discussion about partial-description alts, and this would be partial. She already is gray, in this image, just mentioned with dapples. All cats have some kind of pelt pattern, for what I know, but it just may not be visible. Plus, dapples don't make much of a difference, sorry. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 23:34, March 25, 2012 (UTC)
Then how come cats like Lilystem get an alt. for being described as a tabby? I think this should stay. --Leafstrike-- 01:53, March 27, 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps Lilystem should be tweaked to a tabby then. Either way, I thought we decided something about what gets alts and what gets added? Didn't we decide that if it's completely plausible then it'd be added? I can't quite remember, but I thought that's what we worked out. Meaning this alt should be declined and all her images tweaked.
Ship it 00:02, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
Isn 't this sirt of assuming her description? We don't know for sure that she's actually a dappled cat, and it could very well be a mistake. But in any case, if this goes ahead, cats like Mudclaw would have to be tweaked too, and it seemd really unecessary. *Bad at making points* Skt Raxacoricofallapatorian 00:07, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
Skt's right. This is assuming descriptions, something we don't do here. If we don't assume with genders and eyelashes in the manga, then why are we assuming descriptions? I say we keep it, and if we find out later that she dappled, then we can delete this and tweak the others. It's not partial, honestly. We know she's gray. For all we know, the dappled coat could be an error. —jaycevoulez-vous.<> 06:28, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
I've decided to place this image on hold until a final decision can be made. This is not to be declined, approved or archived until said decision is reached. —jaycevoulez-vous.<> 07:05, March 28, 2012 (UTC)
-didn't notice Misty left a comment- Should I reupload or wait until we figure out what we're doing with her?
Reuploading. Cloudeh told me to start up the discussion so... I think this should stay an alt. It was the only time she was described with it, and she has never been described with dapples in the alligiances.
I think she meant start it on the talk page. XD But really, since when do we not add descriptions purely cause they were only mentioned once? If we did that, Spottedleaf wouldn't have half her description, Firestar wouldn't have a pale belly, Brindleface wouldn't be mottled, so and and so forth. We shouldn't assume it's wrong just cause it was only mentioned once.
Ship it 08:44, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
Upload it over the old image and match the desing with other images, you cant just change the patch desing. I dont understand why you choosed so hard cat to do. Leafy ♫Absolutemaniac♪, 14:30,April 9,2012 )UTC)
Trololol I was actually planning on doing this to save someone XP Define the tail shading. Although this does look over 80%... ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary14:57 Mon Apr 9
[[File:Duke.kittypet.png]] Woo 8D I know the earpink is weird, I'm fixing it in a moment...the collar, ears, and eyes are the exact same, so I'm not changing them. Comments? :3 MoonehGoodbye, everyone...
17:12, 04 11, 2012
The eyes look kinda pixily, make the eye gradient smooth Iveh Yo! 17:16, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
Re-uploaded. I fixed the tail stripe to make it flow with the pelt more. Skt, I can't, because I'd have to paint over or remove what's on the haunch now, remember how I blurred so it looked the same, and then it would curve...I tried, and it looked unnatural. Sorry Dx MoonehGoodbye, everyone...
12:00, 04 12, 2012
Psssh, no apologise, twas just a suggestion. ;3 Make the nose pink a little less neon, and define the earpink a smidge? Skt Here. Yes. Right here. 12:39, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Feathertail.apprentice.png]] She needed a plumy tail. 8D First tweak~ *is failed* Dazzy 23:39, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and the OA was Maplefern, with a tweak by Rainwhisper, a redo by Mounty, and another redo by Leaf-storm. Dazzy 00:57, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
Smooth out the lineart, make the "bristles" (don't really wanna use that word, but I can't think of anything better) smoother and more flowing (think Squirrelflight but smoother; or maybe like a very silky, fluffy fox tail), and round the tip and make it "arch" a bit. It kinda looks like her tail got very surprise/scared xD ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 01:01, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded. So, something like this? :3 Dazzy 09:53, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
Is it just me, or does the lineart on the tail look thicker than the rest of the image? If so, could you thin it out one pixle. BluestarLeaf flying in the wind 19:09, April 15, 2012 (UTC)
Could you make it match the warrior a bit better?
