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Yellowfang - Declined

[[File:Yellow.png]]I made a Yellowfang one: Mistystream 22:43, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


She's a medicine cat, and Charart doesn't have Medicine Cat Blanks yet. And did you use Grandient on the fur? 23:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


I moved the image over because it was going into the next section. We don't have a medicine cat blank.--DarkHallows Lair 07:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Charart Mistystream. Firstly, this is not going to be accepted as a medicine cat image because it is the warrior blank and we do not have a medicine cat blank yet. There are a few other problems with the actual image however: 1) The outline colour has been changed to pale grey where it really needs to stay black 2) The background is balck and needs to be transparent 3) The cat needs to be a single pelt colour with a lot of shading, highlighting and blending to give it a realistic look. The most common areas for shading are on the belly, head, legs, tail, chest and back. Hope this helps  Sandy Talk! 08:52, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

actually, it's me, Mistyfur. Yea, I know, It suckz. And I did use gradients. It is good if the cat is silver. Mistystream

Hi Mistyfur (sorry I didn't know it was you because you didn't sign with your siggie). It doesn't suck, it just needs some work to fit in with the goals the project. [You should have seen some of my first work...GB'll tell you how awful it was ;)] You just need to keep trying and wokring on all the constructive critisism. I would suggest firstly trying a character who is actually a warrior or maybe an apprentice or kit if you'd prefer because those are the ranks we have blanks for. Then find a programme you like working with and have a go at using shading to recreate the cat. Good luck  Sandy Talk! 12:17, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, but don't EVER mention GB to me!!!!!!!!!! DX!Mistystream

As you wish, I'm not getting involved in this one  Sandy Talk! 12:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Thnx. Can I help with another character? I want to try Hawkfrost... And, I don't think I joined, I was bored so I decided to do that.Mistystream

Of course you can do another character. You can start working on him now and as soon as this is approved/declined (or you could withdraw it yourself) then you can post a new character. Good Luck!  Sandy Talk! 16:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Why does the medicine cat one have to look different though? And wasn't she a warrior too?

The medicine cat has to look different because she is of a different rank and that should be recognised. I don't remember whether Yellowfang was once a warrior; my first instincts say yes but it may be my imagination. Can anyone confirm this with a reference??  Sandy Talk! 14:25, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Yellowfang was never warrior. She has been medicine cat, rogue, prisoner, and then medicine cat again. Medicine cat before the books...rogue during Into the Wild and then became prisoner of ThunderClan. Then became medicine cat near the end of that book which she later died at that status. Now Mistystream could you please remember to sign with the 4 tiles, and we didn't come up with this rule for the cats at a different status to be different, Gorse did. None of us can change that, and personally I like the idea. Because of Yellowfang being a medicine cat I say this should be declined, but I do not hold that status so I shall leave it to GB or Kitsu.-- ♪Shimmer 02:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


I am pretty sure that they said in the first book that 'Yellowfang had once been a warrior, which was unusual for a medicince cat.' That is not the exact wording, but it is something like it. Sandwich, can can you please sign with the time part? -- Dawnfeather  06:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


I agree with Dawnfeather. But around the muzzle it looks pretty cool.Sandwich989

Thanks, Sandwich! Lava

Okay. I found a reference for Yellowfang the warrior if you really want to colour her as a warrior. On page 110 of the UK version Greypaw says: "A bit. Apparently she was a warrior before she became a medicine cat, which is unusual."  Sandy Talk! 18:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Duh, Sandy. Lava

It has a black background. That needs to be fixed. Also, it looks to small. And Misty, I'm in charge of the project right now, so if you're even gonna consider getting this approved, you'll have to put up with me ;). GB57 15:35, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh-no! U! XD

Misty, don't host a private war with GB here, take his tips so you can make your picture better. And if you don't feel like working on it, you can always withdraw it. --Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I was ONLY joking! ;)