Ship it 14:10, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
Curve the tail a bit more to match the original apprentice blank and have most of the pluminess on the bottom of the tail instead of the top. I think this will help. Shelly For a limited time only 21:00, April 16, 2012 (UTC)
Withdrawing. I lost the old .psd and the new lineart I made won't open in art programs. Dazzy 07:36, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Minty.rogue.png]] Okay, I'm rusty at this, and fail at shading, and feel like I'm about to do somethinf wrong, I will add shading after I'm done testing with it, seeing which seems more normal, and yes there is shading on the tail, and yes, I tried to get as close to the original image as possible, and yes, I suck XD, please don't hurt me *hides* Because I'm sure I'm doing this wrong XD. I amYour worst nightmare 23:16, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
Define the shading more, make the ear pink less neon, and lighten/blur the highlights. Not bad ^^. Silverhmm 23:19, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
Lol what shading, the only shading on the charart is the tail XD, and by less neon you mean darken? And alright, going to blur the highlights now XD. I amYour worst nightmare 23:21, April 3, 2012 (UTC)
Alright, I'll have to redo the whole image then, because this was made on Pixlr X3, I'l have to do it after the weekend though, because I'm going to my trailer. --I amYour worst nightmare 23:49, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
Ugh, can someone help me with the shading? I'll do the rest x3 I seriously suck. I amYour worst nightmare 00:08, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
I think.... I think if you let someone take over or help you... you can't call the image yours anymore? You'll get it with practice... maybe look over the shading placement thingy in the apprentice tutorials. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 00:12, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
Hmmm... try redoing it, and maybe... the shading placement is your choice, but try to replica the highlight/shading placement on another cat. Blur the highlights, and define a light source. Maybe doing a quick check over the Apprentice Tutorials would help, even if you don't think so. Keep trying ^^ Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 21:21, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
The shading placements don't work for me, plus, Pixlr is weird, and I have no idea on why Gimp isn't liking me at the moment, and I was never good with shading, and I've been doing chararts for awhile (Not on this site, other wikis in general) shading is not, and probably never will be my strong suit X3. But fine, I'll try to redo it. I amYour worst nightmare 22:57, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
Actually, I think the shading looks fine the way it is, maybe I should brighten the highlights instead of stressing myself over shading, what do you guys think x3? I amYour worst nightmare 16:42, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
I think it looks fine, just smooth out the edges and blur it a bit more--—.nehadarling just hold on. 20:26, April 11, 2012 (UTC)Moonshine
The shoulder highlight seems to be in the wrong spot, I would move it a tad to the right. Also brighten it just a tad. ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary15:34 Thu Apr 12
I don't think the highlight on the end of th' tail is supposed to be there. It's not there on any of her other images. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 02:11, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
Back when I was still here, tail highlights were also supposed to be part of the image (Even though, that might have been at another wiki, but still, or someone told me to do that, I forget.) It's a habit, and habits are hard to get rid of. And Mountain, it used to be in the right spot, until I blurred the shading. I'll just brighten it, because it is in the right spot, just doesn't look like it I amYour worst nightmare 19:53, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Rogueshortmale2.png]] This is Sticks (rogue) charart BluSkye~The Only Girl in the world 16:11, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
-Waste so much waste.