My mistake. ;) --Bramble My Realm 21:54, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on in about 2 weeks...  Sandy Talk! 09:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Declined; this hasn't been worked on since the image was first brought here, about 3 weeks ago. Misty, feel free to submit another character, but maybe one less controversial. --Bramble My Realm 14:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Aye-eye 'captain. *gigglz*Mistystream


Sandstorm- Declined

[[File:Sandstorm.png]]

This is my first attempt at CharArt so it's okay if you think it's terrible. I tried to create Sandstorm. Constructive criticism needed! -Sparrowwing talk 20:37, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


First off, she is too dark and has barely visible tabby markings, so you need to lighten her and add pale tabby markings. Second, the shding needs blending, and there needs to be more of it. Third, you need to fill in thje eye. (They're pale green, just to let you know) --MsT C 20:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


Stupid question: I use Gimp, how do you do the eyes? They are just black without an outline, so I don't see how to fill them in. -Sparrowwing talk 22:41, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


I see that the shading goes all the way around and that is unnecessary in my opinion. Try getting rid of some shading. Plus, the pink for the ear touches the outline of the ear, try making it smaller around the top. Minnowclaw 22:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


REUPLOADED Fixed color, tabby markings, and shading problems. Still don't know how to do the eyes, someone help! -Sparrowwing talk 23:04, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


You might want to zoom in first so you can see your work more clearly (check under 'View'); click on the pencil tool with a set color and adjust the size if need be and then just fill in the eye. You might want to blend the shading some more. Sf '95 00:42, May 14 2009 (UTC)


I still think its a little too bright and not pale like Sandstorm. The pink in the ear is still too big and should be brought down a bit so it doesn't go out to the end and touch the outline of the ear. Minnowclaw 01:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw


It needs shading, and the eyes need to be green. -- Dawnfeather  06:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


I do it like this-
File:Eyediagram.jpg
Each 'block' is a pixel. I hope this helps. The shading needs to be darker and it needs to be blended in more. I like the tabby markings. They aren't too pale, yet they are bright enough to be obviously tabby markings. The ear is too bright. -- Dawnfeather  09:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


REUPLOADED Fixed ear, eye color, and shading problems. -Sparrowwing talk 11:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


The shading under the chin is a bit harsh, and dark. Blend it, and the rest of the shading into the pelt more. I have been thinking about Sandstorms description a bit lately, and I know my earlier comments say differently , but I think that the tabby markings are too dark. By 'pale markings' i believe they mean 'ghost markings' where the markings are actually lighter than the base colour. Does that make any sense? I like the eyes though! :D -- Dawnfeather  12:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


Also, the outline is thin and blurred. -- Dawnfeather  12:50, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


REUPLOADED Fixed outline and shading problems. -Sparrowwing talk 22:23, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


The outline is still blurred along the back and chest...  Sandy Talk! 18:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


Don't know how to say this... I don't think i can "un-blur" it any more. I don't see how it's blurred... but I'll try. -Sparrowwing talk 11:14, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

What there saying is that the outline seems smeared. Look at the near top of the ear. And the pelt seems to...dark. --Warrior♥ 17:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

This is nice, except that the pelt looks rather smudgy, and the shading stands out to long on the neck. Blur the shading a bit more as well. --Bramble Bramble's Realm 01:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


Better try, but the markings are too visible and I think you put brown paint and blended it down for shading. Try using the burn or, in my program, "darken" tool to add shading or the dodge, or "lighten" tool, to add highlights if you want to add them. And I agre with Bramble on the pelt smudginess and the neck shading. --MallinoisHerding Talk 21:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


Sorry I have to sound harsh, but this needs better shading. I think this could really look good after you shade it correctly, and I think that you might get this accepted after you work ou the shading. --MallinoisHerding Talk 22:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


This hasn't been worked on in a while, and the shading is really bugging me... please feel free to resubmit after you've made changes. Declining. --Mallinois TalkContribs 20:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Reedwhisker-Withdrawn

[[File:Reedwhisker.png|Reedwhisker.png]]

My first try...--Warrior 00:48, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


First, you need to redo this because you need to use a lighter black for shading. Second, the ear pink isn't blended, and the eye has no life to it. --MTCE 01:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
OK, but when on go on GIMP, the smudge tool won't work..at all...Why?--Warrior 01:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


Mal, I think you mean; 'You need a lighter black so you can do shading.'. Sorry if I am overly fussy!

Look at my pixels of an eye in the Sandstorm section for how to do the eye. I had trouble with GIMP too, so I gave up and used www.pixlr.com instead. Works like a dream. Other than that, I agree with everything Mal said. -- Dawnfeather  07:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Can't help you with GIMP at all I'm afraid but take Dawnfeather's advice and use a different programme if it won't work - I don't use GIMP so am no use there. Choose a very dark grey, almost black for his pelt colour and use the darken tool to add shading in relevant places. Also, you're going to need to blend the ear in to make it look natural too  Sandy Talk! 11:03, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Uploaded! I used pixlr, and blended the ear. I used lighter black. I did put shading, it just hard to see ,and fixed the eye. How does it look?--Warrior 14:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Better but still needs work. The ear pink needs to be a darker pink (see the approved black cats for reference). Also, the shading is just a lack splodge...try blending it into the edge of the pelt [without blurring the outline] and maybe add highlights as well to make it more realistic.  Sandy Talk! 17:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Yay! I haven't died!!! Ok, he looks good, except the shading looks kinda... blotchy. Could you make it look more natural?

I re-did it completely, and added highlights. --Warrior 23:50, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Anything else I should fix?--Warrior 00:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks good! The only thing that catches my eye is that the ear looks too purple. Make it more of a pink and a bit less saturation, and I think that will do it! --Goldencloud 14:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

The ear does need to be more pink, and the shading needs to be slightly increased along the back and chest. Shading also needs to be added on the curve of the hind leg. The highlights also needs to be blended more into the pelt. --Bramble My Realm 17:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Fixed.--Warrior 18:49, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

The problem with the ear pink is that the pink chosen is way too bright... It's almost fluro purple! Can you make it a more...cat-like pink? (a more realistic colour)  Sandy Talk! 19:06, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Better?--Warrior 20:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Here, use this color: File:Pixel.png. Make the ear pink smaller and triangular shaped as well. No offense, right now it looks as if he has pale pink cotton candy sticking out of his ear. :) The highlights still need more blending; maybe move them closer to the edge of the pelt so they look less randomly placed. And then use this: 50px for reference to maybe make the eye look more alive. And I think you must have blurred the ear, because there is a large black cloud around it that wasn't there before. --Bramble My Realm 01:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to withdraw this for now. I don't have much time to work on this right now. --Warrior 12:47, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Jaypaw and Cinderfur-Declined

[[File:Wiki_jaypaw.png]][[File:Wiki_cinderfur.png]] I think that no one has made these character arts yet...I'm not sure, to tell you the truth. Smokeberry 21:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Project Character Art! One thing: 1.)THere is no medicine cat apprentice blank, so you will have to delete Jaypaw. Sorry....--Warrior 23:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


Actuaully, he's a medicine cat now since Leafpool leaft and GB said only one image at a time. Plus, Cinderfur was a deputy, and there's no deputy blank. Plus, the tabby stripe are tto wierd and unnatural. --Mallinois TalkContribs 00:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Woah woah woah whoa whoa whoa whoa...Leafpool left?Sandwich989 03:41, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