This is nowhere close to 50% complete. Declining and if another lead agrees, it will be archived. Blue, you need to practice more and then re-post him. And in the future, he should be named File:Stick (Ro).rogue.png. oblivionAudience? 17:03, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with them. Maybe you should consider getting a mentor? --RavenBeeeeeees 19:39, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
Icewing (Ro) ~ Declined
[[File:Icewing.rogue.png]]'Teldy told me that she does get a rogue images, so here she is! Comments for improvement?—.nehadarling just hold on. 19:06, April 24, 2012 (UTC)Moonshine
Um, I don't know where Atelda's getting this information from, but Icewing most definitely does not get a rogue image. We've agreed that only the cats who have betrayed their Clan by going against it get one. Icewing was unaware of the intentions of the Dark Forest cats; she thought she was doing it for the good of her Clan. Doesn't sound like a rogue to me. Declining this and anyone who disagrees, feel free to speak up. Loonie 19:12, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
Agreed. Icewing was against the DF before the battle even began. She shouldn't get a rogue image. Only those cats that we know sided with the DF. Shelly For a limited time only 19:14, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
This is what she said Atelda:
Oh, wait, yes. Nevermind, I wasn't aware that we'd agree to that but then yes, Clan cats who went to the DFs get rogue chararts.--—.nehadarling just hold on. 20:19, April 24, 2012 (UTC)Moonshine
No, Icewing doesn't get one. She was being manipulated by the DF cats into thinking she was helping the Clans. The same could be said for Beetlewhisker and Ivypool. She doesn't get one. The rogue thing is for those who were actually part of the Dark Forest, like Snowtuft, Redwillow and Antpelt. —jaycevoulez-vous.<20:27,4/24/2012>
[[File:Moss (Lo).kittypet.png]] I couldn't tweak that. Heck, I couldn't even get the lineart on another layer without taking half the image with it. OA was Ashshadow. —jaycevoulez-vous.<23:44,4/22/2012>
Blur the highlights and define the earpink. ☯Mistypebble☯ 01:16, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
This was redone by me Skye, you know that right? I redid it about a month ago, it was just under the wrong file name. Silverhmm 10:49, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
Then explain to me why in the world the old file is still on the character page? No, I didn't know. Seems someone didn't upload under the correct file like they were supposed to. —jaycevoulez-vous.<14:33,4/23/2012>
I tried to make the file name the same one as the one on her character page, but it wouldn't let me. So then someone said they would fix it, and never did. Silverhmm 20:03, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
All you had to do was re-upload, Silver. It's not that hard, honestly. Added to the fact the image sat around for at least a month without anyone doing anything with it and you didn't even have the image on your user page.... <sigh> I'll be asking Scarlet what to do about this, since technically, you (or whoever took care of that image issue) didn't follow the proper instructions... —jaycevoulez-vous.<20:06,4/23/2012>
Withdrawing 'cause I'm not in the mood to fight over a silly pixel. Silver, just re-upload over this file. >.> —jaycevoulez-vous.<17:24,4/25/2012>
Hmm...not bad, apprentice. Darken the shading, define it and blur it, as it's a little blotchy. I'd say this is 80% done. Changing heading to "For Approval", and I'll make you an apprentice. —jaycevoulez-vous.<19:03,4/27/2012>
May I take over this image? ☯Stoneclaw☯ 00:33, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
You don't need to ask. Just go for it and remember to reserve it. xD —jaycevoulez-vous.<00:35,4/26/2012>
Okay, taking over. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 00:53, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to be a bother, but Stoneclaw's already doing Silverhawk, and Fallow reserved it first so... ignore me if I'm wrong but yeah... Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 04:44, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Silverhawk is an original so it doesn't count as a redo for a rogue, which you can only have one at a time, but Fallow did reserve it first. Sorry Stone :c ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary05:00 Thu Apr 26
[[File:Thornclaw.warrior.png]] Redone 'cause I hated it. And I'm actually quite happy about how he turned out w00t! Comments? ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary00:56 Sat Apr 28
Could you make him look less dappled? (sighs) I really likes his old images. I really love your style, Mounty, but... not every charart needs to be redone to look so hyper-detailed. This is nearly beyond the realm of possibility. I think you'd be fine with just going back to the old charart with a slight tweak to the stripes to suit your own preferences. I know you're the OA to the previous version of this image, but... Shelly For a limited time only 03:38, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
*sigh* I really liked it but whatever. I guess it didn't need it. I'll go revert it and take it off the list. ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary03:53 Sat Apr 28
There's a bit of orange waste around the shoulder. Get rid of that. ❄ Sunnyfrost ❄ 00:03, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
It might just be my computer but could you define the stripes on the legs furthest from us?