Yeah, apprantly. Can we please not go into much detail though because there is already a forum on it in chatterbox, and I am trying not to find any more spoilers. The only thing I will say is that most people think she is coming back. I agree with most of the above; Jaypaw is a Medicine cat apprentice/medicinecat/kit (we are doing them in all stages of life remember?), but other than that kit stage, you can't draw him. Cinderfur was a warrior once, but the colour is unnatural, as are the tabby stripes. -- Dawnfeather  06:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Firstly there is the issue about incorrect blanks here, but that's been mentioned so I'll pass over it. The shading on Jaypaw means that there is an unnatural blue line right around the outside of the image which shouldn't be there. Also, the colour of Cinderfur is too blue and it looks washed out. Both images need the ear pink put in and needs to be blended properly. The stripes are unnatural-looking, try looking at some of the approved tabbies for reference. One more thing: the shading needs to be more thorough and neat and needs to be blurred at the edges so it blends into the image.  Sandy Talk! 09:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Like everyone else has said the tabby markings are just unnatrual. Second, wasn't Jaypaw a warrior apprentice first since Brightheart was his mentor? I know its not like every cat, but they did treat him that way and he did sleep in the apprentice den. Also there is no pink for the ears.-- ♪Shimmer 16:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


No, Cinderfur was an elder, than a deputy. So neither of these are correct. Plus, the colors have a blueish tinge to them. --Mallinois TalkContribs 20:02, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, Cinderfur is a tom, not a she-cat. And I don't think he had long fur. --Bramble My Realm 21:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Oops! I meant Cinderpelt. Sorry! I didn't know about the rule on only submitting one at a time. 99.166.145.160 23:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

So this is supposed to be Jaypaw and Cinderpelt, yes? In that case the Cinderpelt one will have to be withdrawn because she was never a warrior.  Sandy Talk! 14:46, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

As we don't have medicine cat blanks yet, I think these will have to be declined. After Hawkfrost is approved feel free to submit more. --Bramble My Realm 16:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Goldenflower-Withdrawn

[[file:Goldenflower.elder.png]] I'm going to try Goldenflower as an elder.--Warrior 15:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I like the highlight and the colour is perfect but the shading needs to be slightly darker and needs to be added around the muzzle and between the front and back legs etc.  Sandy Talk! 16:40, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Re-uploaded! I know I have to fix that black stripe coming out from the back...I didn't notice it before. I added more shading.--Warrior 17:12, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Fixed the line.--Warrior 17:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

There's still a black smudgy line coming out of her back...  Sandy Talk! 18:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe make the ear pink a bit more pinkish, because I can barely see it with the shade of gold that you used. And Sandy, can't resist, do you know how funny that sentence sounds? But yes, there is still a line. --Bramble My Realm 19:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

hmm... see what you mean XD. I also think more shading is still needed, behind the highlight on the back and in the other usual places such as on the legs and tail.  Sandy Talk! 19:24, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

There is shading on the tail and behind the highlight, and I'll fix the line and the ear. --Warrior 19:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it! *says in Arwin-like voice* I finally got that line off.--Warrior 20:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I can just barely see the shading on the back, tail, and legs. You should add more shading like Sandy suggested. --Skyfeather '95 21:00, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

The front paws are smeared with some kind of light, chalky color. GB57 02:57, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Better now?--Warrior 15:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

It looks smudgy around the shading and highlights... --MUMBLE785 19:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Mumble's right; it's very smudgy and they aren't blended into the pelt properly  Sandy Talk! 19:53, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm gonna re-do this later. Sorry it's taking so long.--Warrior 18:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

The shading on the back is a little odd, becuase you have the pelt, then this lighter color then the shading. Can you tell me what it is? Minnowclaw 00:07, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

It's called a highlight, and I'm withdrawing this. I'm going on family vacation soon and don't have enough time to work on this.--Warrior 00:21, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Tigerpaw (SC) Declining

[[File:Tigerpaw (SC).PNG]]


I don't know if he's a tortoiseshell, dark brown tabby, or a golden brown tabby. So I combined all three. I don't like it though... --Mallinois Herding Talk 00:28, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


A dark brown tabby. -- Dawnfeather  05:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