BerryGradients, gradients... 09:22, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I think you already have an original charart for approval (shredtail) so... Correct me if I'm wrong, but yeah. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 13:11, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
I think it may be my broswer but the earpink seems a little neon. Tone it down a bit. RowanOnly One Can Judge... 18:45, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
Ivy's right, Scarlet. Regardless of whether Shredtail's a rogue or not, it's still an original image. Either this or Shredtail will be declined; it's your choice. oblivionAudience? 00:34, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
-sigh- If she does, I don't know. It wasn't reserved for her. I thought she was taking a break anyways? I could withdraw it. MoonehGoodbye, everyone...
22:22, 04 17, 2012
Ha, I was planning to do it when I came back, but I'm not all that bothered. Have it if you want it. Skt Here. Yes. Right here. 22:56, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
Could you define the shading? Also, add a stripe running down the back, just like the tail has one, and (if you want), can you move the first part of the stripe under the chin up, an connect it to the eye? ☯Stoneclaw☯ 23:37, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
When was she described as this? (just asking) And if you want her to have a paler chest, extend it at a top more. ☯Mistypebble☯ 02:09, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
This is just an opinion, but even thought we've approved images with this kind of tabby style, it looks more like mottled fur effects to me. Though, it might help if the stripes all didn't point in the direction of her tail Iveh Yo! 15:34, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
Lighten the gray more, and there's waste in the triangle between her hindleg and front leg, on the herbs, and on her chest. Also, can you make the stripes curve with her body a bit more, and make the zigzag down the middle less triangular?
Re-uploaded. I can't change the stripes without remaking them...but I can try. :3 Also, I see the waste by the ears and tail. I'll clear it in the next reupload. MoonehGoodbye, everyone... 23:56, 04 26, 2012
[[File:Scourge.kit.png]] Redone because the shading and the paw was wrong (that's not why it was redone..x3) -gives thanks to my friend who watched and critiqued- ouo Comments? Twee♫ It's baaaackkk! ♫ 21:24, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
-Feels special- lolz x3 I sorta missed the bell adding part, so can you add a highlight/shine to it and move it two or three pixels up a bit? ^~^
D'aww... Cinder, this is awesome! White cats are hard, don't insult your art. Blur the shading more, and define the shading on the backs of his legs (if any) and preference but to give it a bit more realistic touch, smudge up where the black meets teh white and then blur. Nice work ^^ Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 03:08, April 19, 2012 (UTC)
It needs to match the other images, so please don't smudge the black. —jaycevoulez-vous.<03:53,4/20/2012>
Awww! This looks wonderful, Maybe make the scars and earpink a bit less neon. --RavenBeeeeeees 22:57, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
I'm so sorry for not re-uploading. I've just been really busy 'cause of school, trips and other stuff. I will re-upload tomorrow. Please don't decline this. --CinderReal or Not Real?
00:38, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
Also...I don't know, but could you possibly make the scars a bit thinner? Dazzy 12:23, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I've been working on this image for over a month now, and I'm getting no where. I know that someone better can fix this up and get it approved quickly so I am withdrawing this. Anyone with a free project may take over. --CinderReal or Not Real?