But it said Tortoiseshell, didn't it? I would suggest doing it in order from when the first fur color was mentioned , to last. Like tortoiseshell fur, gold paws(It showed that in the book), and brown tabby underbelly, or patches. But I would personally go without the brown, it looks great though!Sandwich989 22:04, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I've looked everywhere in the books where Tigerpaw is mentioned and nowhere does it say he's tortoiseshell. He's a dark brown tabby tom, and his pelt might be slightly golden also. Add a little of Lionblaze's pelt color to the dark brown, but other than that keep his description as it is. --Bramble My Realm 01:38, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


Declining this one myself, since I cannot get a good realistic color for him. I may do him later, but I can't now. --Mallinois Herding Talk 21:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Flamepaw - Withdrawn

[[File:Flamepaw.png]]

Second kit of Tawnypelt - Flamepaw. Anything needed for improvement? --Bramble My Realm 20:51, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


I hate to say this because it's so beautiful, but we don't have medicine cat apprentice blanks... --Mallinois Herding Talk 22:04, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I've actually been thinking about that, and have been wanting to discuss it for a while. Do we really need med. cat apprentice blanks? Both warrior and med cat apprentices are classified as an apprentice: a cat working under another to learn its trade. Aren't both of them doing that? And they are all in the same section in the Allegiances, under the title 'Apprentices'. I really do think we shouldn't bother with medicine cat apprentice blanks, but if enough people are against this, then I will of course take this down and we'll hope for the blanks soon.

And Mallinois, thanks for pointing that out. :) I'd actually completely forgotten Flamepaw's mentor is Littlecloud. --Bramble My Realm 17:24, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


But what each cat does is entirely different. I still think that we need Med. cat blanks. -- Dawnfeather  07:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Bramble. But this should still be discussed and/or voted on. -Sparrowwing talk 11:16, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


I don' think we need med cat apprentice blanks, as they're just apprentices and don't have their own section in the allegiances. --Mallinois Herding Talk 16:34, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

I can add a topic in the Suggestions forum where we can discuss it and/or vote on it. I'll withdraw this for now, and then I'll see what decision we come to. --Bramble My Realm 19:08, 3 June 2009 (UTC)


Gorsepaw-Withdrawn

[[File:Gorsepaw.PNG]]

I tried Gorsepaw along with Lionblaze and I have Lionblaze approved, so I thought I'd put Gorsepaw back up. He's the way he was, so please comment. --Mallinois Herding Talk 14:51, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


Reuploaded with more shading. --Mallinois Herding Talk 14:57, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


You need to blend the shading and highlights into each other and the base colours a bit more, and maybe make the highlights a tiny bit subtler. I also think that you could darken up the shading on the white a little bit, as compared to the ginger, it is almost invisible. -- Dawnfeather  23:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


I want to withdraw him, as I messed him up with the blurtool trying to fix him. --Mallinois Herding Talk 12:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Bumblekit - Declined

[[File:Bumblekit.png]]

I've been wanting to do this lil guy for so long and now I've finally got the chance. There's only a few things I have to say. One, I'm going to make him have a transparent background later on. The second thing I would like to add is, give me feedback on his stripes. I know they are horizontal running across his back, but I can't just picture a cat with straight horizontal lines, so I gave them a little wave at the end. I thought he would have been perfect for a long haired base since Graystripe is after all, but I couldn't get the background to turn white without erasing the outline.-- ♪Shimmer 05:03, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

The stripes and shading on his right (our left) side are too long. You don't need more shading, but the outside edges should be a little bit darker. You might want to try adding a highlight too. -- Dawnfeather  05:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

He needs more shading around the head and the front legs. Also, some of the stripes, particularly on our right, are a little smudged where they've been flicked. I think you were right not to do them straight because a cat is not flat (!) but they shouldn't be smudged  Sandy Talk! 07:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Updated Here he is now. I added some highlight, added the extra shading that was needed, and made the lines darker on his right.-- ♪Shimmer 15:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

It's better but I don't like the highlights...it looks like he's bene playing in white paint. Perhaps get rid of them, or make them smaller and blend them in more  Sandy Talk! 15:55, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