00:44, May 3, 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Buzzardstar.deputy.png]] Kay, I'm not feeling my best at the moment. Please tell me anything that's off, because I can barely tell for myself right now. I'd save it for later, but that list needs to be gotten through. Shelly For a limited time only 03:28, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
I think there is too little stripes on the haunch and near the chest area, since more are supposed to be overlapping the pale chest markings. ☯Mistypebble☯ 13:38, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Tawnyspots.warrior.png]] OA was Darkhallows. Redone to match the deputy and elder, I believe. Comments? This matches so bad ;.; Yes I know I forgot the tufted ears...I'll add them later. ene MoonehGoodbye, everyone... 21:11, 04 29, 2012
[[File:Birchfall.rogue.png]]Hope I got the image the right size this time xD Anyway, since we're adding rogue images for DFers, I chose Birchfall. I colorpicked the stripes and pelt color from his warrior, as well as the earpink and eye color. I tried to use the same kind of tabby stripes, but not too sure about how they turned out. Comments? Spark Grease is the word ~ ♥ 23:36, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
[shrugs] I was told that he gets a loner because Honeyleaf got one. o3o ☯Stoneclaw☯ 19:44, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
But he turned against his Clan... Even years after his death, he tormented Leafstar, and (forgets who it was) threw him off of her. He didn't seem to happy with Swallowflight, either. I dunno, I don't think he should get a rogue and a loner; it should be one or the other. But I'd like to hear what some others have to say. oblivionAudience? 19:54, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
At first I thought that the rogue was going to get removed, but yeah, I actually think he's a rogue. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 20:00, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
Good point... I completely forgot about that incident in SD. o.o —jaycevoulez-vous.<02:17,5/10/2012>
So I guess this is declined... I'm really sorry, Stoney, this is beautiful <3 oblivionAudience? 02:20, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Fallowtail.queen.png]]OA was Nightfall and it needed to be redone because it didn't really look light brown, and shading issues. Comments? :3 ☯Mistypebble☯ 21:37, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the belly shading a bit. Silverhmm 22:42, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
Misty, when Paleh nominated these images, she said she wanted to work on them... —jaycevoulez-vous.<23:11,5/9/2012>
Indeed I did. I had first dibs on this image, and it hasn't been anywhere near a week, so I had plenty of time to reserve it. And since I did call it, I believe this'll be declined.
Ship it 23:13, May 9, 2012 (UTC)
Yes, it will be. Guys, please check the archives first. x.x —jaycevoulez-vous.<23:17,5/9/2012>
[[File:Marshscar.deputy.png]]Okay I know this was origanally supposed to be a tweak, but in chat Cloudy said that if it was impossible to tweak it could be a redo, not sure if this is what she meant but this is how I did it and if you want me to just tweak it then I will. But the shading needed to be fixed, the scars needed to be redone, and the earpink didn't match. The OA was... Scarletwind I think. WildfireMistystar's Omen! 19:44, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Bluestar.queen.png]]Uhhh... I forgot...I hate solid colored cats... >.< OA was Mousetalon, with a redo by Ivystripe, and then another by Twee... ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 02:38, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
The base coat doesn't quite look the right color still....
Ship it 03:31, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
When I redid the leader, I took the color from her father, Stormtail, and I tinted the shading blue. That should help some :3 Iveh Yo! 03:50, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
Tone down the leg and back highlights a bit. And maybe the tail a little, too. (I think they're highlights.) ThistleOh,theimplications.♥♥♥ 13:02, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the shading a little bit. Dazzy 12:26, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Tone down the earpink and blur them higlights. x3 ☯Mistypebble☯ 21:24, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
There's a little waste below the stomach. Silverhmm 21:50, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the shading lots more. --Leafstrike-- 18:24, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
Okay... I'm gonna have a huge quitter moment but a) I hate this image, b) my blur tool won't blur the shading anymore, c) this'll take me much longer then the two week timespan d) I hate this image! So I'm withdrawing this. Anyone who wants this may have it. ScarletwindFor the Glory of Humanity 23:55, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded - Meh. Also I didn't use highlights on this (OwO) and I didn't really do anything with them, but if I still need to fix them please slap me in the face. x| ~DJCandyFun~I do enjoy fun...8D10:08, 08, 05, 2012
Blur the tail shading and define the tail shading along the lineart because its edging away when you blur it. Also, enlargement the ear pink a bit?
I'm sorry, DJ, but it's been over two weeks since you started this image. I'll have to decline it. —jaycevoulez-vous.<04:32,5/13/2012>
Sharpclaw (Alt D) ~ Declined
[[File:Sharpclaw.deputy.alt.png]]Not entirely sure if he should get this, but theres a pretty big difference between solid russet and russet tabby, so I thought I'd try. :P Comments? I'm back! Miss me? xD 12:02, May 12, 2012 (UTC)
This is an alt for the graphic novels right? He already got one for that. Sorry I'll have to decline this unless there was some other point in the books where he was described as solid. ʝΣηяѲ¢кTheAftermathIsSecondary15:32 Sat May 12
[[File:Stonepelt.warrior.png]] Changes aren't showing. This had shading issues. Latest OA was Flamingomom3. Honestly, I feel the whole thing needs to match the elder more. If a SW or two thinks so two, I'll redo it.Silverhmm 11:18, May 8, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry to go against what you said, DJ, but I really don't think this is quote 80% done...and in my honest opinion, it doesn't even seem 70% done... There's almost no shading (and you can't really tell it's shading...it doesn't seem like there's a light source), the highlights look like white blobs, and they really stand out, I don't quite know what should be done though... I think we should get the opinions of the other leads before this is changed to "For Approval".
I don't hate you, Duck. But, I'm just critiquing art. <shot> —jaycevoulez-vous.<21:02,5/16/2012>
I would like to withdrawl this, because I feel that a another person would be better at it, also I'd like to leave PCA, because I need to contribute to a few other wikis more, and I feel I'm better at other things, besides chararts.☛Ducksplash☚ 21:44, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
I'll take over, archive this, and remove you from PCA. Duck, that's very mature of you to to dedicate yourself to what you really want to do. I'm proud of you for making such a choice without a fuss. —jaycevoulez-vous.<21:47,5/16/2012>
Bluestar (Alt. W) ~ For Approval
[[File:Bluestar.warrior.alt.png]]She was decipted as a gray she cat with thin fur in Secrets of The Clans. Comments? Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 03:46, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
Make the ear pink more triangular and blur it a lot. Darken and define the shading as well. —jaycevoulez-vous.<03:47,4/20/2012>
You need to have a cite for this description in the trivia on Bluestar's page before you can make this. And there must be no question as to whether or not the cat in the image is Bluestar. In any case, if memory serves, most of the images in that book were grayscale anyway, and most didn't have captions explaining which cat was which. Declining unless you can provide the citation. Shelly For a limited time only 04:41, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but it wasn't a picture. Snowfur said something about her sister having thin gray fur in that story about Mosskit. Secrets of the clans, Page 77. No pictures, it specifically said she had thin gray fur. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 04:47, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
The cite was verified before she even had the image reserved. I checked myself. Changing heading back to "For Approval", since it was talking about Bluefur, and it had nothing to do with a picture. —jaycevoulez-vous.<14:07,4/20/2012>
Blur the earpink, and make it less orange/reddish. ☯Mistypebble☯ 19:59, April 20, 2012 (UTC)
I don't know if it's just me but it seems that where the shading meets the highlights it looks blotchy. Blur it a bit please, unless anyone disagrees. --CinderReal or Not Real?
02:03, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I think that we decided that Bluestar and all other bluish-gray cats wouldn't get alts. for being described as gray because blue is the scientific word for gray. Look at the talk page. BluestarLeaf flying in the wind 17:04, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Though it's looking like the plain gray alts will be declined, yes, it's not decided yet Bluestar.