I think there needs to be a highlight, but it needs to be smaller and blended! -- Dawnfeather  10:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


So far, adding highlights has ruined this kit and Eaglekit, so Shim, remove the highlights and I think it will look better. Kits can't handle much highlighting... --Mallinois TalkContribs 20:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)


I agree; I never put highlighting on kits, just some well-blended shading. :)  Sandy Talk! 20:04, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I really hated the highlights myself. Sorry its going to be a while until I can update this. I don't have any internet at home so I can't access the file and edit it. I'm using my dad's computer, but there's no way he's going to let me download GIMP. So...if this is taken down because of lack of work, I'll reupload it later.-- ♪Shimmer 18:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Declining due to lack of work for almost two weeks, but as you said Shimmer, you can reupload when you've had time to work on him :)  Sandy Talk! 17:58, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


Dappletail- Withdrawn By User

[[File:Dappletail.png]] My first attempt at a tortie. She has a white muzzle, because y'know... elder. I didn't add much white... it just didn't fit in. And not all torties have white (the closest my Lily has is a cream paw).-- Darkhallows  Lair 20:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I think you should add it. Can I show you? Lavastream, SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 21:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


I likie this, but i think you should make the paws tortie as well. -- Dawnfeather  00:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah the paws are white... but, it looks good. Lavastream, SunsetClan's Medicine Cat! 01:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that some of the ginger dots look unnatural. I know that she is dappled,but maybe make them all a bit bigger, and do the same sort of thing on the ginger with some black too. -- Dawnfeather  01:10, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I love the head, and the white paws look okay, perhaps you could add a tiny bit more white in another place but not too much, as you're right; not evrey tortie has a lot of white. I think more shading is also needed to make her seem more 3D.  Sandy Talk! 13:22, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Added more shading, a white chest, and did some other stuff.-- Darkhallows  Lair 19:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


The shading is too dark. On the ginger it loks like it is more black areas. -- Dawnfeather  02:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Played around again.  Darkhallows  Lair 08:27, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to withdraw this. I had things set out on different layers to make the shading easy and I lost it... so yeah.-- Darkhallows  Lair 02:55, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Rushtail - Withdrawn

[[File:Rushtail.elder.png]]

My first elder and my first attempt at using the new blanks. Please comment. I know it has flaws.  Sandy Talk! 14:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

This looks alright to me! I just suggest that you make the shading darker and thicker, and blend it out a bit more. --Goldencloud 00:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


I don't like the highlights, and the shading thins out on it's backside. Overall though, good job. I like the colour choice! -- Dawnfeather  00:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Updated: I'm not sure I like this better but I updated taking all your changes into account.  Sandy Talk! 18:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I hate this iamge. Withdrawing  Sandy Talk! 13:51, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Whitewing-Withdrawn

[[File:Whitewing7.png]]

Well I said that I needed to start on something easier to start on, so I did Whitewing. Please critic [but not harshly!:)]Sandwich989

I sorted the layout so this came under it's own section but the image is not showing up  Sandy dstar12|Talk!]] 20:00, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


Alright Sandwich, no more .xcf for you! XD It makes the image into a white box. Use .png or.gif instead. --MsT C 20:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


I know I know. XD When I was typing in png my dad told me to get off because I was in trouble, and I thought that it didn't save, but it did I guess. So what do you think? I started this because Lionheart was to hard for me.Sandwich989


I need some help with pixel size on GIMP.Sandwich989


Remember to click on the blank before using it, an I suggest just copying/pasting it, as I do it. Then use the darken tool to shade. I think you have a good second attempt, thouggh. You're just starting out. Plus, this can't be accepted until you get the correct blank size. --MallinoisHerding Talk 12:27, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


Ok ill try to find the correct size.Sandwich989


Here's a blank for you, Sandwich. Color this one in, and you'll get the full size blank. --MallinoisHerding Talk 01:11, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I hadn't edited this for a while (I have ALOT of Finals due soon!). But i managed to do this in my spare time.Sandwich989 02:40, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I say there should be more shading. Many pictures now are bugging me with putting little shading on the backs. No one does it anymore....Look at some of the other accepted white cats for reference.-- ♪Shimmer 03:38, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


The shading needs to be blended more, and you could probably use a little bit more of it too. The ears look too fluro, and there is something wrong with the eyes. -- Dawnfeather  05:28, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Shading! More is needed on the back (as Shimmer said), head, muzzle, front legs, tail (a little). Also, tone down the ear colour a little and try adding a blacka nd white pixel in the eyes to amke them look...alive. [Someone posted a good example of a close up of an eye on the 'Sandstorm-For Approval' section] Just because she is white doesn't mean the colour has to be flat - take a look at the approved white cats for examples. The shading will help  Sandy Talk! 07:22, 22 May 2009 (UTC)


Just to let everyone know I am doing this still im just trying to do it on photoshop.Sandwich989 22:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok i uploaded a new one. Maybe the eye can have more realistic stuff but |_|. If anyone can help me on shading it will be appreciated.Sandwich989 03:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


Instead of smuding, either use the burn tool, or get a few different shades of darker colours, in order from the outside to the inside for whatever area you want the chading to take up, and then blur them (With the blur tool, not the smudge tool) together. If that made any sense! -- Dawnfeather  07:43, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Anyone using gimp: can you tell me the shading you use? like the percent thing, the color. All the things you use. Thanks. Sandwich989 04:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


I don't use GIMP, but I can recommend Pixlr. I just get a few darker colours and then blend them into the pelt gradually becoming lighter. Either that or use the burn/dodge tools -- Dawnfeather  04:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Is there anything else I can improve? Even thoguh its probably not the correct way, I myself really like the shading (Im not trying to be conceded or whatever its called)Sandwich989 01:46, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

(conceited) I'm sorry to tell you this but this is highly unlikely to be approved in its current state as it just isn't up to the standard of teh other images we're currently approving. The shading is okay but it needs to be blended into the pelt to give more natural transitions between colours. The colour looks very flat currently. Also, the ear pink needs to be blended.  Sandy Talk! 17:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

I try to use the blend tool but its wierd and confusing to me. Once someone tells me how to blend on GIMP it will be awesome I promise!Sandwich989 22:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


Just play with the blur tool, with different levels, until it looks right. That's what I do.-- Darkhallows  Lair 08:21, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok I uploaded the new one. The chest shading I think looks good kind of, but something bugs me about the back shading, maybe you guuys can tell me?Sandwich989 21:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)



The outline is now blurred, and you can still see the smudge lines. I would suggestrestarting and copying the eye onto a new blank. Now I think of it, it should probably be long haired for whitewing, although that's just how I imagine her, because it is never really specified. That is your choice. You will need to re-do the the ear anyway, as it is an unnatural colour. It will need to be blurred eventually, but don't do it right away as it is easier to change when it isn't blurred. Then instead of the smudge tool, use the burn tool, and blur it into the rest of the pelt as you go, without blurring the outline. -- Dawnfeather  05:55, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


Im sorry, but im gonna withdraw it. Im not experienced enough to do a white cat. Ill stick to plain dark cats (If thats easy).Sandwich989 21:06, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Mousefur elder - Declined

[[File:Random.png]] I'm not that good at art, but then I tried Pixlr and I think I did a good job. Please give me any little detail I can improve! Minnowclaw 23:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Needs a lot more shading and blending.--Warrior 00:19, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

upoload 2: Better? upload3:Now what do you think, don't hold backk! Minnowclaw 14:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

sorry, but not really. You needs heaps more. -- Dawnfeather  06:06, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