Ship it 20:51, April 27, 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Tangle.png]]Here he is! I know there is waste. And, about the stripes, I wasn't sure how to do them .I blurred them and smudged them a bit. So, could somone help me if possible, Thanks!—.nehadarling just hold on. 21:56, May 10, 2012 (UTC)Moonshine
Rename this Tangle.rogue.png and make the background transparent. Blur the ear-pink, too. ___✫Leafy✫ 22:00, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
There's a lot of waste from the stripes. Select the transparent part on the lineart layer, then go to the stripes layer and hit delete. oblivionAudience? 22:01, May 10, 2012 (UTC)
Is it me, or are the stripes //above// the lineart? o.o —jaycevoulez-vous.<22:03,5/10/2012>
Sorry guys! I know it looks terrible. I will redo it. My mom shut down my computer this morning and I lost the .pxd file.--—.nehadarling just hold on. 22:06, May 10, 2012 (UTC)Moonshine
I'm sorry, but this isn't 80% done, I think. The stripes are above the lineart layer, and they don't match his other image. But, you get the benefit of the doubt since you've gotten the shading down pretty well. You have one week to get this up to 80%, or it will be declined. —jaycevoulez-vous.<22:14,5/10/2012>
I am, but there is a problem. My computer crashed yesterday and now I can't work with images. All I can do is edit. I don't know when it will be fixed, possibly tomorrow but I am not sure. Please don't decline this! I had no control over my computer crashing. I am really sorry.—.nehadarling just hold on. 18:38, May 15, 2012 (UTC)Moonshine
Sorry, Moon, but this is declined due to lack of work. Anyone with space may take over. —jaycevoulez-vous.<00:45,5/17/2012>
I think it's been over a week, so this can stay. Lighten the earpink a bit to make it look less hot pinkish, there's waste under his belly, and I see a slash on his chest and his front leg farthest away from us, is that supposed to be there? And tone down the highlights a tad. ☯Mistypebble☯ 15:42, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
Blur the stripes a lot. And it looks like they're on top of the highlights. Darken and define the shading as well. oblivionAudience? 19:00, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
Hmm. If you're using layers I would suggest putting the shading layer on top of the stripes layer. o3o RowanOnly One Can Judge...20:21, 23, 04, 2012 20:21, April 23, 2012 (UTC)
Reuploaded I know there's a lot of waste Dx please cdoment on something other than that, and I know the eyes and ears are missing too... I'll reupload soon this afternoon. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 13:12, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
It's supposed to be named like Dodge.rogue.png So, basically, get rid of the extra .png =3 ___✫Leafy✫ 13:34, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but those don't look like stripes....try looking at the tutorials for stripe ideas. —jaycevoulez-vous.<14:09,4/24/2012>
I know there is waste, and I specifically asked if you would not comment on that since I stated I already knew about it and would be cleaning it up. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 03:59, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but after discussing with another SM, we've agreed that this isn't 80% complete. You have a week to get this 80% done or it will be declined. Also, there's waste around the image, blurred lineart, and the stripes are triangle tabby stripes. Please fix that. ☯Stoneclaw☯ 00:38, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
Redone Been practicing "Mountain tabbies" on my parents' computer, so hopefully this'll at least look decent. I looked at a picture of a real cat when I made this. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 14:53, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
It looks mottled, please fix that. And I can't quite tell through the "mottles" but it doesn't look that much like a tabby right now.... it may after you get rid of them, I don't know.
Ship it 15:02, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
I'll change it if someone agrees with you, because it doesn't really look like mottles to me. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 19:31, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
The stripes don't, per se, but I think it's the grey underneath. He's just a brown tabby, so let's keep him that way, 'kay? There's also waste all around. oblivionAudience? 19:34, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry; 'reuploaded trying a new pattern since the last one didn't look much like stripes... I'll revert if you disagree but I think this one's better. Stormy I'm messing with you ♥ 12:59, May 4, 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry Ivy, but you've had to be asked if you're working on this way too many times. I believe we had a discussion before that if a user had to be asked if they were working on something too many times, it would be declined. SM's, second opinions before I decline?
Ship it 03:52, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
Go for it. It would have possibly gotten declined due to the month limit anyways. This is just taking up space, since it's not being worked on constantly. —jaycevoulez-vous.<03:54,5/17/2012>