You need to put shading on the chest, muzzle, tail, back, legs and head. It needs to be blended well into the pelt without blurring the lineart. Good luck  Sandy Talk! 09:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll get on it as soon as I can.216.217.47.66 14:02, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Pretty good! I was hoping to make a charrie art for Mousefur, but you beat me to it. :/ But isn't she a tabby? Smokeberry 23:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

No, she is just a "dusky-brown she-cat" and the picture approved isn't a tabby. Please! It can't be perfect, what can I improve on?Minnowclaw 23:57, 3 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Hmmm, add shading on the curve of her hind leg, her forehead, and her foreleg. Also blur the shading you have, especially on the belly area. The ear pink needs to be more pink, as it looks violet to me at the moment. And, as Sandy said, take care not to blend the lineart. Other than those things, this is a great first image. :) --Bramble My Realm 02:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

You need to work on the shading and ear pink as Bramble said. This hasn't been worked on since the 3rd which is a week. Please work on this image else it will have to be declined.  Sandy Talk! 11:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work for a week; feel free to resubmit with changes, Minnowclaw. --Bramble My Realm 15:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Icepaw - Declined

[[File:Icpe.gif]] What do you think? Minnowclaw 00:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)Minnowclaw

Add more extended shading on the spots you have already shaded, as well as adding shading on the forelegs. Blend thoroughly, and add ear pink. --Bramble My Realm 02:15, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


Lots better than the one I had a go at last night. White cats can't be done the way i'm doing mine, at least in the apprentice blanks. I like it, but i think that you should add some more shading. Brilliant! -- Dawnfeather  05:21, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

She needs a lot more shading and the ear pink needs to be addes. Please make sure all this is fully blended :)  Sandy Talk! 18:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


Add shading on legs and blend everything like Sandy said. Try adding some color to it a bit. White cats are hard to do; I tried to make Icepaw awhile ago but it turned out..."not good". xD--Warrior♥Warrior's Palace 16:56, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

This hasn't been worked on for almost a week. Please work on your image Minnowclaw or it'll have to be declined  Sandy Talk! 09:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Declined due to lack of work; again, feel free to resubmit soon. --Bramble My Realm 15:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Silverstream-Withdrawn

[[File:Silverstream.PNG]]

I lways though her story was tragic, so I mde her. She's my first textured cat. --Mallinois Herding Talk 12:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


I can see what you're trying to do here, but to achieve it, you need a bit darker shaind on the front, and the back has to bit a bit lighter. Also, try and bring the highlight down onto the shoulder and hind leg a bit more. -- Dawnfeather  13:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, the ear colour is unnatural, the eye could be a bit lighter, and the tabby stripes are few and blended into the pelt too much. Sorry that i'm being so harsh! -- Dawnfeather  13:30, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought Silverstream was... silver? India, Here I Come! 19:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)


Oh yeah, and haven't Silver tabbies got darkish stripes? -- Dawnfeather  02:57, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

The tabby stripe on her flank near the base of her tail is at a strange angle...  Sandy Talk! 13:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


Reuploaded with new markings and more highlight, yet the changes don't show... --Mallinois Herding Talk 13:53, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a smudgy blur outside the lineart on the tail  Sandy Talk! 16:04, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


Fixed. --Mallinois Herding Talk 17:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


Silver tabbies usually have a silver body with dark stripes. But I do really love the texture. Nice job Mal.-- Darkhallows  Lair 19:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

The ear pink is a strange shape and needs to be more trianglular and blended into the pelt. Also... she is a tabby but she only has about five tabby stripes; I think she needs some more stripes on her head, legs etc and I think that they do need to be darker to make it realistic.  Sandy Talk! 14:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks good, but it looks like there's to much ear pink; the pink also seems a bit too bright. The tail is also blurred.=)--Warrior♥Warrior's Palace 17:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

It still seems like she could use more tabby markings, not just on her back. And like Sandy said, maybe make them darker. Skyfeather '95 00:35, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


I really don't want to work on her anymore... --Mallinois Herding Talk 00:45, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

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